TMNT:FF New Episode "Bishop to Knight" - Page 2

*gobo* · 10-08-2006, 10:41 PM

If you didn't personify any tv character, why bother watching the show? What entertainment value do they have for us if we think of them as just someone's silly imaginary idea?

blue_angel99 · 10-08-2006, 11:58 PM

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How can an A4 sheet of paper design animated on Celloid deserve a chance for repetence?

Sorry, I just hate it when people treat these characters like there real. Single saddest case of animation fandom bar none.

blue_angel99 · 10-08-2006, 11:58 PM

I'm okay now.

*Sewer Bull* · 10-09-2006, 01:50 AM

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blue_angel99 · 10-09-2006, 02:16 AM

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Now that is a scary thought...He could very well be.

*VaughnMichael* · 10-09-2006, 04:27 AM

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aww don't cry he likes to do that sorta thing...he's harmless really...*gives zarius a cracker*

The Big Bad · 10-09-2006, 05:52 AM

I. Called. It.

But seriously, awesome. If Torbin Zixx lives up to the hype, then we could have Fast Forward's first "must see" episode here.

blue_angel99 · 10-09-2006, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

aww don't cry he likes to do that sorta thing...he's harmless really...*gives zarius a cracker*

Thanks.

Zechs · 10-09-2006, 09:19 AM

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TerranigmaFreak · 10-09-2006, 10:15 AM

You know, I find it hilarious everytime someone tells me Bishop is a great villian.

Ok, let's look at what Bishop has been able to accomplish in 2 seasons.

Bishop was able to rip-off millions in tax payer money to continue his super soldier research. And that's about it.

Let's look at his failures.

Bishop was able to extract DNA from the TMNT thus advancing his research by decades and we've never seen a single super soldier that works. I THINK the Rat King's actually one of them, but he's hardly super. Oh let's not forget he's gotten millions of tax payer dollars to go even further with his research. So where are his super soldiers? He keeps talking about them for 2 or 3 seasons. WHERE ARE THE RESULTS? He's just all talk.

How many times was he able to defeat the TMNT? Well, he was able to defeat them in their nightmares. Oh yeah, I guess he was kinda successful with his money scheme. Of course that also just backfired in his face with a monster outbreak.

He manipulated the TMNT to do his dirty work for him only to have it backfire in his face while actually providing a cure for Donny.

Now let's compare him to a certain alien with a spikey armor, shall we?

Yup, Shredder's been defeated countless times as well. I don't think you need me to name them all.

Now, the Shredder's accomplishments range from starting several intergalatic wars. He's totally defeated the turtles at least once and trashed April's apartment. He used the Triceraton invasion to his advantage and actually built a way to leave earth. He took over the future and managed to pretty much kill off 3 of the 4 turtles along with Splinter. He was able to escape death a few times despite the fact that's nothing but an alien squid. He even escaped his Utrom prison and caused the Utrom ship to crash on earth. He gave power to the Tokugawa in fedual Japan and successfully built his own evil empire.

Oh, and even Karai's been able to defeat the turtles and drove them from their home.

Bishop was a filler villian, nothing more. The writers obviously didn't care about him. Where is he in the Lost Season? The fact is, the lost season was meant to be a 13 episode thing and Bishop was never an important part of it. The writers didn't even try to be creative with Bishop's back story. Remember the episode where they battled his cybrog clone? Bishop was thrown into a huge hook and got impaled. Oh look, a villian that looks like he's been killed only to walk out of the battle alive, where have I seen that before? Not only that, but when you finally find out about him, it was really anti-climatic.

What is more believable in a fantasy world like TMNT? A robot being able to walk out of a battle alive because his suit's head was cut off, or a guy with a melting body being able to escape a huge hook impaled into his body? Let's not forget a hook that size being impaled into a guy's body would also destroy his spine and major internal organs. But since his body is able to melt, we're to believe he is able to survive even though his major organs would be destroyed.

*iris* · 10-09-2006, 10:24 AM

*pouts*

Would y'all quit talking about the political affiliations of TMNT characters? That's unpalatable in the extreme.

