Various things about the villains you wish were expanded upon - Page 2

*ToTheNines* · 12-10-2012, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

But what does he actually do in his time off? He doesn't just sit in his evil throne room with his armor on 24/7, does he?

Trains? Spends time with his daughter? Plays with Hachiko? Listens to Boyz 2 Men on cassette?

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Ever since the show began I've been praying for this to be true.

Ever since the show began? Try early 2011 pal...

Vivi · 12-10-2012, 10:03 PM

I've been speculating a little on the Kraang and can't exactly come up with a solid theory for the mutagen but it's worth noting:

-They have been working on the mutagen for at least 15 years (when the turtles mutated, assuming they aged in real time), and have been present since at least Splinter was human.

-In one episode they wanted to taint the water supply with the mutagen, so it can be considered an end product, not a by product (or possibly a by product of another experiment that they have found a use for). This is a fast and efficient delivery method.

-If the intention was to get the diluted mutagen to be consumed, then there is an interest on behalf of the Kraang in the end results - which we know are mutated beings.

- And at this point I'm not sure why the Kraang wanted a bunch of mutated humans. Maybe to build an army? Subdue to them to become slaves? Or even use their bodies as hosts?

*CyberCubed* · 12-10-2012, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Trains? Spends time with his daughter? Plays with Hachiko? Listens to Boyz 2 Men on cassette?

They should actually show his off-time. And I do find it odd that Shredder's, "daughter" hasn't been mentioned whatsoever since the show began. I thought it was going to be a big deal with the way Shredder's bio says he loves her, but she hasn't been seen or mentioned. Same for Splinter's daughter...who is probably the same character to be honest.

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Ever since the show began? Try early 2011 pal...

I just can't see why Nick would not want to use Krang himself...I just hope they're saving him for later on.

**Jester** · 12-10-2012, 11:27 PM

yes, in a show called Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles we wanna see how Shredder spends his free time. That'll be exciting!

Again, we have the Kraang and not "the" Krang because this is a different world and not a freakin' rehash of what came before it. Again, let the Nick show use the Kraang how they want, not how YOU want.

AnarkyLantern · 12-10-2012, 11:36 PM

The Shredder rents japanese tv shows from HQ video in midtown.

Bradford went to an all boys high school where they all had to wear blazers.

Baxter Stockman didn't buy a pink sweater, it's just a red one faded from being washed too often and maybe from originally being dyed on the cheap.

Xever is most dangerous and unpredictable when he's at a disadvantage.

*ToTheNines* · 12-11-2012, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

And I do find it odd that Shredder's, "daughter" hasn't been mentioned whatsoever since the show began. I thought it was going to be a big deal with the way Shredder's bio says he loves her, but she hasn't been seen or mentioned. Same for Splinter's daughter...who is probably the same character to be honest.

Well Karai's appearing 4 episodes after the Leatherhead one, if not sooner.

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I just can't see why Nick would not want to use Krang himself...

Just because you can't see why doesn't mean there's not a good reason why.

*CyberCubed* · 12-11-2012, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Just because you can't see why doesn't mean there's not a good reason why.

Krang is the second most recognizable TMNT villain after the Shredder. Everyone knows who Krang is which gives Nick incentive to use him.

With no Peter Laird holding them back, there's no reason he shouldn't show up. I'm still holding out that he comes around later as the leader of the Kraang. Krang himself will of course be very intelligent and not speak the way the Kraang do.

*ToTheNines* · 12-11-2012, 10:56 AM

I wish I could slap you like Mr. Crankshaw.

*BubblyShell22* · 12-11-2012, 11:25 AM

I second that, Nines.

As for Shredder's daughter, she will show up in an episode this season, so we'll learn more about her then. I'm willing to wait for that since we get Leatherhead this Saturday, which should be good.

*NinjaMan* · 12-11-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

I second that, Nines.

As for Shredder's daughter, she will show up in an episode this season, so we'll learn more about her then. I'm willing to wait for that since we get Leatherhead this Saturday, which should be good.

I third it. Dudes' post are annoying.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-11-2012, 03:03 PM

He kinda has a point though, so I don't see where all the hate is coming from. What DOES Shredder do when he's not Shredder?

I mean we even get to see Bradford and Xever talk a bit when Xever was buying the fish during their off time. Yes, it was plot convenience so he can touch the fish, but it was still them discussing what they're gonna do since Shredder is pissed at them. On their down time.

Out of all the characters, the Shredder does seem to be the most cartoonish. Hopefully when Karai appears we get to see her train with her 'father' or whatever. Just anything except sitting and yelling empty threats all the time.

*CyberCubed* · 12-11-2012, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Out of all the characters, the Shredder does seem to be the most cartoonish. Hopefully when Karai appears we get to see her train with her 'father' or whatever. Just anything except sitting and yelling empty threats all the time.

Indeed, he's coming off as a bit too one-dimensional at this point. It was fine for the first few episodes but he really has to develop.

Even Ch'rell had a life outside of being Shredder. What they did with him in Season 3 was phenomenal.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-11-2012, 07:17 PM

Exactly. We don't mean waste half the episode of Shredder doing his day-to-day like some of you people are thinking. A real quick scene of him doing anything would help.

Does he even have Hachiko anymore? Seems like he was just there for that one scene just so that Bradford would mutate into Dogpound. I'd like to see Hachiko growl and snark at Dogpound or something.

*The Stryker* · 12-11-2012, 08:26 PM

Thing is. Nobody cares besides you two.

It's a cartoon for children. It's like wondering how the Teletubbies afford their hill house in that part of town. It doesn't matter.

*CyberCubed* · 12-11-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Stryker

Thing is. Nobody cares besides you two.

