Wait, What?

[Zulithe]

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

[DarkFell]

Thanks for the spoiler. :b I never got around to seeing the third movie. Even my city's current events magazine razzed that movie

So Nick TMNT hit some skids huh? I think they might have some issues to deal with when the Turtles & Friends return. New York overrun by Kraang sounds too similar to what was used in I Am Legend, so I'm hoping that won't happen.

[newhire13]

The EPF could just as easily be the only reason the Kraang haven't spread any further. They could be in a stalemate with The Kraang or may have been defeated. It could be any number of reasons. Should probably just wait till the episodes air before panicking.

[Shiro Kame]

I have to agree that it is most likely that the EPF didn't exist until a year ago. The Kraang attack last year didn't cause as much devastation as this year's, so that's why the EPF couldn't stop them. They didn't fully know what they were capable of until the second invasion. Plus, the Kraang have the advantage of advanced technology and mutagen that can cause the soldiers to turn on each other, so that could be it.

[The Big Bad]

Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

Given that the EPF has barely appeared, let alone been mentioned it could be simply justified that they dont yet exist (or have only just come into existence).

The technodrome is the only large scale attack prior to New York's invasion that the government would have definitely noticed, and it was 'mysteriously' defeated without their intervention. It seems fair to assume they have noticed Kraang beforehand, but have kept it small scale and in the hands of existing intelligence services (or even a specialised one, but probably not one toting private armed forces)

That gives them 1 year to find the funding to decide to create an organisation specifically to fight aliens/The Kraang on a large scale. I find that unlikely anyone's government is that efficient when they have perfectly good normal armies to try first.

Its the Xcom effect again. Don't bother funding anything useful until after you already need it.

If you want a really cynical excuse, maybe its an election year and congress blocked EPF's funding to make the current president look bad. (perhaps the Kraang infiltrated them? If anyone can filibuster it has to be the Kraang)

Except...the turtles have managed to keep the Kraang at bay since episode one, armed with nothing but basic martial arts weaponry. Given that, there's no reason why even conventional military weaponry shouldn't be effective against the Kraang.

[snake]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

"You're a big guy!"

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by snake

I'm not sh*tting up the official info thread with more speculation, so I'll do it here. How has nothing happened in the three plus months since the turtles left NYC. Are the EPF that incompetent that they can't take on Kraang while they're armed head to toe with guns? If the turtles and freakin' April can take out hordes of Kraang, why can't a government agency DEDICATED to taking out aliens do it? What have they been doing the past 3 months? I bet Kraang Prime is still walking around too.

April and The turtles can take on Kraang droilds but not a ton of Kraang walkers and ships and a ton of Kraang tech.

[newhire13]

Originally Posted by The Big Bad

Except...the turtles have managed to keep the Kraang at bay since episode one, armed with nothing but basic martial arts weaponry. Given that, there's no reason why even conventional military weaponry shouldn't be effective against the Kraang.

Except we saw that the invasion is twice as big and that The turtles, April and Casey couldn't stop it.

[The Big Bad]

Originally Posted by newhire13

Except we saw that the invasion is twice as big and that The turtles, April and Casey couldn't stop it.

What does that have to do with anything? In no universe does "Turtles can't stop X" mean "no one can stop X". We've seen that cloaked Kraang ships can be spotted with conventional technology, and destroyed with conventional explosives. We've seen that Kraangdroids can be destroyed by the simplest of bladed weapons. We've seen that they have no sense of tactics and have been unable to take over the Earth in millions of years. The only reason why the Kraang are in any way a threat is because the series writers wouldn't know what consistency is if it were beating them on the head with a Merriam-Webster's.

[Luckyday]

Maybe it feel out of place if the EPF is the only organization out of those other three factions that is big and competent. I mean even Shredder has idiot ball moments plus he's a delusional loose cannon. The Hamato clan while being a little competent in their missions, are at a huge disadvantage because their group is just too small to spread out.

If I were Splinter, the next thing that I would do is to start an army. Find other mutants and train them, maybe even to select two turtles to act as lieutenants.

It's not the matter of having power like the Shredder, it's a matter of personal security, the greater good and efficiency.

[Bitsy83]

I can see why people are pointing out the flaws in this, but I'm just going to suspend my disbelief here and assume that the EPF evacuated the city of the non-Kraangified people and the Kraangified people were abducted by the Kraang to Dimension X for further experiments.

Also, this is going to sound really dark, but what if the EPF was responsible for taking out the infected people? Like maybe they handled them the way people handle zombies in movies and just....exterminated them? Sounds a bit rough for a kids show, but it's a possible theory.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

I can see why people are pointing out the flaws in this, but I'm just going to suspend my disbelief here and assume that the EPF evacuated the city of the non-Kraangified people and the Kraangified people were abducted by the Kraang to Dimension X for further experiments.

Also, this is going to sound really dark, but what if the EPF was responsible for taking out the infected people? Like maybe they handled them the way people handle zombies in movies and just....exterminated them? Sounds a bit rough for a kids show, but it's a possible theory.

Or since this is a kids show...round up the mutated and put them in a facility so they can be experimented on all in the name of finding a cure to return them to normal.

And if worse comes to worse...euthanize all of them and cover it up saying that these people were part of the alien threat.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by The Big Bad

What does that have to do with anything? In no universe does "Turtles can't stop X" mean "no one can stop X". We've seen that cloaked Kraang ships can be spotted with conventional technology, and destroyed with conventional explosives. We've seen that Kraangdroids can be destroyed by the simplest of bladed weapons. We've seen that they have no sense of tactics and have been unable to take over the Earth in millions of years. The only reason why the Kraang are in any way a threat is because the series writers wouldn't know what consistency is if it were beating them on the head with a Merriam-Webster's.

There's a ton of Kraang ships and walkers not just a few that's why they're a threat during this invasion.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by Zulithe

Hey guys remember The Dark Knight Rises and how Bane and his crew of terrorists took over the entire city for months while Bruce Wayne was recovering from a broken back and the government apparently wasn't able to do **** that entire time?

Yeah...

I love good writing!

At least they tried to explain that, in that he was threatening the city with a bomb. Not exactly great explanation, but it's there.

The Kraang invasion is stupid no matter how it's skewed. If the Turtles can defeat them easily, the conventional military should be able to, but even if that military couldn't, that means the Kraang would start advancing elsewhere, which there's no evidence that they've done, either. The Turtles are also pretty irresponsible in that since they've been in Northampton, I don't remember them trying to learn what's happening elsewhere at any point.

[Tarris Vaal]

The Kraang have shown themselves to be adaptable and to throw around increasingly powerful technology to make up for the fact they cant hit a barn door at 2 paces. It may be that while conventional tech has been initially effective, they are adapting quickly and the EPF has only been able to contain them rather than eradicate them.

[The Big Bad]

Originally Posted by Ninturtle

There's a ton of Kraang ships and walkers not just a few that's why they're a threat during this invasion.

To the turtles. That doesn't mean they're a threat to a conventional army, of which there is also, by the by, quite a lot of. The U.S. is kind of famous for it, in fact. Remember how the turtles went to quite a bit of trouble to get a rocket launcher? Not a problem, for the army.