*Raph's Girl* · 10-09-2006, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TerranigmaFreak

Bishop was a filler villian, nothing more. The writers obviously didn't care about him. Where is he in the Lost Season? The fact is, the lost season was meant to be a 13 episode thing and Bishop was never an important part of it. The writers didn't even try to be creative with Bishop's back story..

1: Bishop IS in The Lost Season.... He and Baxter bring Nano back to life....and um..then they all team up with the turtles to fight Demon Shredder.

2: His backstory isn't creative??? So... A man who was a General in the War of 1812 and abducted by aliens at the Battle of New Orleans...aliens who did experiements on him that heightened his lifespan....isn't creative??? Sure he's since cloned himself who knows how many times....and then he teams up with Grant and creates a form of M.I.B after a ship crashed (probably where he got the initial cloning tech).

*ZariusTwo* · 10-09-2006, 11:53 AM

(Plays George Bush's "Sunday, Bloody Sunday")

Ultimate Shredder · 10-09-2006, 01:32 PM

I hope Torbin Zixx is a cool villan Not like the previous villain.

*Raph's Girl* · 10-09-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultimate Shredder

I hope Torbin Zixx is a cool villan Not like the previous villain.

That's the thing... Torbin Zixx isn't a villian.... He's on the allies card as a lovable intergalactic bounty hunter.

TheShowstoppa · 10-09-2006, 04:48 PM

I was about to say, Torbin Zixx is an allie. You people are freaking over nothing. Why would they make Bishop a good guy? They have nothing to gain from it. Him being the president comes with certain advantages. He probably can't do anything about the aliens that abducted him, but he sure as hell can do whatever he wants to the turtles to gain revenge.

Basically, I am still trying to figure out why the turtles aren't alive in 2105. If you think back to the comic "Holes" from Tales... One of the Leonardos says that Donatello gave him the sword he fights with on his 100th birthday. We don't even know how old he is in that comic! To say the turtles are no more 99 years into the future is crap! Their lifespan out lasts that of almost any other creature.

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 10-09-2006, 05:35 PM

Good point, turtles live to be old.

If Bishop wants Torbin Zixx stopped, and Torbin is a good guy, then that means Bishop's probably still evil.

*VaughnMichael* · 10-09-2006, 06:36 PM

hmmm me thinks me smells a Lord Dregg....oh wait nope thats just old salsa behind the couch.

*gobo* · 10-09-2006, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheShowstoppa

Basically, I am still trying to figure out why the turtles aren't alive in 2105. To say the turtles are no more 99 years into the future is crap! Their lifespan out lasts that of almost any other creature.

Don't you remember? SpawnGuy set them on fire as soon as he joined. Blame it all on him.

*iris* · 10-09-2006, 09:12 PM

Everything is Spawn Guy's fault. That's Occam's badger brush.

/obscure references

ETA:
On my friend, Ockam. I can't send private messages to him either.

10-08-2006, 10:41 PM	#21
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	If you didn't personify any tv character, why bother watching the show? What entertainment value do they have for us if we think of them as just someone's silly imaginary idea? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-08-2006, 11:58 PM	#23
blue_angel99 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 382	I'm okay now. __________________ Last edited by blue_angel99; 10-09-2006 at 02:17 AM.

10-09-2006, 09:19 AM	#29
Zechs Thug Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: IL Posts: 56	Spoiler: I think it's quite obvious Bishop is a Republican. A leopard doesn't change their stripes.. well maybe Karai.. there is still good in her. But Bishop no way, this is probably his first step to um.. wiping out all aliens! Yeah! Plus this got to be an intro for the Dark Turtles __________________

