Am I WIERD - Page 2

Zenrick · 04-07-2003, 11:31 AM

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So Zenrick, do you think EVERYTHING what's done by the American government is great? Or do you think Bush wants to free Iraq because he's such a nice person? You're a bit naive aren't you?

the US gov't. is a bunch of BS. Bush wants to free Iraq 'cause its a POS country and they've gone too far with their camps and all. Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need. Because you have your assumptions on his behavior and personality doesnt make them so, the same goes for my case....except mine is a LITTLE easier to prove than what you might have to say. If you dont like Bush or what he stands for by all means go kick it with Saddam. He might be a 'nice' person.

**Barkworm** · 04-07-2003, 12:00 PM

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You're a bit naive aren't you?

I guess the answer is "YES"!
Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

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Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need.

Whole Africa is "in need", they have no food, civil wars everywhere, BUT WHO HELPS THEM??? Bush will only "help" countries if he can take personal advantages for himself!
Fortunately not erveryone in the USA follows this ******** blindly like you do but I guess you think great people like Serj Tankian, Michael Moore and Eddie Vedder are traitors...

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-07-2003, 12:32 PM

I agree bark.

Hmmm, Hussein or Bush? I don't know which country I would want to live in, I see no difference to tell you the truth.

*That Matt Guy* · 04-07-2003, 04:05 PM

Well I don't think I would want to live in Iraq, because it has all of those sand storms.

*Raven* · 04-07-2003, 04:12 PM

I would rather live in america
suddam gassed His own people

I guess if you dont like freedom
well there you go.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-07-2003, 05:49 PM

True he gases his own people, but then again 30% of the people that live near Bush are in poverty or homeless....hmmm as well as low taxes doesn't help the government being able to pay for education, medical insurance, social security, etc... Iraq is really rich and isn't in debt a few trillion, they can use its money wisely... Nice weather in Iraq, they probly believe in global warming, so they wont be in the flood when we are, in america those damn commercials are so annoying...

to name just a few...

EDIT: Also, America doesn't have all that freedom you may think it has. Only half the people in the U.S can be satisfied during one presidential term, the only real freedom you have is to vote for someone to represent your opinions, but if they dont win, you end up with someone you dont want, you also get partial freedom of speech... Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom?

*Duke* · 04-07-2003, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by barkworm

Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

OK, have you ever read the Old Testament?

Zenrick · 04-07-2003, 07:19 PM

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You're a bit naive aren't you?

I guess the answer is "YES"!
Please stop this "a man of God"-crap! I don't think "God" (no matter of which religion) wants the American army to kill civilians, who have NOTHING to do with this whole mess. So this "Bush fights for God" thing is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

ok what you said is probably the dumbest thing I've ever read. Do you honestly read the news having it say "many civilians killed in desert battle??" Man I honestly shouldnt need to explain this, but obviously some children havent a clue. Did you not read about how Saddam told all of his people to take up arms and attack America in any way?? Is this not a reason to attack their ARMY (no, not civilians)?

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Bush is not a stupid man. He is a man of God who is being used to help countries in need.

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Whole Africa is "in need", they have no food, civil wars everywhere, BUT WHO HELPS THEM??? Bush will only "help" countries if he can take personal advantages for himself!
Fortunately not erveryone in the USA follows this sh** blindly like you do but I guess you think great people like Serj Tankian, Michael Moore and Eddie Vedder are traitors...

hahaha, man you are totally changing the subject. What does Africa have to do with this?? When a country does harm to its own people, thats a bad thing.....Africa is just in poverty no matter what it wont stop.....America doesnt have the money to help them out, they just need to keep wielding their spears and feeding their families....thats fine. And YES I think all celebrities against the war are TRAITORS and shouldnt be allowed the liberty our awesome country has to offer....

*Duke* · 04-07-2003, 07:28 PM

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you also get partial freedom of speech... Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom?

When you stand and throw trash cans at cop cars or in the streets, thats not freedom of speech. When you block government buildings with bodies so people can't go to work, thats not freedom of speech. But America has never and hopefully never will have absolute freedom of Speech. Americans can't go around slandering and committing deflamation of character by lying. And thats a GOOD THING!

BIC Donie · 04-07-2003, 08:02 PM

I cant stand idiots who think they know anything about God. I dont care about false gods in any religion. I care about the one true God who our President depends on.

The most powerful man on earth ever morning before doing anything else bows his head, falls on his knees and prays to God.

And this God is not made by man, and is not described by man. He describes himself and has shown himslef through is revelation which has been written and kept for over 4000 years.

And if one idiot would read His revelation they would understand Him. God uses His chosen to take down evil. He has also placed authorities with swords to kill and destroy. If you want references top His revelation and can give them, but you being philosopoopers and all should have probubly covered that part already. You know so much that you have forgotten the basics.

