New Episode Discussion - "Things Change" <<S - Page 17

GreenWillow · 02-09-2003, 01:10 AM

~Whoa-- took me a long time to get through everyone's comments here! Ok, I just wanted to drop by to add my HOLY- MOTHER- OF- GAWD- THAT WAS AWESOME!!
<ahem>
I can't add anything to what's been said here--Thank you all for having good memories and/or the wit to have taped this episode today so you could quote all those great bits of dialogue.

Machias, I'm so glad you got to see it afterall-- I would surely like to watch it over and over now and catch all the stuff that flew by so fast.

And Keno, my friend....

[quote="Keno"]

Quote:

My mom came into the room halfway thru the show and said "Isnt this abit violent?" NONONO SCREW OFF!!!!! lol. i guess parents never change so i really HOPE there isnt some parental control backlash to the show!

How do I explain this....well, all I can say is let 'em bring it on and I'll beat 'em down just like I did 15 years ago when my kids first fell in love with the TMNT and infected me with this strange malady.

~Mama GW

GordonUniverse · 02-09-2003, 01:47 AM

A friend of mine came over at my house at 10 AM with powdered donuts and Yoo-Hoos. We sat through Ultimate Muscle with the sound pretty low (I only rcognized one guy from those muscle men toys from my younger days... the junior character of this character (mohawked pink dude) had a mouth that looked like a... ... uhm... well... a butthole), we watched that absoultely ridiculous show go by, talking and worrying about the TMNT, hoping that it would be good (neither of us like Transformers Armada or the new Masters of the Universe). I preached a bit about Mirage and how it was supposed to be a closer tone than the original cartoon and such, but still worried. Then the show started. Liked the issue 1 intro quite a bit. Didn't like the theme. When they went above the streets and Raphael was actually hiding and moving with stealth, I said "This show's good," and my friend agreed, and I was happy. I was excited. This new show rocked.

I taped it, so I took the tape to his house, which we went to after, and we showed his brother and another fried, about our age (early 20s), and he liked it too. Then we watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the movie, the first two episodes of the 80s cartoon, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. Watching the different cartoons so close together is very weird, as someone mentioned on here. The 80s version is so much more... silly, I'll say. Not in a bad way, not in a good way. I don't want to bash it. I also decided that as far as audio/video versions of the Turtles go (80s cartoon, new cartoon, next mutation, and the movie trilogy), I'd say that the new cartoon is giving the original movie a run for its money as my favorite, especially if it continues like this. Its definitely better than all the second and third movie and the 80s cartoon and Next Mutation.

All in all I've watched it 5 times today. I'm a bit worried about my tape, I was originally planning on making a tape that I would watch and wear out, and another tape (recorded at 8:30 the following week) that I would preserve until DVD burners are more accessible (or until an official dvd of the show actually comes out), but I'm going to make one of the tapes for my friend. I guess I'll have to rig my video camera to record, and either make a 2nd generation copy to be the watch watch watch copy, or record two tapes of 8:30 at the same time.

A few years ago, I was reading the Mirage comics, and wishing that some day somebody would make a new turtles cartoon that wasn't as... silly. I thought that day would never come. It has come, and my dream version of a turtles cartoon is on the air.

I should stop typing. I loved the show.

**Karpo_007** · 02-09-2003, 03:37 AM

Yesthe old cartoon was goofy. Well the first season and seasons 8-10 were darker, but most of the show was silly. Now this new show, while it is suitable for kids, it is not written for them. I bet almost every near 20 turtle fan here loves the show. While it has humours in it, it is much more serious than the old carton. Pretty close to the feeling of original mirage TMNT.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 02-09-2003, 07:19 AM

Even the fans who are nowhere near 20 are enjoying it.

**Karpo_007** · 02-09-2003, 07:21 AM

Yeah thats good.

prowler4 · 02-09-2003, 08:16 AM

I thought it was pretty good. Actually I thought they'd screw it up!

I prefer the original Cartoon, but this one has a good start so far.

**Nturtle** · 02-09-2003, 09:00 AM

I was so afraid they were going to screw it up, Its to early to say if this is as good, better or worse than the old toon methinks.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 02-09-2003, 09:41 AM

I am very unhappy over the fact that we don't get FOXBOX or UPN or whatever the heck station the new cartoon is on.

I guess I will just have to go with what people say here on the boards. It looks like everyone enjoyed it, so it must have been a successful debut.

