Can Shredder perform martial arts with his Armor?

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam not sure why your are being hostile..im not saying anything bad about shredder


just that from a visual stand point at this moment i cant see this shredder being a sleek ninja..his body doesnt call for it to me


i could and may be very wrong only time will tell

not being hostile just posting Hard proven evidence, that al but prove at least one point in the movie we can except "shredder" doing hardcore martial arts. Thats it.

As far as what we have seen its all missing context, again Context could be the game changer here, and they are slowly showing context.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by The Boston Ninja Turtle

sam not sure why your are being hostile..im not saying anything bad about shredder


just that from a visual stand point at this moment i cant see this shredder being a sleek ninja..his body doesnt call for it to me


i could and may be very wrong only time will tell

You're correct. It's more evil warlord Shredder then what we've seen before. I don't mind it. He'll fight.



In that gif he doesn't really look that big. The picture sam posted of his hand actually looks really good because it's simple but then I see this and it just looks extremely bulky..



Anyways, someone claimed there is a line that April says... "Show me what you got Shredder".

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by MastahShredder

You're correct. It's more evil warlord Shredder then what we've seen before. I don't mind it. He'll fight.

http://i.imgur.com/uu1T24F.gif

In that gif he doesn't really look that big. The picture sam posted of his hand actually looks really good because it's simple but then I see this and it just looks extremely bulky..

http://i1.cdnds.net/14/18/618x344/mo...s-shredder.jpg

Anyways, someone claimed there is a line that April says... "Show me what you got Shredder".

It was an interview and she was joking around

[trikuza]

the shredder suit from trailer 4 has a slightly different design than the one we have been seeing this whole time.

[Sighphi]

of course he can perform stuff, he is wearing power armor...
That means he can do it even better!

Plus he is going to need it when he is fighting the Olog-hai.
Specially the one that can flip a truck with his stick. Im sure we are going to see all those moves performed in the ending fight against shred and all failing.

[Galactus]

Of course he can. I've said so before even as recently as a few days ago. That's not really an issue with me.

The question is will the movie have an in-built explanation for how Shredder-Sachs can fight in such bulky suits or at least draw the audience in enough to get us to suspend our disbelief so it wont look stupid.

the shredder suit from trailer 4 has a slightly different design than the one we have been seeing this whole time.

Unlikely but is it possible we'll be getting a version of the Shredder Elite here? The twisted, mutated Foot goons that they garbed in Shredder's armor. What is often thought by fans as clones of the Shredder?

Hmmm....better forget I said that. The likelihood of Leibesman and co reading Return To New York is pretty darn slim that it's barely worth considering unfortunately.

[trikuza]

Originally Posted by Galactus

Of course he can. I've said so before even as recently as a few days ago.


Unlikely but is it possible we'll be getting a version of the Shredder Elite here? The twisted, mutated Foot goons that they garbed in Shredder's armor. What is often thought by fans as clones of the Shredder?

Hmmm....better forget I said that. The likelihood of Leibesman and co reading Return To New York is pretty darn slim that it's barely worth considering unfortunately.

It's possible that shredder upgrades his armor at some point in the movie. Or maybe the cgi guys just made some last minute adjustments

[Leo656]

Can/Will He? Of course he will, it's a movie.

Would he realistically be able to? Not hardly. Walking in a straight line would be a chore while decked out in all that. But again, it's just a movie, so it doesn't really matter, I guess.

The concern shouldn't be, "Will Shredder fight", it should be, "Will it look horrible, cheesy, and fake?" We shall see. On the whole, not a fan of ShredderTron, Iron Shredder, or whatever other names the kids are coming up with for ol' Edward Shredder-Hands up there. It looks like a guy got dumped in glue and rolled around a junkyard for a while. Guy's got sh*t sticking out literally everywhere, it's atrocious. Tell me he's got a bladed c*ck ring, and I'll 100% believe you. Because why NOT just stick something sharp literally every single place you can, to really hammer home that this guy is, in fact, called "Shredder"?

But anyway, yeah, he'll fight, I just think it might look... odd. Like all CGI characters, he'll probably move *waytoof*ckingfast* so your eyes can't fully focus on the fact he doesn't really exist in a 3D space. Or, as someone else said, they may just have him "Hulk Smash" everything, which would also be kinda stupid looking. I'unno, we'll see.

[Refractive Reflections]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Can/Will He? Of course he will, it's a movie.

Would he realistically be able to? Not hardly. Walking in a straight line would be a chore while decked out in all that. But again, it's just a movie, so it doesn't really matter, I guess.

The concern shouldn't be, "Will Shredder fight", it should be, "Will it look horrible, cheesy, and fake?" We shall see. On the whole, not a fan of ShredderTron, Iron Shredder, or whatever other names the kids are coming up with for ol' Edward Shredder-Hands up there. It looks like a guy got dumped in glue and rolled around a junkyard for a while. Guy's got sh*t sticking out literally everywhere, it's atrocious. Tell me he's got a bladed c*ck ring, and I'll 100% believe you. Because why NOT just stick something sharp literally every single place you can, to really hammer home that this guy is, in fact, called "Shredder"?

But anyway, yeah, he'll fight, I just think it might look... odd. Like all CGI characters, he'll probably move *waytoof*ckingfast* so your eyes can't fully focus on the fact he doesn't really exist in a 3D space. Or, as someone else said, they may just have him "Hulk Smash" everything, which would also be kinda stupid looking. I'unno, we'll see.

