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Old 08-02-2014, 07:50 PM   #21
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It would not have cost millions of dollars to change if all the Shredder scenes in the armor were already shot. "Shredder" is 9/10s a CGI construction, so the actor who's "in" the suit is inconsequential.

Literally, the only thing they would need to do, IF they changed it at the last minute, is shoot a very small number of scenes with an Asian actor, do a little creative editing of scenes already shot, and re-do a couple lines of audio/dialog. It absolutely could have been done over a weekend for almost nothing.

As I stated elsewhere, one of the Wolverine movies (almost sure it was the first but I can't remember, have not seen either, and admittedly am not as invested in those movies as others are, this is based on an article I read with the director recently) was having major changes made on-set AS they were filming. The movie that was scripted was not the movie that was made, as the studio would literally fax over new instructions every morning, instructing the director to excise characters that were already cast, add new ones, change entire plot points drastically from what was written down, etc. Obviously the director was not happy with this, nor were the crew, especially those who were expecting the movie to be the same as the script they all had a copy of, but every day, they essentially had to start over from scratch and somehow make a coherent movie out of it. The only thing "mandatory" were certain CGI-heavy action scenes that the studio had more or less already paid for. The story and characters that linked those scenes, however, were deemed inconsequential.

So, in looking at that example, and strictly going by how movies are made, how "The System" works, if you can more or less entirely make a movie up as you go along even after you're already started shooting, it makes no sense to even suggest that they couldn't change to Sachs to Saki at the last minute. They can, and by all objective evidence, they did. "Fox was pregnant" is a convenient cover, sure, but I actually think that would be deemed more of a waste of money by the studio than sticking Saki in at the last minute. They'd say "Just edit around her".

People can believe what they want, but the simpler explanation is, they changed Sachs to Saki because fans complained. And hey, I give them credit for listening to fans, but as others have said, it seems like they missed the "why" of it all.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:46 AM   #22
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Anyone else see that Tohoru Masamune was playing Shredder? For those of us who haven't seen it, I guess this is our validation.

https://www.yahoo.com/movies/news/fi...065235837.html
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:56 AM   #23
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Yup...this is for real. He finally has a name.

Screen Daily and Variety have mentioned his name, there's a wikipedia entry, his voice sounds like the one from the trailer from his videos on his actor site and well it's definitely his face as the 'shaddowy figure' from the trailers. Even his website says he was working on a MAJOR FEATURE FILM in March 2014..rather suspicious timing...


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Old 08-04-2014, 07:12 AM   #24
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Yup...this is for real. He finally has a name.

Screen Daily and Variety have mentioned his name, there's a wikipedia entry, his voice sounds like the one from the trailer from his videos on his actor site and well it's definitely his face as the 'shaddowy figure' from the trailers. Even his website says he was working on a MAJOR FEATURE FILM in March 2014..rather suspicious timing...

And reshoots for TMNT were confirmed on April 1st. If the "major feature film" is this one, that might just prove the last-minute recasting theory.
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Old 08-04-2014, 07:29 AM   #25
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I think the Cat may well be out of the bag,

The only other feature film on his imdb for 2014 is a film called Chatter directed by Matthew Solomon from the studio Heretic Entertainment with no other recognizable names or major stars...not exactly a MAJOR MOTION PICTURE
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:30 PM   #26
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He was also in Inception. But I don't think it really matters if a big name plays Shredder anyway. His face is gonna be covered 90% of the time. It's not like anyone knew who James Saito was before the first movie.
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:18 PM   #27
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Found this quote from a set visit. It's one of the FX guys talking about the Shredder suit:

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“At the end there’s a section that he does some natural things so in that case, he’s half what we shoot and half CG because we only built 50% of the suit, but it’s Bill Fichtner who is wearing the suit.”
Sounds like not only was Fichtner the original Shredder, but he actually IS playing him in the film.

Here's an article that breaks down all the facts and speculation: http://screenrant.com/teenage-mutant...tner-shredder/
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Old 08-04-2014, 04:53 PM   #28
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Looks like he finally got the credit....just the day after the 'official' reviews


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0556070/



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
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Old 08-04-2014, 05:40 PM   #29
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Looks like he finally got the credit....just the day after the 'official' reviews


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0556070/



http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291150/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast
At least he looks the part.

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Old 08-04-2014, 06:22 PM   #30
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Hey do you think Fichtner is bitter about this?
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:24 PM   #31
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Hey do you think Fichtner is bitter about this?
He's attending emotional support groups with Danny Woodburn and Pete Ploszek.
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Old 08-04-2014, 06:43 PM   #32
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Hey do you think Fichtner is bitter about this?
He probably couldn't care less as long as he's getting a decent paycheck.
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He's attending emotional support groups with Danny Woodburn and Pete Ploszek.


Yeah...thought as much.
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Old 08-05-2014, 06:51 AM   #34
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Ah, They have find one which will play Shredder.
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