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Old 03-08-2021, 07:04 AM   #272
neatoman
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I pretty much only drink during the holidays and not to excess. I have never smoked either. I think the big turn-off (aside from bad taste and smell) is how I saw the effects in other people. Something about seeing people constantly run off to inhale smoke, long lines to liquor stores, unecessary crakniness, incoherent mumbling and just the high cost in general made it seem pointless to me.
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