New Ep Discussion: "CITY AT WAR"- Updated Again!!!

[Brinatello]

Originally Posted by Relay

My only complaint (this week it's only one for a change) is when Donny looks at the downed power lines and says he has an idea. Yeah, that's brilliant! Stand a foot away from a puddle of water, hold some live power lines with your bare hands, and then toss the lines in the water with the giant robot. Let it never be said that this show doesn't teach a younger generation a thing or two about electricity and safety. Where is Louie the Lightening Bug when you need him???

This caught my eye earlier, but I didn't get the chance to respond. Yeah, I know what you mean. Sure, his idea worked to destroy the robot, but it was also a terrible risk of getting killed! Thing is, I don't recall the TMNT ever talking to an audience like the old show used to do. Like they'd say, "We're professionals, don't try this at home!" It would have been better if Leo stepped in and started screaming at him. Hey, he was arguing so much with Raph, it would have been great. He could have said, "Don, are you crazy?! Get away from there, that's dangerous!" That could have been a hint to the kiddies that water and electricity don't mix!

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Brinatello

This caught my eye earlier, but I didn't get the chance to respond. Yeah, I know what you mean. Sure, his idea worked to destroy the robot, but it was also a terrible risk of getting killed! Thing is, I don't recall the TMNT ever talking to an audience like the old show used to do. Like they'd say, "We're professionals, don't try this at home!" It would have been better if Leo stepped in and started screaming at him. Hey, he was arguing so much with Raph, it would have been great. He could have said, "Don, are you crazy?! Get away from there, that's dangerous!" That could have been a hint to the kiddies that water and electricity don't mix!

That's very true...

[J Legault]

There's two things I notice: I notice April is wearing her short purple shirt again. Which she hasn't worn since "Unconvencing Turtletitan"

And leo saved a passenger on the bus which looked like the same guy who was nearly ranned over by a bus from "Unconvencing TurtleTitan". it looked like he got saved by a Turtle twice

[ABeraserfiend]

Originally Posted by jestergoblin

Was Raph not listening to Leo or was Leo not listening to Raph?

Heh. Both, I'd say. I could swear Leo was losing his voice toward the end, poor chap.

Though it also looked like Raph didn't really wanna make good on his threat to leave everybody...hard to tell if he was hesitating at the door right before the bomb went off, or if he sensed something was, well, afoot.

[Buslady]

Originally Posted by ABeraserfiend

Heh. Both, I'd say. I could swear Leo was losing his voice toward the end, poor chap.

Though it also looked like Raph didn't really wanna make good on his threat to leave everybody...hard to tell if he was hesitating at the door right before the bomb went off, or if he sensed something was, well, afoot.

Naw, he WAS leaving...he would too. But they way I saw it, the look he gave he knew something wasn't right. Maybe he heard the bomb tick or something but he knew. Maybe he has a developed "6th sense" as animals do and it developed more from the mutation?

[Meira-Bates]

Well sometimes (I haven't seen it often but I have noticed it) the turtles 'sence' danger. I'd say it's a mix of ninja and animal sences.

[creativerealms82]

Loved this part two of this episode even greater then part one and well that was great too. I hope Casey and Hun fight and Hun and Baxter. I know Baxter still wants to pay Hun back for what he did. Hun was the one that gave Baxter his ‘punishment’ after all.

When the civilians and then the cops came on screen this episode got even better. It added a sense of true chaos in the city when people trying to live their everyday lives get affected by this gang war. Also nice was for the purple dragons to get guns, steal them from the cops.

During the final fight of the episode I think it would have been better is Casey did nothing. Every time he tried to help the turtles in fighting ether Karai or her ninja guards he caused more trouble then help. Of course he is only a street punk compared to a bunch of trained Ninja not like he could do much anyway.

Leo has been acting like Raph while Raph acts more like Leo, odd but makes sense for this story arc. Leo feels responsible for this street war and well he did in a way caused it. Even with doing a good thing like getting rid of the Shredder you have to take the bad too. Leo is having a hard time realizing it and is now trying to right the wrong. Raph sees himself in how Leo is acting right now and is trying to act like Leo to balance things out.

I believe ether Hun is Loyal to Shredder first, then the purple dragons, then the foot because he was a Purple Dragon before becoming a foot ninja. Or that Hun had no choice and the Foot Elite basically kicked him out. Perhaps while he was Shredders right hand man these trained ninja did not like the fact that a street punk was higher ranked then they were.

Final note Karai kicked ass. Great end I must say myself with Karai standing above Leo with her sword (Or was it one of Leo’s?) to Leo’s neck.

[Brinatello]

Originally Posted by creativerealms82

Leo has been acting like Raph while Raph acts more like Leo, odd but makes sense for this story arc. Leo feels responsible for this street war and well he did in a way caused it. Even with doing a good thing like getting rid of the Shredder you have to take the bad too. Leo is having a hard time realizing it and is now trying to right the wrong. Raph sees himself in how Leo is acting right now and is trying to act like Leo to balance things out.

I'd say a perfect example of Leo and Raph are two bumper cars running into each other and then bouncing off from the protective rubber shield. They've argued in every single universe created and not just Raph, no, both can be real persistent and hot-headed! Yeah, I also felt Michael was getting a little raspy by the end of the episode. He was really straining his voice for Leo. Ouchie.

[Kali]

Originally Posted by creativerealms82

Leo has been acting like Raph while Raph acts more like Leo, odd but makes sense for this story arc.

Both Leo and Raph are far more similar than either would admit. They both have "dominate" personalities. Order and Chaos. They are both different sides of the same coin.

