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Old 04-02-2014, 09:06 PM   #21
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look at is this way

as of right now on imdb

Main Human Cast

April O'Neil
William Fichtner
Will Arnett
Minae Noji
Abby Elliott
Whoopi Goldberg
K. Todd Freeman

Turtle Cast

Pete Ploszek
Jeremy Howard
Noel Fisher
Alan Ritchson

Splinter
Danny Woodburn


say what you will but the human cast is clearly where they felt needed the most cast, and the turtles and splinter being second fiddle, they are pretty much nobodies..woodburn i know as the guy from Bones twice and the little dude in a dane cook movie
The only turtle i know is Donatello from breaking bad, where he was a Junky in one episode. So this pretty much confirms who will get more screen time here...
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:09 PM   #22
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Not that I'm aware, too much of an undertaking for me.

But the Turtles in general don't show up til around page 16 or so if memory serves, and that's just Leo, Raph, and Donnie. I think it was a 119 page script.

That's just shy of a two hour movie, which would mean the Turtles, at least 3 of them, don't show up until 16 minutes in. Mikey doesn't show up until about page 20. So all four Turtles aren't even in the movie until about 20 minutes in.

Compared to Ninja Turtles 3 where the Turtles show up in about 2 and a half minutes in a 95 minute movie.

Even Ninja Turtles 3 got to the Turtles faster than the Blue Door script.

The first movie they didn't show up until about 5 minutes, but it did a good job at building atmosphere and setting up the universe they were in. But they STILL showed up 5 minutes in because they're the goddamn stars of the movie.
One action scene in the beginning, then the whole middle section of Casey and April with turtles in the background then another big action scene at the end. That's basically the whole Blue Door script...
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:13 PM   #23
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Doesn't matter which version the human cast is always larger lol and i mean that with all respect.
its not the size of the cast list its the names


Fox,Fichtner,Goldberg, and Arnett are not going to want to play second fiddle to the turtles

actors who have had bit roles most people know nothing about..i honestly have no idea who the Shell Raph and Leos actors are....and i know im not the only one..Mike i only know cause of bones, and i think Donnie was a guest for like 10 seconds on a my name is Earl Episode


splinter is the only guy i know and i didnt learn his name till this movie
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:22 PM   #24
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I'm all ears in terms of the turtles screen time...long as the story is engaging AND as long as the film is not 87-96mins (wishful thinking on my behalf), at this point in the game what else can the film crew adjust? (I know reshoots are happening but I hope it's worth it in the end) and most of all, I just hope the presence and magic will be felt when they do show up on screen for the first time (ala 1990)....minus any shaky-cam syndrome.
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Old 04-02-2014, 09:26 PM   #25
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its not the size of the cast list its the names


Fox,Fichtner,Goldberg, and Arnett are not going to want to play second fiddle to the turtles

actors who have had bit roles most people know nothing about..i honestly have no idea who the Shell Raph and Leos actors are....and i know im not the only one..Mike i only know cause of bones, and i think Donnie was a guest for like 10 seconds on a my name is Earl Episode


splinter is the only guy i know and i didnt learn his name till this movie
Raph is an underwear model, i also think he was on smalvile, i don't know. Never gonna watch anything Cw related.
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Mikey was in the Twilight movies..
Where by the look of it he played a gay ass vampire


I never saw Leo in anything...
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Raph is an underwear model, i also think he was on smalvile, i don't know. Never gonna watch anything Cw related.
I hate you so much right now...i cannot unsee..i really did not need to see that....buldge.....
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I hate you so much right now...i cannot unsee..i really did not seed to see that
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its not the size of the cast list its the names


Fox,Fichtner,Goldberg, and Arnett are not going to want to play second fiddle to the turtles

actors who have had bit roles most people know nothing about..i honestly have no idea who the Shell Raph and Leos actors are....and i know im not the only one..Mike i only know cause of bones, and i think Donnie was a guest for like 10 seconds on a my name is Earl Episode


splinter is the only guy i know and i didnt learn his name till this movie
April has always been part of their stories so as long as there still involved i dont see her getting "more" screen time she are eyes and ears.

FIchtner Is the villian He will get a villians amount of screen time.

