Today's New Fast Forward Episode "Enter the Jammerhead" Discussion

[Cascadia]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Well...this was more or less a filler ep. All that really happened was that Starlee's folks (is it just me
or does her dad look like Spock?? ) allowed her to stay on earth. Her bro's name is Glaxor. That name sounds
familiar. He's a bit of a kluts. And Starlee's mom... an alien who sounds like she's from New York??

Now I wish we learned exactly what Jammerhead is. Is he a robot or some sort of cyborg??? And why didn't they
ever notice the tracking device on Don's butt???

Great minds think alike.

[Kunoichi_Haruko]

To answer Raph's Girl:

I'm beginning to think Jammerhead is a cyborg. I wonder if all the other Street Phantoms are, too...

[Drtooth]

It's official... Starlee is Mira from Buzz Lightyear... only her parents are Jewish stereotypes instead of upperclass WASP stereotypes. The one thing I like about Starlee? She doesn't appear too often.

Anyway, decent episode. And I agree, the plot lines seem like they would be better suited to the old series. And I also agree that the Wrestling one was terrible... though Gamenator is still my least favorite.

Lessse..... Dragon Ball Kamehameha wave refference, Refference to Snagglepuss, Obligatory Star Wars line.... basically alright...

I'm guessing Cody really doesn't want Starlee to turn out like her mother. That's about all I can say.

These one shots are just so "Blah." I am looking forward to the next episode ONLY if Bishop is in it.

[JetsAndHeels]

This episode was totally a drag and quite frankly a waste of my time. The idea was good, having Jammerhead download all the martial arts techniques and such, but when it all played out it just seemed too goofy for my liking. Plus Starlee's family just annoyed the crap out of me (I know they were supposed to since they are like that).
The one bright spot for me was when the guys were fighting Jammerhead and told Splinter to go back and keep Starlee's family occupied...Splinter made the comment "hurry, if not for your sake for mine"..or something like that..I thought that was funny.

I hope next week is better, the preview of it looked more entertaining than today's entire episode was.

[mumbo230]

The episode was crap for the most part for the aforementioned reasons, but for some reason I found this from Starlee's mom to be absolutely hilarious:

"What's with the masks? Are you hanging out with criminals? Did you join a cult?"

[cowabunga14]

I thought this epsiode was all right -- it felt kinda average... It was interesting to see Starlee again and what her family thought of Earth. I didn't mind Jammerhead's appearence seeing as he performed cool karate moves that reminded me of Bruce Lee.

I liked the fight scene with the Turtles and Jammerhead and how Jammerhead made a fool of himself towards the end... Anyhow, I'm giving this episode three Jammerhead fighting moves out of five. Hopefully next week's ep will be better.

[MAESTAS]

I liked the episode, I just didn't like how jammerhead was dominating the turtles.

[Jester]

Am I alone in liking this episode? yeah it did feel like a OT episode, but I loved the 80's show...so it doesn't bother me much. I also liked that line from Starlee's mom. "Did you join a cult?" had me rolling. I also liked Splinter going toe-to-toe with Jammerhead. Thought I'm not a big fan of the character, this seemed to be a good way to show he's not just some filler villain. Serling was actually funny and no "It's Ninja Time!" so I've gotta give this episode a 3.5 outta a possible 5.

[mikey2007]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

It was just waaaaaay to silly.
Oh well can't like em' all.
I give this Episode a D-

lol did u see the commercial before it that said "....now with 3x the slapstick comedy"? lol that pretty much explains that they are goin for comedy now and not much of anything else, it was alright, but not as good as the past few weeks like the pretty much everyone else said

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

It was just waaaaaay to silly.
Oh well can't like em' all.
I give this Episode a D-

"That's enough...that's entirely too silly!"

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

Well, Let's see where to begin...this episode fell flat on it's face to me.

It was just waaaaaay to silly.
Oh well can't like em' all.
I give this Episode a D-

So, darling... Should I not even attempt this one?

[X]

Jester, you're not alone. I stated on page 1 I liked this episode. I didn't get a old toon vibe from it, but that's not a bad thing. I love the old toon, but this did have a lot of comedy and some good action in the episode.

Even if any episode of FF feels like an old toon episode to me, then that's fine.

On a different note, I was rewatching Insane in the Membrane and it reminded me of how cheesy the 2k3 episodes could be. Mikey saying Doctor Stockmanstein, yea that's just a joke ready to fall flat. One of the things I hate about this Turtle series is the comedy cannot compare to the comedy of the old toon and falls flat altogether, well except for a dude hitting a parked car on his bike in Samurai Tourist. The old toons comedy most wouldn't get until they were older, and being older it makes much more sense, which makes the show age well.

