With all the OT influence, is it safe to say Baxter will be mutated into a fly? - Page 2

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 09:54 PM

I'm surprised that people want there to be as much OT as there is. I mean IDW seems pretty OT oriented and this looks to be aimed in the same direction. I'd like to see this be its own beast. I mean of course it can't ever be fully because it is coming after the original run of turtlemania. What if Baxter just stayed human? Would that be so bad?

Genesis · 07-15-2012, 10:12 PM

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I'm surprised that people want there to be as much OT as there is... I'd like to see this be its own beast.

Quoted for Truth.

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What if Baxter just stayed human? Would that be so bad?

Absolutely not.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2012, 10:19 PM

Baxter staying human is incredibly boring. He's just a generic mad scientist until something terrible happens to him.

Genesis · 07-15-2012, 10:26 PM

I used to feel that way, too. I mainly knew Baxter as a fly when I was a kid, so seeing and thinking of him as human felt weird to me. Over time, especially after getting into Eastman and Laird's comics and absolutely loving his 2003 incarnation, my preference has changed.

He still is at his core a character on whom horrible misfortune befalls, so I get where you're coming from. I just think that it doesn't always need to be the fly mutation.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 10:28 PM

I just don't see the appeal of having the exact same thing happen again. I mean if I read a book and love it I don't want the next book to just be the same but with a new title.

Baxter hasn't ever been able to just be human. I say it is time we just let him be this time around.

*CyberCubed* · 07-15-2012, 10:32 PM

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I just don't see the appeal of having the exact same thing happen again. I mean if I read a book and love it I don't want the next book to just be the same but with a new title.

Baxter hasn't ever been able to just be human. I say it is time we just let him be this time around.

Because its a staple of the character. Would you rather Baxter get mutated into some other type of mutant? I'd say hell no. We don't need Baxter to become a mutant Lion or gorilla or something.

Since we already know Baxter wears cyborg armor to fight the turtles, it seems like we could get both incarnations here. He wears robot armor to battle the Turtles for awhile and could get mutated into a fly later on.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 10:37 PM

My point is though that he doesn't need to mutate or lose his body until he becomes a cyborg. He could just be a normal guy. I don't know why people are so keen on doing the same thing over and over.

Take The Dark Knight and Batman. Both had the Joker and did their own thing with the character. It wasn't just a carbon copy. That's what makes both of them great.

**Jester** · 07-15-2012, 10:44 PM

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Take The Dark Knight and Batman. Both had the Joker and did their own thing with the character. It wasn't just a carbon copy. That's what makes both of them great.

True, but there is still things that make the character the character, and sadly part of what makes Baxter Baxter is a tragic disfigurement.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 10:50 PM

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True, but there is still things that make the character the character, and sadly part of what makes Baxter Baxter is a tragic disfigurement.

Yeah I know, but I'd like to see him just be Baxter for a while. We don't need him to mutate him in the first season. Maybe it would be great to just let him develop a little before he is tragically disfigured.

**Jester** · 07-15-2012, 10:54 PM

It would help the tragic disfigurement all the more tragic.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 11:00 PM

it would be cool maybe if he started to have a change or hart and then something happened to him. Like he gets disfigured while trying to save the Turtles.

**Jester** · 07-15-2012, 11:11 PM

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it would be cool maybe if he started to have a change or hart and then something happened to him. Like he gets disfigured while trying to save the Turtles.

And thus blames them for his tragic disfigurement?

Sorry, it just reminds me of Lost Skeleton of Cadavera.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 11:15 PM

Not blame them, but maybe they blame themselves and he still joins them. That maybe they try to find a cure for him.

Genesis · 07-15-2012, 11:23 PM

I'm hoping for a more developed rivalry between Baxter and Donatello. Simple as a concept, but I've never felt it was properly explored.

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 11:29 PM

Yes exactly. Having them have a rivalry would be great. It would be kind of cool if they had a mutual respect for each other before discovering they are enemies.

