Higher Quality trailer - Page 2

*Masked Ninja* · 12-14-2006, 09:09 AM

Sometimes people also confuse "animation" with "look" or "style." Take, for example, Fast Forward. I've heard people say "Ugh, the animation is so ugly!" when they really mean they dislike the angular style. (I didn't like the actual animation in the first few episodes either, but I can't judge beyond that because I haven't seen them.)

So about this...? It looks extremely nice. A little computery here and there, but then again, it's not going for realism... so no worries. It's mostly a couple textures now and again that seem too smooth. The animation probably isn't the best I've seen (so far, the running rat in the Ratatouille trailer has impressed me the most), but it's darn good and definitely holds its own. I saw a couple minutes of Hoodwinked in my film class this semester, and it honestly looked like a student film. Heck, OUR student films generally look better and we're not an art college. The animation of TMNT already blows that crap away with ease, and we've only seen the trailer.

I'll admit I was also worried at a little-known company doing the movie, but no more. This thing is going to look great, at least.

Donatello · 12-14-2006, 12:35 PM

thanks for the quicktime version guys,

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-14-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xChri5x

I think it's very top-notch.

You can't compare all CGI though. It depends on the type. Final Fantasy Advent Children for instance is trying to imitate real life, the TMNT movie isn't. It's more "toon" based

The best looking CGI cartoon I've seen to date is Monster House. As for imitating real life, I still say It's Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within.

Yeah but thing about Monster house is they used mo-cap, TMNT didn't, so there are gonna be differences. But I'd give the edge to TMNT, because more effort was put into it, and it shows.

xChri5x · 12-14-2006, 10:58 PM

In the HD version of the teaser you can really see the details of this animation. The shells, their skin, it all looks fabulous.
I didn't notice with the other versions of the trailer but with the quicktime trailer you can make out the stubble on Casey's face. I can't wait until the DVD release of this.

*Masked Ninja* · 12-15-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

Yeah but thing about Monster house is they used mo-cap, TMNT didn't, so there are gonna be differences. But I'd give the edge to TMNT, because more effort was put into it, and it shows.

Yeah, I'm very against mo-cap. If you can do it in live-action, do it in live-action. It looks like crud in animation if it's digitally "traced" - too stiff. The models looked good in Monster House, but I haven't actually seen it yet. Probably because Polar Express creeped me out so much. (Gollum from Two Towers did look good, but I'll bet that's either tweaked mo-cap or Andy Serkis was just that good at being animated.

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It's why I'm glad they're taking the look of the Turtles in a whole new direction. To simply imitate the live action turtles would be stupid, and we've been told the cost to do the animatronics well would be too much. Give me amazing physics-defying TMNT - I want to see some animation!

xChri5x · 12-15-2006, 01:03 AM

I think motion capture makes it more realistic. I don't see how it's "creepy"

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-15-2006, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by xChri5x

I think motion capture makes it more realistic. I don't see how it's "creepy"

But it's like what MN just said, if they want to make it so realistic, then they should just make it live action. If theyre not gonna bother putting in the effort to animate it, then don't make in an animated movie.

*Kendamu* · 12-15-2006, 03:10 AM

TMTWBR, I don't think that logic can be applied to movies like "Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children". Ever seen it? You'll know what I mean.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 12-15-2006, 05:16 PM

I have seen it. Pretty damn impressive, but I just don't like motion capture being used in animated films. It cheapens it. At least for me.

METALHEAD · 12-18-2006, 02:41 AM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TOgOuXMoOng here you go dudes & dudettes!

*Kendamu* · 12-18-2006, 03:04 AM

Mo-cap is cool for some films like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children or Appleseed, but there are a lot of time where it does suck.

12-14-2006, 12:35 PM	#22
Donatello Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Posts: 565	thanks for the quicktime version guys, __________________ "There's no way to describe what I do. It's just me." -Andy Kaufman (my biggest inspiration, the TMNT being a close second) Last edited by Donatello; 12-14-2006 at 01:04 PM.

12-14-2006, 09:09 AM	#21
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	Sometimes people also confuse "animation" with "look" or "style." Take, for example, Fast Forward. I've heard people say "Ugh, the animation is so ugly!" when they really mean they dislike the angular style. (I didn't like the actual animation in the first few episodes either, but I can't judge beyond that because I haven't seen them.) So about this...? It looks extremely nice. A little computery here and there, but then again, it's not going for realism... so no worries. It's mostly a couple textures now and again that seem too smooth. The animation probably isn't the best I've seen (so far, the running rat in the Ratatouille trailer has impressed me the most), but it's darn good and definitely holds its own. I saw a couple minutes of Hoodwinked in my film class this semester, and it honestly looked like a student film. Heck, OUR student films generally look better and we're not an art college. The animation of TMNT already blows that crap away with ease, and we've only seen the trailer. I'll admit I was also worried at a little-known company doing the movie, but no more. This thing is going to look great, at least.

12-14-2006, 10:58 PM	#24
xChri5x Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 901	In the HD version of the teaser you can really see the details of this animation. The shells, their skin, it all looks fabulous. I didn't notice with the other versions of the trailer but with the quicktime trailer you can make out the stubble on Casey's face. I can't wait until the DVD release of this.

12-15-2006, 01:03 AM	#26
xChri5x Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 901	I think motion capture makes it more realistic. I don't see how it's "creepy"

12-15-2006, 03:10 AM	#28
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	TMTWBR, I don't think that logic can be applied to movies like "Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children". Ever seen it? You'll know what I mean.

12-15-2006, 05:16 PM	#29
~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: The Seventh Layer of Hell Posts: 1,929	I have seen it. Pretty damn impressive, but I just don't like motion capture being used in animated films. It cheapens it. At least for me.

12-18-2006, 02:41 AM	#30
METALHEAD Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: san benito texas Posts: 734	http://youtube.com/watch?v=TOgOuXMoOng here you go dudes & dudettes!

12-18-2006, 03:04 AM	#31
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Mo-cap is cool for some films like Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children or Appleseed, but there are a lot of time where it does suck.