It's a cartoon for children. It's like wondering how the Teletubbies afford their hill house in that part of town. It doesn't matter.

Being a cartoon for children doesn't mean villains have to be one-dimensional and, "I am EVIL JUST BECAUSE I'M EVIL."

See Batman: TAS, Gargoyles, etc.

The only reason it worked for the original toon was because it was a comedy and Shredder was a goofball.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-11-2012, 09:51 PM

True, but the OT had Shredder live in the Technodrome. He would basically spend his time either scheming or arguing with Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady.

Here Shredder is just walking around asking his men 'are the Turtles dead yet? did you find Yoshi yet?' every once in a while. Shredder got the awesomeness and the skill to be a threat. Now add something to flesh him out as a character.

I kinda don't understand why noone else 'cares'. Any villian from any other show would be considered boring, one-note, mustache twirling and one-dimensional, if all they did was sit and complain to his minions. How come Shredder gets a free pass?

*ToTheNines* · 12-11-2012, 10:02 PM

He doesn't. But he's only been featured in 5 episodes... So we can just use our imaginations for the time being. Bring this back up when season one is over.

Or don't

*Cure* · 12-11-2012, 10:08 PM

I vote for "or don't".

*CyberCubed* · 12-11-2012, 10:10 PM

This might become the most one-dimensional version of Shredder in the franchise then. Shame because the backstory has potential.

**Jester** · 12-11-2012, 10:19 PM

Gah, he's been in what 5 of the 11 episodes...simmer down. You're worse than people who think the end of the world is coming at the end of the month.

12-10-2012, 11:27 PM	#24
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,297	yes, in a show called Teenage Mutant Ninja turtles we wanna see how Shredder spends his free time. That'll be exciting! Again, we have the Kraang and not "the" Krang because this is a different world and not a freakin' rehash of what came before it. Again, let the Nick show use the Kraang how they want, not how YOU want. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

12-11-2012, 11:25 AM	#29
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I second that, Nines. As for Shredder's daughter, she will show up in an episode this season, so we'll learn more about her then. I'm willing to wait for that since we get Leatherhead this Saturday, which should be good. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

12-11-2012, 03:03 PM	#31
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	He kinda has a point though, so I don't see where all the hate is coming from. What DOES Shredder do when he's not Shredder? I mean we even get to see Bradford and Xever talk a bit when Xever was buying the fish during their off time. Yes, it was plot convenience so he can touch the fish, but it was still them discussing what they're gonna do since Shredder is pissed at them. On their down time. Out of all the characters, the Shredder does seem to be the most cartoonish. Hopefully when Karai appears we get to see her train with her 'father' or whatever. Just anything except sitting and yelling empty threats all the time. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-11-2012, 07:17 PM	#33
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	Exactly. We don't mean waste half the episode of Shredder doing his day-to-day like some of you people are thinking. A real quick scene of him doing anything would help. Does he even have Hachiko anymore? Seems like he was just there for that one scene just so that Bradford would mutate into Dogpound. I'd like to see Hachiko growl and snark at Dogpound or something. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-11-2012, 08:26 PM	#34
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Thing is. Nobody cares besides you two. It's a cartoon for children. It's like wondering how the Teletubbies afford their hill house in that part of town. It doesn't matter. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

12-10-2012, 10:03 PM	#22
Vivi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ninja HQ, Moon Posts: 1,076	I've been speculating a little on the Kraang and can't exactly come up with a solid theory for the mutagen but it's worth noting: -They have been working on the mutagen for at least 15 years (when the turtles mutated, assuming they aged in real time), and have been present since at least Splinter was human. -In one episode they wanted to taint the water supply with the mutagen, so it can be considered an end product, not a by product (or possibly a by product of another experiment that they have found a use for). This is a fast and efficient delivery method. -If the intention was to get the diluted mutagen to be consumed, then there is an interest on behalf of the Kraang in the end results - which we know are mutated beings. - And at this point I'm not sure why the Kraang wanted a bunch of mutated humans. Maybe to build an army? Subdue to them to become slaves? Or even use their bodies as hosts?

12-10-2012, 11:36 PM	#25
AnarkyLantern Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 154	The Shredder rents japanese tv shows from HQ video in midtown. Bradford went to an all boys high school where they all had to wear blazers. Baxter Stockman didn't buy a pink sweater, it's just a red one faded from being washed too often and maybe from originally being dyed on the cheap. Xever is most dangerous and unpredictable when he's at a disadvantage.

12-11-2012, 10:56 AM	#28
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,236	I wish I could slap you like Mr. Crankshaw.

12-11-2012, 09:51 PM	#36
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,685	True, but the OT had Shredder live in the Technodrome. He would basically spend his time either scheming or arguing with Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady. Here Shredder is just walking around asking his men 'are the Turtles dead yet? did you find Yoshi yet?' every once in a while. Shredder got the awesomeness and the skill to be a threat. Now add something to flesh him out as a character. I kinda don't understand why noone else 'cares'. Any villian from any other show would be considered boring, one-note, mustache twirling and one-dimensional, if all they did was sit and complain to his minions. How come Shredder gets a free pass? __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-11-2012, 10:02 PM	#37
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,236	He doesn't. But he's only been featured in 5 episodes... So we can just use our imaginations for the time being. Bring this back up when season one is over. Or don't

12-11-2012, 10:08 PM	#38
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I vote for "or don't". __________________

12-11-2012, 10:10 PM	#39
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,815	This might become the most one-dimensional version of Shredder in the franchise then. Shame because the backstory has potential.

12-11-2012, 10:19 PM	#40
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,297	Gah, he's been in what 5 of the 11 episodes...simmer down. You're worse than people who think the end of the world is coming at the end of the month. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656