[Sakirules]

Originally Posted by creativerealms82

I believe ether Hun is Loyal to Shredder first, then the purple dragons, then the foot because he was a Purple Dragon before becoming a foot ninja. Or that Hun had no choice and the Foot Elite basically kicked him out. Perhaps while he was Shredders right hand man these trained ninja did not like the fact that a street punk was higher ranked then they were.

Hun had authority over the Foot Soldiers and the Foot Elite. But I think the Elite are more skillful than Hun. So maybe they resented that some low life street thug became their commander. And once Saki was gone they most likely did kick him out of the Clan because they refused to take orders from someone who is a lesser Ninja

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by J Legault

Leo saved a passenger on the bus which looked like the same guy who was nearly ranned over by a bus from "Unconvencing TurtleTitan". it looked like he got saved by a Turtle twice

I also noticed the guy Leo saved has been in the series already. It's also kinda funny when you associate that with the bus incident from that same episode they were referencing.

[J Legault]

That's what is great about extras.

[Whitewolf89]

Originally Posted by jestergoblin

Was Raph not listening to Leo or was Leo not listening to Raph?

A bit of both, me thinks.............

[Pher]

i fully enjoyed this episode it was nice to see hun, do somthing on his own without the shredder, im just curios as to how their gonna end this, will hun go back to the foot clan or is he gonna stay with the purple dragons?

[Kali]

Originally Posted by J Legault

And leo saved a passenger on the bus which looked like the same guy who was nearly ranned over by a bus from "Unconvencing TurtleTitan". it looked like he got saved by a Turtle twice

LOL! He's turning into Vinnie from Gargoyles! For those not familiar, Vinnie was a nameless guard who the writers took a liking to, so his character showed up again and again, and every time he managed to inadvertently lose his job because of the Gargoyles' actions. Eventually, he got his "revenge". (Those who've seen the episode, chuckle with me.) There were several other repeat characters in that show as well.

It would be fun if these characters in TMNT actually got names and eventually became characters. Not big characters, but I think it might be cool to see how the Turtles effect the lives of these "normal people".

Originally Posted by creativerealms82

I believe ether Hun is Loyal to Shredder first, then the purple dragons, then the foot because he was a Purple Dragon before becoming a foot ninja. Or that Hun had no choice and the Foot Elite basically kicked him out. Perhaps while he was Shredders right hand man these trained ninja did not like the fact that a street punk was higher ranked then they were.

I think that Hun recognized what bad shape the Foot had gotten into. As Leo said, "How the mighty have fallen." Hun might have actually thought that the Foot without Shredder had no chance of winning this battle. He saw the tide turning, and jumped ship to the Purple Dragons, who had more than enough man power to potentially win. In the name of Shredder, of course.

After all, it's not wise to put all your eggs in one basket.

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City at war. I CANNOT wait to see the end. Why does kari want to fight the turtles, for ruining shredder's empire. Will they explain about Kari being Shredder's former right hand woman.

RApheal is becoming more and more of a rebel with not wanting to listen to leo. IT seems that they (Leo and raph) are fighting again.

I can see what leo was doing. HE blamed himself for the city at war since they defeated the shredder. He was just trying to correct his mistake. I will admit it was risky and dangerous on trying to solve the war himself. All of you could be right about splinter discipling leo for trying to take on something he could not handle alone and for putting his other brothers in danger. That was funny when Michalanngelo went into April's shop and then noticed his mistake and left.

I had a dream about a city at war. I forgot what the dream was about. I think what caused the dream was how scary that was when leo at night was flipping through channels and everyone was talking about a city at war and people getting hurt due to the war and the curphew was increasing.

It turned out that Hun did survive the explosion. To all of you Hun showed his loyality to the shredder because he told the would be leader he would owe it to him and shredder for leading and will take over in his memory. Hun was with the purple dragons in FALLEN ANGEL and mentioned to casey on how his father's store burned, which shows he was with the purple dragons when he did that. Why would foot and purple dragons fight, they were both in shredder's empire. It seems that they split and want control. I ask because the mob was not a part of shredder's empire. BAxter seems to have turned against the foot since is aiding the mob. Will Baxter be back for more. What form will be baxter be in next? He hasn't been seen in a full body since the third episode and cannot die some reason.

AGAIn I think it is possible that Shredder may somehow appear in the very end of city at war 3. That would be a good way to end the city at war trilogy, since his defeat is what caused the city at war. If that happens Shredder will probably try to start to restore his empire. What do you all think of my theory of shredder appearing.

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I think shredder's defeat would have happened anyway since the warrior wanted to take the head of shredder in the ultimate ninja. IF the turtles had not defeated shredder, shredder would have been beaten by the warrior. But shredder had very good fighting skills, blades and armor. I just realised the warrior may not have, or may, known that shredder is a utrom.

[J Legault]

Yep I can see some good ending in part 3.

I'm not sure if Shredder has a new hideway yet. We'll probably see his new hideway in "Rouge in the House". Since so far he lost just about everything: The Sword of Tengu, His HQ, The Utroms.

Now he'll be willing to get revenge on the Turtles once more.

But I do know he did survive the explosion at TCRI.

The legacy of Shredder continues...

[jeff the cheff]

About Hun and the purple dragons...

The foot and purple dragons were always kind of together in crime in NYC. That is where shredder got Hun from. When Shredder died, the two split both wanting complete power. Hun was smart and decided to go with the purple dragons. He wants more power, and staying with the foot wouldn't give him total power because of the foot elite. Hun wanted full power so he decided to go back to the purple dragons and go against the foot.

[Pher]

I agree with the thoght that huns loyalty was with shredder and not, the foot, since his leadership is the best thing the purple dragons got going for them when compared to the foots ninja skills and the mafias high tech weapons, without hun the dagons would probably have been wiped out, with him theyre a major player