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Old 09-07-2021, 05:26 AM   #15
Sumac
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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB View Post
Agreed. Which meant they basically had none. An experimental Castlevania game that didn't take off. One Mario game. 1.5 Zelda games. No Metroid games. A Goldeneye game that keeps getting remade. No real staying power at all within its own life.

I did bet on Nintendo with the N64 back in the day and this made me unpopular with friends in that way (in the same way I held onto my Sega Master System till the end while everyone was touting their NESes). In the end, they were right. Which isn't to say there aren't a couple of gems on N64... there are.
There were also Banjo-Kazooie games and Donkey Kong 64.
In general, N64 library was pretty decent - few games were even revolutionary, but mostly this console was holding up due to the Nintendo and Rare output, with little to no help from other developers.

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So it's not like Nintendo were the only ones guilty of it. I mean, if you look at some of the contemporary reviews for Street Fighter III when it came out, a ton of critics were like "2D sprites? Really? Didn't Capcom get the memo that we're into polygons now? What a wasted opportunity this game is, it's outdated." And then they got a polygon-based Street Fighter game with EX and nobody liked it. Go figure.
I think Street Fighter EX was released a bit before Street Fighter 3 and it was basically 2D fighting game with 3D graphics. Even in a side series Capcom was not brave enough to commit to 3D gameplay.

I think, this is what might have killed SFEX - it was basically regular Street Fighter, but in 3D, with little to no ideas of its own and it was worse looking to boot.

And Street Fighter 3 was a critical failure, which nearly killed the whole series. Though it was only part of the much bigger failure called CPS3 - Capcom's brand new hardware platform for 2D games only. It was such a failure that only six games have been released for it. Though, you may say only three games were really released, since out of those six games two were different revisions of JoJo fighting game and three - were revisions of Street Fighter 3.

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Remove FF7 and MGS - two games a LOT of people bought a PS1 just to play those games on - the whole thing gets a lot murkier, and remove the sales those games pulled in and Sony's dominance of that generation isn't so clear-cut anymore.
I doubt it - FF7 and MGS1 were juggernauts, but there were plenty of other good games on a system - Tomb Raider, Crash Bandicoot series, Tekken series (especially Tekken 3), Symphony of the Night, Chrono Cross, Tony Hawk series, Spyro series and, of course, Resident Evil and various racing games.

Tekken 3 was one of the best selling fighting games ever made, so I'd say PS1 dominance was ensured, even, if say, new Final Fantasy was somehow released on N64.

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