I have to admit when I saw 2014 Shredder's armor in the trailer, I thought it was a preview for the new Transformers movie.

I don't know... all the armor is so visually distracting (like some of the Turtles features, but that's a whole other issue we've all discussed) in trying to notice every feature on it. If the movie really wanted to make Shredder "badass", just show some gruesome bloody scenes of him quickly and deceitfully killing the innocent, or his betrayers, mercilessly rather than using this flamboyant superficial approach to emphasize his "badass" character. But whatever...

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It looks like a guy got dumped in glue and rolled around a junkyard for a while. Guy's got sh*t sticking out literally everywhere, it's atrocious. Tell me he's got a bladed c*ck ring, and I'll 100% believe you.

Don't worry - he doesn't bring that out until the second date.

[Leo656]

That's terrific.

[jestermon]

I'm not seeing the problem with a guy in a huge armored suit doing Ninja moves?

Why would you think that the suit would have to be slow and bulky, and obviously if the guy in the suit didn't know how to do the martial arts the suit wouldn't be able to do it unless it's pre programmed or something.

I guess people have never seen Gundam or any other large robots fighting that don't understand.

And of course it's going to look fake it's a big metal suit fighting 4 mutant animals it's not something you tend to see everyday, I don't know why anyone would think a movie like this wouldn't have lots of fight scenes.

[MastahShredder]

Originally Posted by jestermon

I'm not seeing the problem with a guy in a huge armored suit doing Ninja moves?

Why would you think that the suit would have to be slow and bulky, and obviously if the guy in the suit didn't know how to do the martial arts the suit wouldn't be able to do it unless it's pre programmed or something.

I guess people have never seen Gundam or any other large robots fighting that don't understand.

And of course it's going to look fake it's a big metal suit fighting 4 mutant animals it's not something you tend to see everyday, I don't know why anyone would think a movie like this wouldn't have lots of fight scenes.

We just need to see a shot or two of him in action. I REALLY am hoping he isn't a Halo brute smashing his steel fists around like Super Shredder. I'd like to see some moves and if they happen to incorporate all of those blades, fine.

They just went overboard with the retractable blades. That's a sellout to me. Shredder isn't Freddy Krueger.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by jestermon

I'm not seeing the problem with a guy in a huge armored suit doing Ninja moves?

Why would you think that the suit would have to be slow and bulky, and obviously if the guy in the suit didn't know how to do the martial arts the suit wouldn't be able to do it unless it's pre programmed or something.

I guess people have never seen Gundam or any other large robots fighting that don't understand.

And of course it's going to look fake it's a big metal suit fighting 4 mutant animals it's not something you tend to see everyday, I don't know why anyone would think a movie like this wouldn't have lots of fight scenes.

Let's see you try to do a kick or just plain walk a few steps wearing all that hardware. That junk would seriously weigh you down.

[Leo656]

Not to mention that on the odd, one-in-a-million chance that, say, he happened to... I don't know... fall down trying to walk, or something... upon impact with the ground, the guy's a deck of f*cking playing cards.

Shredder: "Blast you, Turtles! I've been sliced to ribbons by my own overly-complicated, needlessly pointy battle armor! I'm bleeding to death from 847 separate lacerations, 63 of which cut completely through to the bone! BLAST YOU!"

Raphael: "Come on, guy. Nobody told you to wear that silly sh*t."

[Artist]

Can someone please tell me when we have ever gotten a flippy, high flying, show off shredder? Hasn't he always been a really traditional fighter? Grounded with blocks, counters, and forward attacking? So why am I seeing people writing about if he is flipping around it might look unrealistic? And They think his suit will just be smash and pound. Could you not block a kick and counter in this suit? Could the suit not do forward attack or perform a high kick? If it is a mech suit, don't all mech suits make the person in it stronger, faster, and more agile? Any answers to the questions that I have raised?

[Leo656]

Counter-Question: Was Shredder ever any less effective at fighting in any other version when he was NOT physically living inside of Megatron? Because I think this guy here is (over) compensating for something, with his rakes-for-hands and whatnot.

Less snarky, semi-serious reply: Anyone who's even worn a regular suit of armor can tell you that they're a bitch to move around in, are heavy as hell, and aren't exactly receptive to graceful movements, such as, I don't know, martial arts and stuff. This guy is wearing a suit of armor PLUS the entire surplus supply of Dave's Army/Navy Store strapped to it. Not only must it weigh about 700lbs, but again, if he so much as absent-mindedly goes to scratch an itch, he's gonna accidentally gut himself. I don't care how "It's just a movie and it's bad-ass-looking", it's the most impractical and over-cluttered costume design I think I've ever seen, and I hate it.

You know what it looks like? One of those MAD Magazine parodies from back in the day, when they'd make fun of TMNT and stuff, that Shredder design from the movie looks like something they'd draw to make fun of the character, not be like, "Oh, yeah, THIS is how he SHOULD look!"

I'unno, just a hot mess. I care less how "plausible" it is, but I do care how needlessly ugly it is. Which is very.

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Leo656

You know what it looks like? One of those MAD Magazine parodies from back in the day, when they'd make fun of TMNT and stuff, that Shredder design from the movie looks like something they'd draw to make fun of the character, not be like, "Oh, yeah, THIS is how he SHOULD look!"

Are we sure that Rob Liefeld didn't have any involvement with the designs for this movie? j/k

[GeneralTragg]

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Are we sure that Rob Liefeld didn't have any involvement with the designs for this movie? j/k

'T'would explain much. Although, I"m fairly certain the characters in the movie do indeed have feet.