10-09-2006, 10:15 AM	#30
TerranigmaFreak Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 715	You know, I find it hilarious everytime someone tells me Bishop is a great villian. Ok, let's look at what Bishop has been able to accomplish in 2 seasons. Bishop was able to rip-off millions in tax payer money to continue his super soldier research. And that's about it. Let's look at his failures. Bishop was able to extract DNA from the TMNT thus advancing his research by decades and we've never seen a single super soldier that works. I THINK the Rat King's actually one of them, but he's hardly super. Oh let's not forget he's gotten millions of tax payer dollars to go even further with his research. So where are his super soldiers? He keeps talking about them for 2 or 3 seasons. WHERE ARE THE RESULTS? He's just all talk. How many times was he able to defeat the TMNT? Well, he was able to defeat them in their nightmares. Oh yeah, I guess he was kinda successful with his money scheme. Of course that also just backfired in his face with a monster outbreak. He manipulated the TMNT to do his dirty work for him only to have it backfire in his face while actually providing a cure for Donny. Now let's compare him to a certain alien with a spikey armor, shall we? Yup, Shredder's been defeated countless times as well. I don't think you need me to name them all. Now, the Shredder's accomplishments range from starting several intergalatic wars. He's totally defeated the turtles at least once and trashed April's apartment. He used the Triceraton invasion to his advantage and actually built a way to leave earth. He took over the future and managed to pretty much kill off 3 of the 4 turtles along with Splinter. He was able to escape death a few times despite the fact that's nothing but an alien squid. He even escaped his Utrom prison and caused the Utrom ship to crash on earth. He gave power to the Tokugawa in fedual Japan and successfully built his own evil empire. Oh, and even Karai's been able to defeat the turtles and drove them from their home. Bishop was a filler villian, nothing more. The writers obviously didn't care about him. Where is he in the Lost Season? The fact is, the lost season was meant to be a 13 episode thing and Bishop was never an important part of it. The writers didn't even try to be creative with Bishop's back story. Remember the episode where they battled his cybrog clone? Bishop was thrown into a huge hook and got impaled. Oh look, a villian that looks like he's been killed only to walk out of the battle alive, where have I seen that before? Not only that, but when you finally find out about him, it was really anti-climatic. What is more believable in a fantasy world like TMNT? A robot being able to walk out of a battle alive because his suit's head was cut off, or a guy with a melting body being able to escape a huge hook impaled into his body? Let's not forget a hook that size being impaled into a guy's body would also destroy his spine and major internal organs. But since his body is able to melt, we're to believe he is able to survive even though his major organs would be destroyed. __________________ First footage of the new R rated TMNT movie.

10-09-2006, 10:24 AM	#31
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	pouts Would y'all quit talking about the political affiliations of TMNT characters? That's unpalatable in the extreme. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ] Last edited by iris; 10-09-2006 at 10:51 AM.

10-09-2006, 05:52 AM	#27
The Big Bad Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 653	I. Called. It. But seriously, awesome. If Torbin Zixx lives up to the hype, then we could have Fast Forward's first "must see" episode here.

10-09-2006, 11:53 AM	#33
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,301	(Plays George Bush's "Sunday, Bloody Sunday") __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

10-09-2006, 01:32 PM	#34
Ultimate Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Boston Posts: 101	I hope Torbin Zixx is a cool villan Not like the previous villain. Last edited by Ultimate Shredder; 10-09-2006 at 02:48 PM.

10-09-2006, 04:48 PM	#36
TheShowstoppa Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 629	I was about to say, Torbin Zixx is an allie. You people are freaking over nothing. Why would they make Bishop a good guy? They have nothing to gain from it. Him being the president comes with certain advantages. He probably can't do anything about the aliens that abducted him, but he sure as hell can do whatever he wants to the turtles to gain revenge. Basically, I am still trying to figure out why the turtles aren't alive in 2105. If you think back to the comic "Holes" from Tales... One of the Leonardos says that Donatello gave him the sword he fights with on his 100th birthday. We don't even know how old he is in that comic! To say the turtles are no more 99 years into the future is crap! Their lifespan out lasts that of almost any other creature. __________________ Courtesy of LUCKFF "I don't know what bothers me more; That this actually worked, or that Don carries around a pigeon puppet." - Mikey: Search for Splinter Pt. 1

10-09-2006, 05:35 PM	#37
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	Good point, turtles live to be old. If Bishop wants Torbin Zixx stopped, and Torbin is a good guy, then that means Bishop's probably still evil.

10-09-2006, 06:36 PM	#38
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	hmmm me thinks me smells a Lord Dregg....oh wait nope thats just old salsa behind the couch.

10-09-2006, 09:12 PM	#40
iris moddy mod mod Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: finally escaped the lab Posts: 1,886	Everything is Spawn Guy's fault. That's Occam's badger brush. /obscure references ETA: On my friend, Ockam. I can't send private messages to him either. __________________ Appeal to nobler motives. Like pie. [ life is at best bitter sweet ]