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Old 03-20-2011, 10:50 AM   #39
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Originally Posted by Abnormal Freak View Post

I can understand preferring a dub to a sub (kinda, I guess), but to call me and others stupid just because we like subs more? Really, now. For me, I prefer subs automatically based on them being the original language. Original dialog, original voice acting, and what the lip movements were animated around. A dub, to me, is bastardized just because of the changes necessary to create proper lip syncing, and the added problem of putting voices to animation, rather than animating to the voice actors' performances. (Not all cartoons—Japanese or otherwise—are voiced first, but a lot, probably most, are.)
It is pretty stupid to prefer something, regardless of quality, just because it's not the original or has been changed. This is called a blind bias, and is a logical fallacy. Now I personally would not say you are stupid. I'd say the idea is.

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That, and I've never heard a dub I like more than the sub. The Japanese put a lot of emotion into their voice acting that's rather over-the-top, and I like that excessive emoting; it fits the stylized animation and concepts. Most US voice actors, however, sound pretty drab and with almost no vocal range whatsoever. If you'd rather listen to Steven Blum play the same monotonous voice in every anime and video game ever, fine; but I'll taking emoting and the "excited when necessary, including in his voice" Spike Spiegel over that any day.
This shows that you know absolutely nothing about acting or voice acting. At all. American or Japanese. Especially Blum... his voice is far from monotone, and he has a wide vocal range (compare his Guilmon to his Spiegel, or heck... I didn't even know he was Taskmaster in MVC3 until I looked it up, because that voice is so different from his Wolverine in the same game). When you have an actor with a wide range of vocal differences, but seems to use the same or similar ones in different projects, it's because that is what the director feels fits the character. But that happens even in Japan, quite often. Look at the late Daisuke Gouri... he used the exact same, distinctive voice in EVERYTHING. Yet he was one of the most popular voice actors because his one voice was spectacular. Case in point, Kouichi Yamadera (Spike's Japanese actor) does have quite a few different voices he uses, but there is one, his Daigo/M. Bison voice, that is used most often.

And I know, you're going to be like "well, that's just your opinion, man." That's just it. I don't understand how acting is one of the few vocations where there's no general baseline of how someone is good at their job or not. True, you can like something regardless of quality. I like the acting in Symphony of the Night, although I admit it's terrible. I like Next Mutation even though I know it's s**t. I like Shaq Fu. But with something like acting, people will argue whether it's good. The likes of David Caruso and Sean Penn make millions from delivering their dialogue with all the chops of a board, because there are people that insist otherwise. Now, if I half-assed my job, there'd not be a soul that would save me from being canned. If a construction worker botched several projects, do you think he'd still be employed? In either case, nobody would step in and say that those responsible for terminating employment are wrong in their decision. But if an actor's lack of skill is a factor in him or her being fired from a production, there will always be someone who insists that his or her skill is adequate.

EDIT: Sorry. Unnecessary rant. Art is in the eye of the beholder and all that jazz. Disregard.
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