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*VaughnMichael* · 08-15-2006, 01:18 AM

It's a good Theory and all and I'm not going to dismiss it one bit.
But I think there are allot of factors that didn't help the new show out very much.
1). Allot of TMNT fans are those of the 80's Cartoon and allot really have no idea of the Mirage comics unless they happen to be lucky enough to have someone show them the comics at a young age much like my uncle did.
Or they come across them from word of mouth or the Internet which has helped with allot these days.
2.) I think also with a lack of the characters from the old cartoon people were very disappointed and let down. Many people don't like change as we all very well can see with The New Fast Forward, Next Mutation, Images TMNT, As well as with the horrid new toy line which now seems to be finally getting back to it's roots with help from Michael Dooney. I mean though we still to this very day see people come up on message boards besides this one complaining about a non human Shredder which we are finally getting, No Krang which we sort of had with Ch'rell, No Bebop & Rocksteady, & no Chanel 6. I know allot of people like the darker side of TMNT but allot of kids grew up with that show and loved it so I can see where those people are coming from. Me I just about like any TMNT that has been thrown at me that's why I'm still here.
3.) The toy line has been lackluster from day 1. It seems every toy company has evolved leaps and bounds above their past but it seems Playmates has DE-evolved bellow the standards of even the toys they made in the 80's.
There is a lack of cool characters to grab kids attention. I mean hell they had the right thing going on in the 80's kids haven't changed much sure they play with video games and all but they still like toys but they like toys who look cool. Not 50 different turtles kids even when I was little complained about that. We would much rather have a few turtles come out every once in a while to go along with the comics or show and have tuns of bad guys and their friends come out in plastic form. It's a well known fact kids like crazy looking Monsters & Creatures.
4.) Not to rag on the 2003-pre fast forward but come on allot of those episodes even if cannon can be very boring to kids. The problem was the show was really marketed towards the wrong audience and I think that stems down from the top starting with Peter Liard if he was just out to make money and bring the turtles back he should have either taken two routes One take the safe route and make a kids show or two make a teen/adult Mirage or Archie based show. Or Hell do two different ones.
5.) My last reason for the lack of sales would have to go a bit far out and say it would be from the lack of the Turtles Comic Book presence on shelves or it being known to most of the public in general. Allot of things factor into this many people do not like Jim Lawsons Bare Bones art style. The way the long drawn out story's are going and how long they are all taking to come to a close if ever. The fact that there is no Archie like comic book being based on the new show doesn't help much either to spark the interest of young kids who want to get into TMNT comic books. To be honest Archie is what really got me into TMNT comics and then Mirage.
So those are My Top 5 reasons as to why the New Introduction of TMNT didn't do so well I hope you enjoyed it!

08-15-2006, 01:18 AM	#2
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	It's a good Theory and all and I'm not going to dismiss it one bit. But I think there are allot of factors that didn't help the new show out very much. 1). Allot of TMNT fans are those of the 80's Cartoon and allot really have no idea of the Mirage comics unless they happen to be lucky enough to have someone show them the comics at a young age much like my uncle did. Or they come across them from word of mouth or the Internet which has helped with allot these days. 2.) I think also with a lack of the characters from the old cartoon people were very disappointed and let down. Many people don't like change as we all very well can see with The New Fast Forward, Next Mutation, Images TMNT, As well as with the horrid new toy line which now seems to be finally getting back to it's roots with help from Michael Dooney. I mean though we still to this very day see people come up on message boards besides this one complaining about a non human Shredder which we are finally getting, No Krang which we sort of had with Ch'rell, No Bebop & Rocksteady, & no Chanel 6. I know allot of people like the darker side of TMNT but allot of kids grew up with that show and loved it so I can see where those people are coming from. Me I just about like any TMNT that has been thrown at me that's why I'm still here. 3.) The toy line has been lackluster from day 1. It seems every toy company has evolved leaps and bounds above their past but it seems Playmates has DE-evolved bellow the standards of even the toys they made in the 80's. There is a lack of cool characters to grab kids attention. I mean hell they had the right thing going on in the 80's kids haven't changed much sure they play with video games and all but they still like toys but they like toys who look cool. Not 50 different turtles kids even when I was little complained about that. We would much rather have a few turtles come out every once in a while to go along with the comics or show and have tuns of bad guys and their friends come out in plastic form. It's a well known fact kids like crazy looking Monsters & Creatures. 4.) Not to rag on the 2003-pre fast forward but come on allot of those episodes even if cannon can be very boring to kids. The problem was the show was really marketed towards the wrong audience and I think that stems down from the top starting with Peter Liard if he was just out to make money and bring the turtles back he should have either taken two routes One take the safe route and make a kids show or two make a teen/adult Mirage or Archie based show. Or Hell do two different ones. 5.) My last reason for the lack of sales would have to go a bit far out and say it would be from the lack of the Turtles Comic Book presence on shelves or it being known to most of the public in general. Allot of things factor into this many people do not like Jim Lawsons Bare Bones art style. The way the long drawn out story's are going and how long they are all taking to come to a close if ever. The fact that there is no Archie like comic book being based on the new show doesn't help much either to spark the interest of young kids who want to get into TMNT comic books. To be honest Archie is what really got me into TMNT comics and then Mirage. So those are My Top 5 reasons as to why the New Introduction of TMNT didn't do so well I hope you enjoyed it!