TMNT Ep Discussion "Bad Blood"

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

I don't understand why people are putting me down because I just would like to see TMNT be placed in a more mature time scale. And I don't mean of a South Park venue. Maybe the new style of an action, in depth animated feature would be one "shell" of a shock to the industry by placing the toon on, say, 8:00 pm on a Friday night. It will be different tone of pace from the usual crude humor, and maybe a lot of people will like this change.

Why don't they take some of the story arcs from the first season of the 2003 series and place them on in the evenings, say for the summer. Just to see how things do? Can't do any worse than some of the shows that have managed to stay afloat for the last couple of years.

I just don't see the problem with trying. You'll never know how something will do if you dont try. And what didn't work for one thing certaintly doesn't mean that will be the same outcome for everything.

Personally I think it's happening because the TMNT are not quite yet in a place that they as a series can be taken seriously like say batman or superman. Perhaps they never will be as much of a fan of the 80's toon and Archie fan as well I believe these things have allot to do with the fact that people stopped taking the Turtles seriously.
It's the same thing that happened to Jim Henson he was an adult entertainer then he did Sesame Street as a project which many people don't even know that he was just helping with the show it's not even really his sure he did the puppet skits and all but some one else was behind the entire show.
His Muppet Show, The Land Of Gorch on SNL, The Labryth, The Dark Crystal, The Jim Henson Hour, as well as The Story Teller are not taken seriously because of the fad that Sesame Street Became. Now finally after all of these years of Jim's passing Brian his son is finally trying to bring back the name of the true Henson Studios and help regain the credit that it once had as a company.
It takes allot of work and if Peter Laird really wanted to do it he would the 2k3 series came very close to what it could be but sadly people still look at the turtles as a kids property. We can all say what we want but when it comes down to it in the morning when we all wake up he's the only one in charge of the Turtles and he's the only one who's got the power to make a difference. Sure we all can write to people and tell them oh this or that about ?Mirage and the 2k3 cartoon but it's honestly not going to make a difference as much as the owner of the property will make.
A good idea would be to start witting letters to Peter with ideas of what he perhaps should do as his next move.

Originally Posted by gobo

I wasn't trying to insult you, Warhorse. I wish it could work that way myself. But, since the show would need to change hands to a group that handles Primetime programming, it would quickly transformed into something less favorable than what we have now.

And what we have now isn't favored very much..

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Chris

Must admit I gave up with the UK airings when the Season 4 set came out.

Just checked Radio Times and they're listing it as weekend mornings, with the latest listed being "Wing and a Prayer" on Dec 2nd. How far did the show make it in the end? Did CITV ever reach "Ninja Tribunal"?

They finally aired all episodes. "Ninja Tribunal" aired around September.

[Buslady]

We get crap because the mindset of the average person is that TMNT is for kiddies, not for adults. Ya got the original series to thank for that.
The average adult (the typical non fan) will watch silly dramas instead of forgetting real life for 30 minutes as watch a fun, action packed show about 4 turtle mutants and their fight to survive.
TMNTFF is killing the series and there won't be jack $#!+ after this psuedo season 6. Cutting the season into 5 and 6, is a pile of hot steamy poo. I used to look forward into watching TMNT every saturday when we had REAL stories with lots of character development, now after a long week of sitting in traffic I dont get anything to look forward to. It was just a nice little treat to wake up to on the weekends.

Back on topic...

I think Bad Blood will be about the dark turtles and those eggs...which IMO Sishakabobo is a really lame looking character. BIG body TEENY head.

[Spike Spiegel]

They should show the Lost Season in prime time for all of us true TMNT fans to see...

[PizzaPower]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Because the show is to adult for kids, and not adult enough for adults.

The show is more for Teens and all Teens watch are crap reality shows on MTV and Fox.

so make it a reality show, lol

[Buslady]

Yeah a reality show:

In the sewer, spend a week with the turtles, can you handle it? The smell, the messes, the rat.

[Sewer Bull]

Originally Posted by Buslady

Yeah a reality show:

In the sewer, spend a week with the turtles, can you handle it? The smell, the messes, the rat.

*notes down the idea*

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Stephen!

That's what it's like for us in the UK. They kept airing the same S4 episodes over and over for months, then eventually air a few new episodes, repeat for months, air a few more new episodes, repeat for months ect.

Isn't the UK notorious for rerunning things over and over? I mean, Monty Python made fun of that a lot.

[creativerealms82]

Originally Posted by gobo

EDIT: Just realized, but this ep title is a good sign. Remember Bishop's debut ep? Until it aired, they were calling it "The New Guard". Since it was actually "New Blood", it is my guess that some self-righteous airhead thought that the word 'blood' was too much for kids. So, here FF is, and they're not trying to PC it to death? That's odd, to say the least.

