The Turtles' first words - Page 2

*triplexxx* · 05-14-2007, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

Kids aren't interested in pre school ninja turtles.

If we want to go into the logic of the show, Splinter is always about...50 or so(?) after mutation because that's the rat age he was. The old toon turtles may have been the turtle equvilent of teenagers when the ooze hit.

Alternatively, they were man children.

Sounds logical enough.

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

But what for? That wouldn't make any sense at all.

Only reason I thought so was because the Ancient One had already given Splinter his name, and to think the turtles would come up with a name for him right out of the blue and it be the same name he already had is a very unlikely coincidence; in the old toon, they called him Splinter as a nickname with no intentions of replacing or trying to figure out his real name.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 05-14-2007, 08:11 PM

This may just be me but I pictured some Japanese words, I don't know what they would be but that's what I kinda always thought. I am sure they overheard a ton of English and picked it up very naturally. Learning english off the street of NY...Oh my
I think Splinter for sure and very butchered version of each other's names, plus probably names of items or food.

*Sage Ninja* · 05-15-2007, 01:20 AM

in the old toon it is specifically said that the turtles where only babies when they mutated, and that they had childhoods in the Missing Map episode. Also in the episode Michaelangelo meets Mondo Geko it is shown that Mondo Geko was also in the mutagent when they where exposed, and that he grew from being a child to a teenager, which means years passed between the time all the turtles where exposed to the mutatgent and the time we see them as teenagers.

*odupianist* · 05-15-2007, 06:54 AM

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How did they know Splinter's name, BTW?

In one of the first episodes of the OT, Splinter mentions how the turtles gave him that name (it was in a flashback, probably to April). How they knew it in the 2k3 and movie timelines, I don't know.

johnnyblaze · 05-15-2007, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

in the old toon it is specifically said that the turtles where only babies when they mutated, and that they had childhoods in the Missing Map episode. Also in the episode Michaelangelo meets Mondo Geko it is shown that Mondo Geko was also in the mutagent when they where exposed, and that he grew from being a child to a teenager, which means years passed between the time all the turtles where exposed to the mutatgent and the time we see them as teenagers.

the cartoon contradicted theselves from the get go when it comes to that. I don't think there was any right answer to the entire childhood debate when it comes to the OT turtles because of that. I mean yes, they said those things in the episodes you talked about but that doesn't change the fact that we saw that they became teenagers seconds after being introduced to the mutagen.

*odupianist* · 05-15-2007, 10:59 AM

In the flashback portion of the story, I'm guessing they just sped up the mutation for time restriction purposes, not to say that they mutated that quickly.

jenna · 05-15-2007, 12:27 PM

Also, in Back to the Egg, they reverted back to an earlier form, not normal turltes but mutant turlte kiddie-winks..... so cuuuuute

*Coola Yagami* · 05-15-2007, 01:45 PM

True, but it makes sense in a way. The TMNT mutated into full-grown teenagers from the get-go in the old show, but think of the other mutants. If every mutant were to start out as a baby/child/teenager, how long would it take to introduce the Punk Frogs, Leatherhead, Groundchuk, Dirtbag, Slash and all the other animal mutants? Shredder would have created a new mutant to rival the turtles and then.... uh..... sit around and wait until it grew into adolescence??

Shredder- Bebop, Rocksteady! Baby Slash made a mess again! Clean him up!
Bebop- awww again???
Rocksteady- duhh... maybe da boss shoulda stuck wit' just mutating more punks like us....
Krang *at baby groundchuk and baby dirtbag' which one of you two was fiddling around with the tv remote again???

*Scandia* · 05-15-2007, 02:14 PM

Leatherhead was an adult when he mutated. Ditto for Bebop and Rocksteady. The frogs were already in their form with legs- in other words, adults. But the Turtles were babies when Chet dropped them and Splinter found them. They did the fast transition in the first episode as part of the explanation to April.

Swany · 05-15-2007, 03:24 PM

Ha, the magic of time lapse photography!

jenna · 05-16-2007, 01:07 AM

The problem with the OT is that it is known to have made a number of errors, both in the animation and through contradicting itself in narratives (eg Krang lost his body, but in the episode where he narrates a flash-back there are lots of Krangs in his present form, (one with a moustache!) and we later find out as I recall what Krang's original body was (although I can;t remember it)). I think the OT has to be taken with a pinch of salt and our imaginations allowed to fill in the gaps. The turtles were shown to mutate instantly into their present size, but it was later confirmed they were kids as well. I just shrug off the mutation sequence and picture them as little tots!

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05-15-2007, 03:24 PM	#30
Swany Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Near Glasgow. Scotland Posts: 924	Ha, the magic of time lapse photography! __________________

05-14-2007, 08:11 PM	#22
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	This may just be me but I pictured some Japanese words, I don't know what they would be but that's what I kinda always thought. I am sure they overheard a ton of English and picked it up very naturally. Learning english off the street of NY...Oh my I think Splinter for sure and very butchered version of each other's names, plus probably names of items or food.

05-15-2007, 10:59 AM	#26
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	In the flashback portion of the story, I'm guessing they just sped up the mutation for time restriction purposes, not to say that they mutated that quickly.

05-15-2007, 12:27 PM	#27
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	Also, in Back to the Egg, they reverted back to an earlier form, not normal turltes but mutant turlte kiddie-winks..... so cuuuuute

05-15-2007, 01:45 PM	#28
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,659	True, but it makes sense in a way. The TMNT mutated into full-grown teenagers from the get-go in the old show, but think of the other mutants. If every mutant were to start out as a baby/child/teenager, how long would it take to introduce the Punk Frogs, Leatherhead, Groundchuk, Dirtbag, Slash and all the other animal mutants? Shredder would have created a new mutant to rival the turtles and then.... uh..... sit around and wait until it grew into adolescence?? Shredder- Bebop, Rocksteady! Baby Slash made a mess again! Clean him up! Bebop- awww again??? Rocksteady- duhh... maybe da boss shoulda stuck wit' just mutating more punks like us.... Krang *at baby groundchuk and baby dirtbag' which one of you two was fiddling around with the tv remote again???

05-15-2007, 02:14 PM	#29
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Leatherhead was an adult when he mutated. Ditto for Bebop and Rocksteady. The frogs were already in their form with legs- in other words, adults. But the Turtles were babies when Chet dropped them and Splinter found them. They did the fast transition in the first episode as part of the explanation to April.

05-16-2007, 01:07 AM	#31
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	The problem with the OT is that it is known to have made a number of errors, both in the animation and through contradicting itself in narratives (eg Krang lost his body, but in the episode where he narrates a flash-back there are lots of Krangs in his present form, (one with a moustache!) and we later find out as I recall what Krang's original body was (although I can;t remember it)). I think the OT has to be taken with a pinch of salt and our imaginations allowed to fill in the gaps. The turtles were shown to mutate instantly into their present size, but it was later confirmed they were kids as well. I just shrug off the mutation sequence and picture them as little tots!