"Oh, rats! What a time for the TV to static out!" - Raphael, from "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman"

**Karpo_007** · 02-09-2003, 09:54 AM

IRC isn't that hard to use.. You could always download the ep.

Raphael · 02-09-2003, 10:32 AM

Is it on IRC or Kazaa yet?

**Karpo_007** · 02-09-2003, 10:36 AM

Yes it has been in IRC since yesterday.

darthsmozers · 02-09-2003, 10:55 AM

I'm with Raphael on the notion of using Kazaa. I'm a windows Xp user, and IRC crashes my computer every time I begin a download.

If someone wouldn't mind downloading a good quality version of the first on ep. from IRC and sharing it on AIM or Kazaa, I'd be very much appreciative...I could trade you for old eps....

ANYONE?

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-09-2003, 11:13 AM

Well, since it would be unfair to compare, I think the new cartoon still has a ways to go til at least it makes a big impact on society like the old one did...We shall see what happens on upcoming episodes....

Karpo said that the first 2 or 3 seasons of the old tmnt were the only ones he liked...who knows, that may be true for him with the new show...

Oh well, a little less than 6 days til episode 2 begins...

darthsmozers · 02-09-2003, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokka

Oh well, a little less than 6 days til episode 2 begins...

What? You havent seen Attack of the Clones yet??

Just kidding

speedracer · 02-09-2003, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slash89

Hmm, I've figured out one thing that pays homage to the old show, mistakes

All cartoons have animation goofs all over the place, even a premier cartoon like The Simpsons.

But the old TMNT probably takes the cake for animation mistakes. Especially in the Mousers episode (from the old cartoon!) where they recycle a clip of Michelangelo driving the van and Donatello moving his mouth. Except in the first instance Donatello is really talking, while in the second Raphael is supposed to be talking. So it's an even more egregious (and intentional!) flaw.

speedracer · 02-09-2003, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokka

Well, since it would be unfair to compare, I think the new cartoon still has a ways to go til at least it makes a big impact on society like the old one did...We shall see what happens on upcoming episodes....

Karpo said that the first 2 or 3 seasons of the old tmnt were the only ones he liked...who knows, that may be true for him with the new show...

Oh well, a little less than 6 days til episode 2 begins...

Well, as we all know they drastically increased the silliness factor and decreased the violence and overall dark tone after the first season of the old cartoon. It'd be sad if it happened with the new cartoon.

Actually I suspect that if the producers and network execs wanted to do the same to the new show, Peter Laird would just pull the plug. I don't think he'd want it to happen again.

**Karpo_007** · 02-09-2003, 12:42 PM

Yes. After the first season the old show went totally goofy. But Im sure that won't be the case with the new show.

speedracer · 02-09-2003, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Eeee!!!

1. The guys are AWESOME!!! They move so fluidly! I want to have them all!!!

3. heh, got sidetracked, OMG!!! Splinter is AWESOME!!!!! I want to have his children!!! *hears crickets chirp* I mean... I love him, but I still want the turtles...uh, not in THAT way, uh... they are his children....gah...nevermind...*slithers away*

Call me racist, but I've always thought that interspecies relationships are a bad idea.

And hooking up with all the turtles *and* Splinter...that's practically incestuous.

**Machias Banshee** · 02-09-2003, 12:45 PM

I"m not exactly human either...

**Kali** · 02-09-2003, 12:46 PM

Aww, I love the idea of inter(sentient)species dating. Humans are BORING...

Glad to see you got the see the show, Machi!

View Poll Results: What did you think of the new cartoon?
IT ROCKED!	72	75.00%
It was pretty good	14	14.58%
It was okay	2	2.08%
It could have been better	3	3.13%
Horrible!	1	1.04%
I rather have the old cartoon.	4	4.17%
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02-09-2003, 07:19 AM	#324
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	Even the fans who are nowhere near 20 are enjoying it. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

02-09-2003, 08:16 AM	#326
prowler4 Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 297	I thought it was pretty good. Actually I thought they'd screw it up! I prefer the original Cartoon, but this one has a good start so far. __________________ GO GREEN MACHINE!

02-09-2003, 09:00 AM	#327
Nturtle Ninja Master Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Technodrome Airducts Posts: 5,215	I was so afraid they were going to screw it up, Its to early to say if this is as good, better or worse than the old toon methinks. __________________ Fil rules. If Fil takes your 5 bucks then you should be eternally grateful that Fil would even borrow your money. Fil.

