ok you know what triplexxx, I think in some instances you are being a little nit-picky but you do touch upon some very good points about Splinter. He does seem to have his faults and his actions can seem questionable to say the very least. In your post you touch upon three things about Splinter that I think are valid points that suggest some selfish or not quite so noble behavior on Splinter's part.
And they are Splinter acts as both father and sensie to the turtles but some times the role of sensie over shadows the father role, to a point that makes him take unfair risks with his sons lives. And you are right I think we as fans have the tendasay to over look Splinter's actions at times because he is such a nice rat, but there are times when I Splinter gets more absorbed with being the sensei than being the father. And I'm not singling out the new toon Splinter, it shows in the most mediums of his character.
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Originally Posted by triplexxx
Well, maybe there is something else. If I remember the original comic book storyline correctly, the primary reason Master Splinter began training his sons in the first place was so one day they could avenge his master; yet in the new toon, Splinter clearly tells his sons in the flashbacks of them as kids that he never wants them "going topside", and when they're teenagers he still discourages it. Now I believe when a family wants to train their children at an extremely early age (in martial arts, to be a bodybuilder, etc.), they most definitely need some outrageously provacative type of motivation (and to do it simply to pass on a family tradition is not enough). When Splinter said in "Shredder strikes part 1" that he hoped the day his sons learned who the Shredder is would never come, I honestly didn't believe he was telling the whole truth. Now while I'm sure Master Splinter's intentions for his sons' lives are good, I believe his motives are somewhat foul.
When I said Splinter was "wrapped up in himself" I was thinking that maybe he was a little too concerned with his own life problems and not so much concerned with those of other innocent people. For instance, whenever a situation came up on the surface which involved Shredder, this was the only time I remember Splinter encouraging his sons to go topside and fight, he didn't at first but later on he did.
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You have some good points here in this post. Splinters actions toward his sons are bit contradictive. He trained them to fight so that they could be ninjas and know the art of invisabilty so they can't be spotted easily becasue they are freaks of nature. So him teaching them how to be ninjas could be excused by his desire to teach them to be able to move around undectected by the general public so they do not get kidnapped by sciencetists and dissected. But then why did he teach them such advanced forms of nintisu? He could very well have taught them some moves in order to protect them selves if they get discoved, but lets face it, be brought them up like warriors and to act as warriors.
Lets face it, its ommitted in the new that he wanted brought them up to avenge yoshi aganist Shredder, but even though Splinter in the new
says he didn't want them to ever meet Shredder, itsw clear that he trained them for the very purpose of vengence. there is no getting around that. So Splinter's attentions toweard the turtles are a little questionable.