I am proud to be an American, and people who are not should go get gasssed for all I care. And who bases the iraquies prosperity on the Presidents work? talk about nothing to do with. I see illegal Mexicans working and they get good money. But what do iraques do thats what I want to know.

You know why we dont have have complete freedom of speech. Because there are some idiots that I will not mention except that his BACK is hurting that say the stupidist things and no one wants to hear or know how stupid can people actually be.

Freedom? What do you want two presidents? If there are 290,674,115 Americans and you call that freedom we would have 290,674,115 Presidents. And if we had that type of freedom you would surely be dead because I would kill you. Stupid people shouldn't be aloud to live.

*That Matt Guy* · 04-07-2003, 08:07 PM

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Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom?

So you call attacking cops and causing riots and vandalizing property protesting war?

*Duke* · 04-07-2003, 08:07 PM

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I am proud to be an American

Where at least I know I'm free.

Zenrick · 04-07-2003, 08:11 PM

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I am proud to be an American

Where at least I know I'm free.

And I wont forget the men who died

*Duke* · 04-07-2003, 08:12 PM

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I am proud to be an American

Where at least I know I'm free.

And I wont forget the men who died

Who gave that right to me

**Barkworm** · 04-08-2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke

OK, have you ever read the Old Testament?

Have you ever read the New Testament? Believe me, my parents were/are strict catholics and I don't think they or any priest I have met in my life (and those were a lot) have ever taught me that "evil" should be punished by killing people. I guess noone of you really got what Jesus was supposed to die for. I would never say that Christian religion is totally great because it was too many times mistreated by people who claimed they "fought for god" like Bush does now but he DOES NOT. It makes me angry when the message of peace is raped in this way.
This is my last post concerning the Iraq war because there is no point in discussing this with people who not even try to understand that people have absolutely no right to say they are fulfilling God's wishes by using violence. Besides, my home is Germany, most people here got what this war is about, so the whole war-thing shouldn't be of my business. It just makes me angry...
P.S. Zenrick, your post just shows that you don't know anything about Africa at all.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 04-08-2003, 04:59 AM

Nah Matt, I call it civil disobediance, the most effective and legal way to protest.

Yea, stupid people shouldn't be allowed to live, heh, then both regimes would be gone by now........but then again, without stupid people how can you define smartness?

Fraggle · 04-08-2003, 08:08 AM

ok u guys just calm down all this to do witha piece of imamgation to get away from the war. (geez)
Anyway the next issue of the NINJITSU GAZETTE eg to do with issue 2
is already in my head the main tilte is GREAT CATCH BY FLYING MUTANT
and my othert headline is RAPH LIKES LITTLE MARSHMELLOWS IN HOT CHOCLATE

P.S (off topic) i finally got a post thats more then 1 page (yahoooo)

*Nickokapo* · 04-08-2003, 08:35 AM

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in my head the main tilte is GREAT CATCH BY FLYING ALIEN
and my othert headline is RAPH LIKES LITTLE MARSHMELLOWS IN HOT CHOCLATE

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You know fraggle, i'm seriously starting to worry about your mental health

But if this makes you happy then keep posting it or whatever

i'm sick of war myself already so i understand.

*The Defibrillator* · 04-08-2003, 08:52 AM

first of all, Zenrick, BIC Donnie, and Duke are my new heros.

second, this war is NOT about personal gain for Bush. What does he get from this? only a buncha stupid people that hate him and proclaim to want peace!

the reason for the war is to eradicate forces that have the potential power to kill THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of innocent people, American, Iraqi, or otherwise. Saddam, the Iraqi regime, and other networks, have used these weapons before and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't stop to do it again.

barkworm was talkin about the bible and war. believe it or not, there ARE times when God was in favor of war. When it is for a good cause (like preventing the deaths of thousands of innocent people) war can be a good thing, or it will have been a good thing after it is over.

I don't like war more than anybody else here, and I hope this ends soon, but it still has to happen sometime.

And Tokka, you have got to be pretty stupid to think that it would be better in Iraq than here in America. You say America barely has any freedom. before this war, Saddam controlled EVERYTHING in Iraq. That means the TV, radio, and practically everything else you can think of. On the other hand, here in America, we have more freedom than any other country IN THE WORLD! Go live in China for a while. You have no experience as to what it is like outside of america, so you think it's a dump here. seriously man, here we really are blessed.

Proud to be an American!