02-09-2003, 01:47 AM	#322
GordonUniverse Thug Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Karlsruhe Posts: 94	A friend of mine came over at my house at 10 AM with powdered donuts and Yoo-Hoos. We sat through Ultimate Muscle with the sound pretty low (I only rcognized one guy from those muscle men toys from my younger days... the junior character of this character (mohawked pink dude) had a mouth that looked like a... ... uhm... well... a butthole), we watched that absoultely ridiculous show go by, talking and worrying about the TMNT, hoping that it would be good (neither of us like Transformers Armada or the new Masters of the Universe). I preached a bit about Mirage and how it was supposed to be a closer tone than the original cartoon and such, but still worried. Then the show started. Liked the issue 1 intro quite a bit. Didn't like the theme. When they went above the streets and Raphael was actually hiding and moving with stealth, I said "This show's good," and my friend agreed, and I was happy. I was excited. This new show rocked. I taped it, so I took the tape to his house, which we went to after, and we showed his brother and another fried, about our age (early 20s), and he liked it too. Then we watched Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles the movie, the first two episodes of the 80s cartoon, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2. Watching the different cartoons so close together is very weird, as someone mentioned on here. The 80s version is so much more... silly, I'll say. Not in a bad way, not in a good way. I don't want to bash it. I also decided that as far as audio/video versions of the Turtles go (80s cartoon, new cartoon, next mutation, and the movie trilogy), I'd say that the new cartoon is giving the original movie a run for its money as my favorite, especially if it continues like this. Its definitely better than all the second and third movie and the 80s cartoon and Next Mutation. All in all I've watched it 5 times today. I'm a bit worried about my tape, I was originally planning on making a tape that I would watch and wear out, and another tape (recorded at 8:30 the following week) that I would preserve until DVD burners are more accessible (or until an official dvd of the show actually comes out), but I'm going to make one of the tapes for my friend. I guess I'll have to rig my video camera to record, and either make a 2nd generation copy to be the watch watch watch copy, or record two tapes of 8:30 at the same time. A few years ago, I was reading the Mirage comics, and wishing that some day somebody would make a new turtles cartoon that wasn't as... silly. I thought that day would never come. It has come, and my dream version of a turtles cartoon is on the air. I should stop typing. I loved the show.

02-09-2003, 03:37 AM	#323
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yesthe old cartoon was goofy. Well the first season and seasons 8-10 were darker, but most of the show was silly. Now this new show, while it is suitable for kids, it is not written for them. I bet almost every near 20 turtle fan here loves the show. While it has humours in it, it is much more serious than the old carton. Pretty close to the feeling of original mirage TMNT.

02-09-2003, 07:21 AM	#325
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah thats good.

02-09-2003, 09:41 AM	#328
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	I am very unhappy over the fact that we don't get FOXBOX or UPN or whatever the heck station the new cartoon is on. I guess I will just have to go with what people say here on the boards. It looks like everyone enjoyed it, so it must have been a successful debut. "Oh, rats! What a time for the TV to static out!" - Raphael, from "Michaelangelo Meets Bugman"

02-09-2003, 09:54 AM	#329
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	IRC isn't that hard to use.. You could always download the ep.

02-09-2003, 10:32 AM	#330
Raphael Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: England Posts: 143	Is it on IRC or Kazaa yet?

02-09-2003, 10:36 AM	#331
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes it has been in IRC since yesterday.

02-09-2003, 10:55 AM	#332
darthsmozers Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,277	I'm with Raphael on the notion of using Kazaa. I'm a windows Xp user, and IRC crashes my computer every time I begin a download. If someone wouldn't mind downloading a good quality version of the first on ep. from IRC and sharing it on AIM or Kazaa, I'd be very much appreciative...I could trade you for old eps.... ANYONE?

02-09-2003, 11:13 AM	#333
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Well, since it would be unfair to compare, I think the new cartoon still has a ways to go til at least it makes a big impact on society like the old one did...We shall see what happens on upcoming episodes.... Karpo said that the first 2 or 3 seasons of the old tmnt were the only ones he liked...who knows, that may be true for him with the new show... Oh well, a little less than 6 days til episode 2 begins...

02-09-2003, 12:42 PM	#337
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes. After the first season the old show went totally goofy. But Im sure that won't be the case with the new show.

02-09-2003, 12:45 PM	#339
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	I"m not exactly human either...

02-09-2003, 12:46 PM	#340
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Aww, I love the idea of inter(sentient)species dating. Humans are BORING... Glad to see you got the see the show, Machi!