**Jester** · 07-15-2012, 11:32 PM

I dunna....I mean, a man with an assumed doctorate and a teenage mutant prodigy doesn't seem like a gripping rivalry.

*Allio* · 07-15-2012, 11:33 PM

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You thought that was one of the weakest point of the OT? Are you joking? Baxter being a fly was one of the most popular aspects of the series.

Sorry, I just didn't like it

of course, I felt that his episodes were repetitive any way...but whatever...

I say give the next Baxter a new gimmick...

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 11:37 PM

Merge him with Bebop

Genesis · 07-15-2012, 11:41 PM

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Merge him with Bebop

Haha, or plant his brain into Metalhead, so he can be another "Turtle."

*Cowabunga Carl* · 07-15-2012, 11:49 PM

Make him what he hates.

07-15-2012, 10:26 PM	#24
Genesis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 624	I used to feel that way, too. I mainly knew Baxter as a fly when I was a kid, so seeing and thinking of him as human felt weird to me. Over time, especially after getting into Eastman and Laird's comics and absolutely loving his 2003 incarnation, my preference has changed. He still is at his core a character on whom horrible misfortune befalls, so I get where you're coming from. I just think that it doesn't always need to be the fly mutation. __________________ "Kage-Maru embodies the ninja philosophy through his elusiveness, deception, and mobility. A single false move can lose the game, and it is this knife-edge strategy that makes Kage exciting to play and fearsome to play against."

07-15-2012, 10:54 PM	#30
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	It would help the tragic disfigurement all the more tragic. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-15-2012, 11:23 PM	#34
Genesis Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 624	I'm hoping for a more developed rivalry between Baxter and Donatello. Simple as a concept, but I've never felt it was properly explored. __________________ "Kage-Maru embodies the ninja philosophy through his elusiveness, deception, and mobility. A single false move can lose the game, and it is this knife-edge strategy that makes Kage exciting to play and fearsome to play against." Last edited by Genesis; 07-15-2012 at 11:39 PM.

07-15-2012, 11:32 PM	#36
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	I dunna....I mean, a man with an assumed doctorate and a teenage mutant prodigy doesn't seem like a gripping rivalry. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

07-15-2012, 09:54 PM	#21
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I'm surprised that people want there to be as much OT as there is. I mean IDW seems pretty OT oriented and this looks to be aimed in the same direction. I'd like to see this be its own beast. I mean of course it can't ever be fully because it is coming after the original run of turtlemania. What if Baxter just stayed human? Would that be so bad?

07-15-2012, 10:19 PM	#23
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,829	Baxter staying human is incredibly boring. He's just a generic mad scientist until something terrible happens to him.

07-15-2012, 10:28 PM	#25
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	I just don't see the appeal of having the exact same thing happen again. I mean if I read a book and love it I don't want the next book to just be the same but with a new title. Baxter hasn't ever been able to just be human. I say it is time we just let him be this time around.

07-15-2012, 10:37 PM	#27
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	My point is though that he doesn't need to mutate or lose his body until he becomes a cyborg. He could just be a normal guy. I don't know why people are so keen on doing the same thing over and over. Take The Dark Knight and Batman. Both had the Joker and did their own thing with the character. It wasn't just a carbon copy. That's what makes both of them great.

07-15-2012, 11:00 PM	#31
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	it would be cool maybe if he started to have a change or hart and then something happened to him. Like he gets disfigured while trying to save the Turtles.

07-15-2012, 11:15 PM	#33
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Not blame them, but maybe they blame themselves and he still joins them. That maybe they try to find a cure for him.

07-15-2012, 11:29 PM	#35
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Yes exactly. Having them have a rivalry would be great. It would be kind of cool if they had a mutual respect for each other before discovering they are enemies.

07-15-2012, 11:37 PM	#38
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Merge him with Bebop

07-15-2012, 11:49 PM	#40
Cowabunga Carl Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Salt Lake City Posts: 2,384	Make him what he hates.