Arnette Has been know for cameo and small parts as well as large parts so that im not worried about and Whoopie Is pretty much a cameo, Maybe two, three short scenes tops, telling April which stories she has to do and that shes fired ala Wolf series and OG movie

The turtles Are where there focus should and will most likely be Coming from the screen writer talking about unity and brotherhood and such. Im comparison to transformer you hear the screen writer talk about Sam ans his story and now Marks character in this new movie
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its not the size of the cast list its the names


Fox,Fichtner,Goldberg, and Arnett are not going to want to play second fiddle to the turtles

actors who have had bit roles most people know nothing about..i honestly have no idea who the Shell Raph and Leos actors are....and i know im not the only one..Mike i only know cause of bones, and i think Donnie was a guest for like 10 seconds on a my name is Earl Episode


splinter is the only guy i know and i didnt learn his name till this movie
You know, as much crap as Corey Feldman got as an actor, I have to give him props that he was probably the most famous of any actor attached to the 1990 movie, and he had no scenes in it. What does that say about todays actors and their need for face time?
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You know, as much crap as Corey Feldman got as an actor, I have to give him props that he was probably the most famous of any actor attached to the 1990 movie, and he had no scenes in it. What does that say about todays actors and their need for face time?
We spoiled them...
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I've no doubt we'll be seeing a ton of the turtles. First and foremost this is an action film, and none of the human characters are big fighters. The turtle's will bring the action, that's where the focus will be.
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I hate you so much right now...i cannot unsee..i really did not need to see that....buldge.....
OOOHhhhhhh, so that's why Raphael wears the loin cloth!
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I've no doubt we'll be seeing a ton of the turtles. First and foremost this is an action film, and none of the human characters are big fighters. The turtle's will bring the action, that's where the focus will be.
Sam Witwicky( Shia Labeouf) Killed 2 major Transformers on screen

Mikela (fox) cut one to bits

Most of the Decepticon Deaths where at the hands of Humans

and that was an action film about giant fighting robot aliens
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Sam Witwicky( Shia Labeouf) Killed 2 major Transformers on screen

Mikela (fox) cut one to bits

Most of the Decepticon Deaths where at the hands of Humans

and that was an action film about giant fighting robot aliens
Weren't neither of their characters actually previously canon characters in the Transformers world? I'm pretty sure if April and Vernon can suddenly handle some guys with machine guns, especially since it's evident they're both normal, every day reporters, then even the most laid-back fan would get a little confused by their sudden fighter abilities. Besides, even the very first teaser makes it clear that the HEROES which have been made, are the turtles themselves.

Not to mention, this movie isn't Transformers. Plain and simple.
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Weren't neither of their characters actually previously canon characters in the Transformers world? I'm pretty sure if April and Vernon can suddenly handle some guys with machine guns, especially since it's evident they're both normal, every day reporters, then even the most laid-back fan would get a little confused by their sudden fighter abilities. Besides, even the very first teaser makes it clear that the HEROES which have been made, are the turtles themselves.

Not to mention, this movie isn't Transformers. Plain and simple.
He killed Starscream, one of the major characters and one of the most known Decepticons...
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He killed Starscream, one of the major characters and one of the most known Decepticons...
I have no idea who you're talking about. Sam? I don't follow Transformers and I really don't care about it that much, all I know is that film is directed by a completely different person than this film.

Look, if April and Vernon wind up outshining the turtles, I'll be just as upset as the next guy. I REALLY don't like it when April is suddenly given all these random, kickass abilities (a la 2k7 and 2k12 April) and the turtles play second fiddle. But given that what we've seen in that this April seems like a normal woman, I don't see that happening.
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I have no idea who you're talking about. Sam? I don't follow Transformers and I really don't care about it that much, all I know is that film is directed by a completely different person than this film.

Look, if April and Vernon wind up outshining the turtles, I'll be just as upset as the next guy. I REALLY don't like it when April is suddenly given all these random, kickass abilities (a la 2k7 and 2k12 April) and the turtles play second fiddle. But given that what we've seen in that this April seems like a normal woman, I don't see that happening.
Them hiding under a desk being a major aspect of that lol i mean i could see them "trying" to help but not doing very well, and the turtle have to save them like just about every other version

I do like that April IN 2k12 She is slowly learning to be a Kunoichi where as in 2k7 movie she just new all the skills
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Weren't neither of their characters actually previously canon characters in the Transformers world?.
the name Witwicky is but not Sam ,and Mikaela was made for the Films..Carley (girl in third film) was name after Carley in the show

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I have no idea who you're talking about. Sam? I don't follow Transformers and I really don't care about it that much, all I know is that film is directed by a completely different person than this film.
Sam killing Starscream would be as if we see Vernon Kill Kranng

Sam also killed Megatron in the first one so picture, Vernon finishing off Shredder as leo looks from far away
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the name Witwicky is but not Sam ,and Mikaela was made for the Films..Carley (girl in third film) was name after Carley in the show
Then we got the parents and the soldiers (although, I did like Lennox and Epps)

But, at least the Turtles movie aren't making up people to just throw them in, but using characters from past incarnations.
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(although, I did like Lennox and Epps)
as do i, i felt they had better stories to tell and fit in 100% better with the autobots..but thats another chat for another day
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