Fraggle · 04-08-2003, 09:13 AM

thankyou Nickokapo i've never been so hounered im my entire life also i am going to see a psycrisast because of my problems.

this will proberly be me on the couch well not atcully on the couch but hiding behind

04-07-2003, 04:12 PM	#25
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	I would rather live in america suddam gassed His own people I guess if you dont like freedom well there you go. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

04-07-2003, 08:02 PM	#30
BIC Donie Random Punk Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 41	I cant stand idiots who think they know anything about God. I dont care about false gods in any religion. I care about the one true God who our President depends on. The most powerful man on earth ever morning before doing anything else bows his head, falls on his knees and prays to God. And this God is not made by man, and is not described by man. He describes himself and has shown himslef through is revelation which has been written and kept for over 4000 years. And if one idiot would read His revelation they would understand Him. God uses His chosen to take down evil. He has also placed authorities with swords to kill and destroy. If you want references top His revelation and can give them, but you being philosopoopers and all should have probubly covered that part already. You know so much that you have forgotten the basics. I am proud to be an American, and people who are not should go get gasssed for all I care. And who bases the iraquies prosperity on the Presidents work? talk about nothing to do with. I see illegal Mexicans working and they get good money. But what do iraques do thats what I want to know. You know why we dont have have complete freedom of speech. Because there are some idiots that I will not mention except that his BACK is hurting that say the stupidist things and no one wants to hear or know how stupid can people actually be. Freedom? What do you want two presidents? If there are 290,674,115 Americans and you call that freedom we would have 290,674,115 Presidents. And if we had that type of freedom you would surely be dead because I would kill you. Stupid people shouldn't be aloud to live. __________________ DONIE RULES....VIVA MEXICO!!!

04-08-2003, 08:08 AM	#37
Fraggle Thug Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: England,UK Posts: 69	ok u guys just calm down all this to do witha piece of imamgation to get away from the war. (geez) Anyway the next issue of the NINJITSU GAZETTE eg to do with issue 2 is already in my head the main tilte is GREAT CATCH BY FLYING MUTANT and my othert headline is RAPH LIKES LITTLE MARSHMELLOWS IN HOT CHOCLATE P.S (off topic) i finally got a post thats more then 1 page (yahoooo) __________________ I'm Proud To Be Christian it Changed my Life !!!

04-08-2003, 08:52 AM	#39
The Defibrillator Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dee Eff Dubble You Posts: 1,631	first of all, Zenrick, BIC Donnie, and Duke are my new heros. second, this war is NOT about personal gain for Bush. What does he get from this? only a buncha stupid people that hate him and proclaim to want peace! the reason for the war is to eradicate forces that have the potential power to kill THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of innocent people, American, Iraqi, or otherwise. Saddam, the Iraqi regime, and other networks, have used these weapons before and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't stop to do it again. barkworm was talkin about the bible and war. believe it or not, there ARE times when God was in favor of war. When it is for a good cause (like preventing the deaths of thousands of innocent people) war can be a good thing, or it will have been a good thing after it is over. I don't like war more than anybody else here, and I hope this ends soon, but it still has to happen sometime. And Tokka, you have got to be pretty stupid to think that it would be better in Iraq than here in America. You say America barely has any freedom. before this war, Saddam controlled EVERYTHING in Iraq. That means the TV, radio, and practically everything else you can think of. On the other hand, here in America, we have more freedom than any other country IN THE WORLD! Go live in China for a while. You have no experience as to what it is like outside of america, so you think it's a dump here. seriously man, here we really are blessed. Proud to be an American! __________________ My newest signature.

04-08-2003, 09:13 AM	#40
Fraggle Thug Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: England,UK Posts: 69	thankyou Nickokapo i've never been so hounered im my entire life also i am going to see a psycrisast because of my problems. this will proberly be me on the couch well not atcully on the couch but hiding behind __________________ I'm Proud To Be Christian it Changed my Life !!!

04-07-2003, 12:32 PM	#23
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	I agree bark. Hmmm, Hussein or Bush? I don't know which country I would want to live in, I see no difference to tell you the truth.

04-07-2003, 04:05 PM	#24
That Matt Guy Honey Bunches Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Lone Star State Posts: 5,840	Well I don't think I would want to live in Iraq, because it has all of those sand storms.

04-07-2003, 05:49 PM	#26
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	True he gases his own people, but then again 30% of the people that live near Bush are in poverty or homeless....hmmm as well as low taxes doesn't help the government being able to pay for education, medical insurance, social security, etc... Iraq is really rich and isn't in debt a few trillion, they can use its money wisely... Nice weather in Iraq, they probly believe in global warming, so they wont be in the flood when we are, in america those damn commercials are so annoying... to name just a few... EDIT: Also, America doesn't have all that freedom you may think it has. Only half the people in the U.S can be satisfied during one presidential term, the only real freedom you have is to vote for someone to represent your opinions, but if they dont win, you end up with someone you dont want, you also get partial freedom of speech... Heck, I have seen 500 people get arrested for protesting the war, how's that for freedom?

04-08-2003, 04:59 AM	#36
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Nah Matt, I call it civil disobediance, the most effective and legal way to protest. Yea, stupid people shouldn't be allowed to live, heh, then both regimes would be gone by now........but then again, without stupid people how can you define smartness?