Is Raph the main hero? ***Movie Spoilers obviously*** - Page 2

*Shark_Blade* · 08-11-2014, 06:08 AM

Ditto. He's still Vernon.

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Nickname maybe? But yeah. That was supposed to be Vernon.

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Ditto. He's still Vernon.

Nope, he's Vern.
That would be like calling Raph, Ralph.

Don't assume just 'cos of past incarnations.
So, are you gonna call whoopi goldberg "Burne Thompson" too?

Mellie · 08-11-2014, 07:05 PM

To me Raph felt like the main turtle in this movie. It also seemed like a bunch of character development scenes were missing. Meh.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-11-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Nope, he's Vern.
That would be like calling Raph, Ralph.

Don't assume just 'cos of past incarnations.
So, are you gonna call whoopi goldberg "Burne Thompson" too?

Sadly... we kinda have to....

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-11-2014, 07:10 PM

To me vern is short form for vernon, he may not be called vernon in the movie but we know who he's suppose to be based off of.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-11-2014, 07:16 PM

Yep, he's still Vernon.

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Nope, he's Vern.
That would be like calling Raph, Ralph.

Don't assume just 'cos of past incarnations.
So, are you gonna call whoopi goldberg "Burne Thompson" too?

What's the fuss. Many places call him Vernon too. Even the first lists on google have him as Vernon.

I could call Whoopi as Mrs Burne. And no one ever calls Raph as Ralph.

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ScrewtheMirageTMNT

To me vern is short form for vernon, he may not be called vernon in the movie but we know who he's suppose to be based off of.

Not really.
I see no resemblance other than the name.

No pink shirt, not a sissy and a wuss and also hits on April???
Not the vernon that i know of.

Mona_Lisa · 08-11-2014, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yep, he's still Vernon. What's the fuss. Many places call him Vernon too. Even the first lists on google have him as Vernon.

I could call Whoopi as Mrs Burne. And no one ever calls Raph as Ralph.

Unless they over use spell check

Back on topic, He is Vernon. but they have changed his character to be less annoying!

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Originally Posted by Mellie

To me Raph felt like the main turtle in this movie. It also seemed like a bunch of character development scenes were missing. Meh.

I totally agree, I was kinda bummed about this too...

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Not really.
I see no resemblance other than the name.

No pink shirt, not a sissy and a wuss and also hits on April???
Not the vernon that i know of.

In some of the cartoon episodes Vernon totally does hit on April. Is it Donatello's degree where he asks for a kiss????

*Shark_Blade* · 08-11-2014, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

In some of the cartoon episodes Vernon totally does hit on April. Is it Donatello's degree where he asks for a kiss????

OMGosh which episode is this?

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 10:15 PM

Are you serious? I was starting to think he's ghey.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-11-2014, 10:17 PM

How can you handwave all the other ka-zillion changes to the Turtles, Splinter and Shredder.... and not see they did the same to Vernon?

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

How can you handwave all the other ka-zillion changes to the Turtles, Splinter and Shredder.... and not see they did the same to Vernon?

what changes did they do the turtles exactly?
So they changed the origin but the turtles are still the turtles.

Leo is still the leader,
Raph is still always angry,
Mike is still the party dood,
and Don still does machine.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-11-2014, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

what changes did they do the turtles exactly?
So they changed the origin but the turtles are still the turtles.

Leo is still the leader,
Raph is still always angry,
Mike is still the party dood,
and Don still does machine.

Their messed up origin, them being strong enough to knock trailers around like nothing, their needlessly tacked-on outfits. As for their.... uh.... personalities?

Leo is kinda/sorta bossy
Raph is cranky for whatever reason threatens to leave... for whatever reason...
Mikey is pervy
Don is pretty much the same just nerdy to the super extreme

Honestly, we barely knew these guys. A lot of it was mostly left for the fans to 'fill in the blanks' based on previous incarnations. The problem is... this isn't a sequel. This is a whole new movie. This movie seriously needed a bit of downtime to better establish everyone. Not enough to drag the movie down, but just enough to make us actually care about these guys, and not just because 'OMG I WATCHED THIS WHEN I WAS A KID'.

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

In some of the cartoon episodes Vernon totally does hit on April. Is it Donatello's degree where he asks for a kiss????

This is not true.
Vernon doesn't even like April.
He'd say things like "I'm gonna get a new scoop before she does" etc.

*pennydreadful* · 08-11-2014, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Are you serious? I was starting to think he's ghey.

So what if he was? There's nothing wrong with being gay. Or a sissy.

Spidergreg · 08-11-2014, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

So what if he was? There's nothing wrong with being gay. Or a sissy.

Who said there's anything wrong with it?
I'm just saying i can't see Vernon in Vern.
Even his name is not the same.

*IndigoErth* · 08-12-2014, 12:28 AM

I think in movies the words "loosely based on" applies there. Vern/Vernon aren't exactly names that typically show up in movies, so kind of obvious where it came from in regards to TMNT.

Besides, I think in that Nick behind the scenes special on tv they (rather inarticulately) included his character when mentioning "fan favorites," implying it's a character we are (roughly...) familiar with.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-12-2014, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Who said there's anything wrong with it?
I'm just saying i can't see Vernon in Vern.
Even his name is not the same.

Isn't it?

Vernon Fenwick is his name in the movie, just as it is in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-12-2014, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Isn't it?

http://i.imgur.com/D8y8ehI.jpg

Vernon Fenwick is his name in the movie, just as it is in the Fred Wolf cartoon.

Ooooh

SNAP

SNAP

SNAP

BURN

Evidence on the table people!

Spidergreg · 08-12-2014, 01:44 AM

Why are you guys so surprised?
Of course it is Vernon.

What i meant was....
until it is confirmed by the movie, we shouldn't speculate.
Everyone knew he "could be" Vernon, but the movie never confirmed it.

Just like Karai was in the movie, but does that automatically make her Splinter's daughter?? No !!! 'cos Splinter was never human in the movie.

08-11-2014, 10:17 PM	#31
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08-11-2014, 06:08 AM	#21
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Ditto. He's still Vernon.

08-11-2014, 07:05 PM	#23
Mellie Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 184	To me Raph felt like the main turtle in this movie. It also seemed like a bunch of character development scenes were missing. Meh.

08-11-2014, 07:10 PM	#25
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	To me vern is short form for vernon, he may not be called vernon in the movie but we know who he's suppose to be based off of.

08-11-2014, 10:15 PM	#30
Spidergreg Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,423	Are you serious? I was starting to think he's ghey.

08-12-2014, 12:28 AM	#37
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	I think in movies the words "loosely based on" applies there. Vern/Vernon aren't exactly names that typically show up in movies, so kind of obvious where it came from in regards to TMNT. Besides, I think in that Nick behind the scenes special on tv they (rather inarticulately) included his character when mentioning "fan favorites," implying it's a character we are (roughly...) familiar with.

08-12-2014, 01:44 AM	#40
Spidergreg Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,423	Why are you guys so surprised? Of course it is Vernon. What i meant was.... until it is confirmed by the movie, we shouldn't speculate. Everyone knew he "could be" Vernon, but the movie never confirmed it. Just like Karai was in the movie, but does that automatically make her Splinter's daughter?? No !!! 'cos Splinter was never human in the movie.