Actually it was the first appearance of the updated (Karai trained) foot and Dr. Chappman that was New Blood. Correct about how they hid the episoes true name for a while though.

[gobo]

Oh, right! Dr. Chaplin was the "New Blood". My evil, yo.

[Sonic777]

Bad Blood Episode is on.

[TMNT]

Just saw it. I missed last week's and heard it was really good. This one didn't disappoint. We saw the Dark Turtles--for now, a decent enemy. Splinter is in top form this time around and with Serling nonetheless and in a bar fight...he went to jail! Cody came in handy this time. Cody reminds me of Keno in TMNT II as he wants to help the guys but isn't "allowed" by Splinter. The only difference being that Splinter let him help as Keno just ran off. Overall, not a bad episode. As far as next week is concerned "The Journal" just seems like a filler episode though Splinter's warning about reading it messing a lot of things up seems interesting, I'm not sure if it really has anything to offer.

[Buslady]

OMG I hate this cheery Cody "A little grossed out but OKAY!" It's' soooooooooooo bad

UGH...Cody's' little snothead, stuck up behavior....can I kill him? Someone say I can kill him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I"m a snot wad...i rescued the turtles and im a ninja kid....*STABS*....

These Dark turtles...they say they're "brothers"...being created off the guy's DNA...don't that make 'em ...in a way...their ...*shudders*....offspring?

*DIES*

Shishkababo wants to fool with Time & Space? Nah..the Doctor won't let him....I'd die laughing if, as a gag, you see a TARDIS materialise behind him.

That was an okay ep...it would be fine if that Cody wasn't so damn prominant

[xChri5x]

I slept in accidentally and missed it.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by xChri5x

I slept in accidentally and missed it.

Sounds like the best episode yet, thanks for the recap

[Cascadia]

This episode kind of reminded me of the episode of Metalhead because it was programmed with the turtles' personalities. Except in this case, it was a more futuristic version. I felt that it was kind of funny that the clones had the same voices as the original versions.

[Ninja Tiptup]

There's no doubt in my mind that Dark Leo was modeled at least a bit after our old pal Slash. In the usual homage sense.

I liked this episode. Since Fast Forward was annouced to include evil turtles I've been waiting for them to show up and I really think they delivered.

If they really are going to wait until Fall to show the rest (apparently all 13 of this season is heading to DVD in a box set according to another thread). Maybe they'll play reruns of previous seasons to ramp up for the new movie. Or better yet... they could play Ninja Tribunal (I doubt it).

But if you want TMNT in prime time. There's only one place to do it. Toonami. They could put it between The Batman and Naruto at 8:30PM making both a NA comic hero hour 8-9PM and a ninja hour 8:30-9:30PM. And IMO that'd be the ideal slot for the Ninja Tribunal. I thought CN got rid of TMNT but it's still listed on their show page even though it was recently overhauled so I assume they can still play it. It's time to send letters.

[Shadow Wolf75]

I don't get you people, first you whine that Cody was useless, and then when he's actually helpful you guys whine some more. And at least he knows when to stay out of the way of the real fighters; in the last scuffle he hung back and didn't even try fighting with the Dark Turtles.

Speaking of fighting, Serling actually did pretty good in that bar fight, didn't he? Yes, Splinter helped, but now we know the big robot can hold his own in a battle too.

The thing that was interesting at the end was Sho'kanabo asking Darius about how the Turtles got to the future. Man, everybody wants access to time travel in this show . . . wonder who'll actually get it first, though?

[AquaParade]

I havent been watching many of the recent episodes, but you can definitley tell the show is improving. Leo seemed a lot more in character today which I liked. As for the Dark turtles...hmmm i guess i expected them to be a little more intimidating but then again i have to remember this isnt 2k3 anymore. They were still pretty cool and i have a lot of hope for them in future episodes( I think I liked Leo's clone best) It kinda seemed like a hint to the fans that next time the dark turtles are back they might be a little more dangerous, when Dunn mentioned to Sho'kanbo(?) that he still beleived they had potential.

[Raph's Girl]

Pretty good ep. It was definatly dark and Raph's put down's at his clone were pretty funny (and rather dark)

I noticed an error while they were fighting tho. Dark Mike was fighting Mikey but when he picked him up it was
Leo!

Cody's really coming into his own. His wrist thing was definatly a convienent plot device tho. It appeared to be
able to do everything. Plus he's now questioning his Uncle's motives! Yay!

The Dark Turtles are definatly gonna become interesting re-acurring villians. Especially since they're on the O'Neil-Tech Payroll. *L*

And it looks like that it may be Sho'Kanobo who helps the turtles get back to the past since HE's now interested in time travel.


Now for a couple questions:
1: Were they fighting in the old lair?



Quotes:

"We kick no behind before it's time, little ninja" - Don

"I'll show you oopsie!" - Raph


As for next week: Ah.. Casey's journal!