-X-

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by X

One of the things I hate about this Turtle series is the comedy cannot compare to the comedy of the old toon and falls flat altogether, well except for a dude hitting a parked car on his bike in Samurai Tourist. The old toons comedy most wouldn't get until they were older, and being older it makes much more sense, which makes the show age well.

-X-

Sorry, but I can't disagree with you more. The old toon comedy, for me, wasn't funny then for the most part... and it's about unbearable now. The 2K3 series had it's moments of being 'too silly'... but think about it. You're saying the 2K3 stuff falls short, but it's (in essence) just like the OT. You remember the OT as being funny because you were a kid, and it's your memories that make it age well. Maybe the jokes in 2K3 are just as funny (they're infinitely funnier, but I'm speaking hypothetically) as OT, but because you are now an adult, you can't find them funny.

...Anyhow, all that to say... Differing opinions, my friend. I think the 2K3 (before this inhumane FF) was quite good (though I would have preferred a tad less childish jokes...) great even.

Now we're regressing.

[Jester]

I dunna Jo. I've rewatched alot of OT episodes (for the guide) and I've caught myself laughing, some of thew jokes work...but then again I like stupid humor.

[LogicDonny]

this episode reminds me of the classic turtles series and how lame and silly most of the episode was.

How did Jammerhead fall in jail? I didn't see the episode.

what happened?

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

How did Jammerhead fall in jail? I didn't see the episode.

He was arrested in "Invasion of the Body Jacker"

[Tinuvielsdreams]

I think the only part I really liked was Master Splinter fighting him he says something along the lines of Jammerhead fighting a true Master...I was like oh yeah!! for a few moments I was happy and then Jammerhead knocked Splinter away and again I was sad for the episode...

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Well...this was more or less a filler ep. All that really happened was that Starlee's folks (is it just me
or does her dad look like Spock?? ) allowed her to stay on earth. Her bro's name is Glaxor. That name sounds
familiar. He's a bit of a kluts. And Starlee's mom... an alien who sounds like she's from New York??

Now I wish we learned exactly what Jammerhead is. Is he a robot or some sort of cyborg??? And why didn't they
ever notice the tracking device on Don's butt???

You know I find it funny when anything that has the slightest hint of character development is called filler.
Oh and BTW Starlee's Mother was a Jewish Stereo Type not a New Yorker.

Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko

To answer Raph's Girl:
I'm beginning to think Jammerhead is a cyborg. I wonder if all the other Street Phantoms are, too...

Well they did show his anatomy today didn't look fully human to me in that scan his head looks mostly robotic.

Originally Posted by Drtooth

These one shots are just so "Blah." I am looking forward to the next episode ONLY if Bishop is in it.

Once again I'll say it's not a one shot the begining alone connects the episode the The Body Jacker episode.
Also that was fotage from the past episode he was in with Torbin Zixx.
So who knows untill Dan updates the site or some one else tells us what it's about.

Originally Posted by JetsAndHeels

This episode was totally a drag and quite frankly a waste of my time. The idea was good, having Jammerhead download all the martial arts techniques and such, but when it all played out it just seemed too goofy for my liking.

That's exactly how I felt also cool Idea executed poorly.

Originally Posted by mumbo230

"What's with the masks? Are you hanging out with criminals? Did you join a cult?"

There were quite a few "funny" lines in the episode I agree but I couldn't enjoy them with how annoyed I was by Jammerheads voice and Starlee's little brother.

Originally Posted by Jester

Am I alone in liking this episode? yeah it did feel like a OT episode, but I loved the 80's show...so it doesn't bother me much. I also liked that line from Starlee's mom. "Did you join a cult?" had me rolling. I also liked Splinter going toe-to-toe with Jammerhead. Thought I'm not a big fan of the character, this seemed to be a good way to show he's not just some filler villain. Serling was actually funny and no "It's Ninja Time!" so I've gotta give this episode a 3.5 outta a possible 5.

You gave it a 3.5 out of 5 but you say you like it...to me liking an episode is 4 or 5 out of 5.
I love the 80's toon as well but this just came off as trying to be the 80's toon to me and not actully like an episode of the 80's toon understand where I'm coming from?
Like I said before that seriously was the best part of the episode Splinter would seem to be back to himself again but only time will tell.
Well I'm glad some one saw that this was connected to the past.
I like Serling and all but what did he say that was so "funny"

Originally Posted by mikey2007

lol did u see the commercial before it that said "....now with 3x the slapstick comedy"? lol that pretty much explains that they are goin for comedy now and not much of anything else, it was alright, but not as good as the past few weeks like the pretty much everyone else said

Yes I did and my reaction was UGH! I have a stomach flu and that made me feel even worse!
And you know it's pretty back if I didn't like it hahah

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

So, darling... Should I not even attempt this one?

Eh well it continues where the "Body Jacker" Episode leaves off.
But Jammerheads voice alone will grate your skin faster than one of shredder blades.
Splinter is back to normal as of this episode I think unless you count that happening in "graduation day".
Starlee's family reminded me so much of the Palerasoids from the old toon so much it wasn't even funny.
So if you haven't liked anything thus far including last weeks episode "Timing Is Everything" you're really not going to like this.
But hey I could be wrong seems people are coming out from the wood work and enjoying this one.
The Start of the episode is good and so is the end. We haven't seen an ending that was done that way since early on in the 2k3 series.

Originally Posted by X

Jester, you're not alone. I stated on page 1 I liked this episode. I didn't get a old toon vibe from it, but that's not a bad thing. I love the old toon, but this did have a lot of comedy and some good action in the episode.
Even if any episode of FF feels like an old toon episode to me, then that's fine.
On a different note, I was rewatching Insane in the Membrane and it reminded me of how cheesy the 2k3 episodes could be. Mikey saying Doctor Stockmanstein, yea that's just a joke ready to fall flat. One of the things I hate about this Turtle series is the comedy cannot compare to the comedy of the old toon and falls flat altogether, well except for a dude hitting a parked car on his bike in Samurai Tourist. The old toons comedy most wouldn't get until they were older, and being older it makes much more sense, which makes the show age well.
-X-

While the old Toon is great and admittedly very funny I don't think humor really has much of a place in the 2k3 Toon.
And I really don't see what you're saying about Insane In the Membrane one of my favorite episodes btw it also gave so much Depth to Baxter.

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Sorry, but I can't disagree with you more. The old toon comedy, for me, wasn't funny then for the most part... and it's about unbearable now. The 2K3 series had it's moments of being 'too silly'... but think about it. You're saying the 2K3 stuff falls short, but it's (in essence) just like the OT. You remember the OT as being funny because you were a kid, and it's your memories that make it age well. Maybe the jokes in 2K3 are just as funny (they're infinitely funnier, but I'm speaking hypothetically) as OT, but because you are now an adult, you can't find them funny.

...Anyhow, all that to say... Differing opinions, my friend. I think the 2K3 (before this inhumane FF) was quite good (though I would have preferred a tad less childish jokes...) great even.

Now we're regressing.

I don't know Jo I really found Mikey just as annoying with his lame jokes in 2k3 just as much as I do in FF He's my least favorite character from the turtles return in 2003.
Also I agree to a point but I do find it funny when Krang, Shredder or anyone else for that matter would make a joke about it actually being a show as well as Raphael's constant cornball jokes but I guess you sort of have to be a cornball yourself to get that.
I do get tired of everyone comparing and contrasting so much though I mean sure I've done it with this episode today myself.
But All of the turtles things we've ever gotten are sooooo different from one another I don't even see how anyone could compare one show to another.
Same goes for all of the comic books.
While not all of these things we've been given have been great I think it's awesome that we've had so many different incarnations of the TMNT over the years to pick and choose from.
BTW there are plenty of jokes on the Old Toon that went over my head as a kid that really make me laugh now as an adult.
Everyone's just different.

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

He was arrested in "Invasion of the Body Jacker"

exactly proof that this isn't a "filler" episode.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Sorry, but I can't disagree with you more. The old toon comedy, for me, wasn't funny then for the most part... and it's about unbearable now. The 2K3 series had it's moments of being 'too silly'... but think about it. You're saying the 2K3 stuff falls short, but it's (in essence) just like the OT. You remember the OT as being funny because you were a kid, and it's your memories that make it age well.

Nope, I can still laugh at the jokes more than the crappy ones in the new series, and that's NOT due to it being the first series, memories, loyalty, etc, it just IS funnier than the new series.

I do hope one day people would stop using this narrow-minded argument that people's memories are the only reason the original is superior in certain ways, it just devalues their opinion, their credibility, and makes those there addressing ignore them utterly.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Nope, I can still laugh at the jokes more than the crappy ones in the new series, and that's NOT due to it being the first series, memories, loyalty, etc, it just IS funnier than the new series.
I do hope one day people would stop using this narrow-minded argument that people's memories are the only reason the original is superior in certain ways, it just devalues their opinion, their credibility, and makes those there addressing ignore them utterly.

I agree I actually find the Old Toon allot more funny now than I did as a kid I don't ever remember laughing once as a kid I was just into how action packed the show was and the theme music that played got my friends and I so excited as kids.
And it's Pretty much the same excuse being used for this show believe it to be rubbish if you want that's fine and all but I don't really think it's right to do so until the series has ended or at least gets past the first 2 seasons.
I mean you thought I was saying things just for the sake of saying them and to be difficult. As you can see with today's episode I don't like everything but I still like to give a decent look at everything.
Giving the good and bad sadly this episode was more bad than anything else.