If you could make a season for the Nick show...

[MCLeo28]

^ I also do believe that Donnatello being mutated would cause an even more emotional impact considering Donnatello's the only one intelligent enough to be able to create a Retro-Mutagen and having the Turtles realize that would cause them to miss the positive aspects of Donnatello.

Of course, this is assuming they don't have Mikey B.S. his way into creating more Retromutagen. They would likely have to create this to be a special form of mutation and I would certainly want Raphael to step up and chase down Baxter Stockman for his assistance in curing Donnatello. That would certainly be the side of Raphael that most of his fans would like to see.

[GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo]

I want to c bishop. He is kind.hot.in his evil way.

Purple dragon also cool with me, i want to c more hunt down of them by casey. 2003 just end it too soon...

N they need a new villian than shredder... he is gettin old.... mabe , just maybe, they can reveal a missing son of the shredder, to heritage his evil n revenge on the turtles for his father.


and im hoping for a long show, like detective conan, just keep writing n it never ends.


Of course most important part is to focus on the turtles, on brotherly love on bromance, n to idealize them so to distinguish frm humans or anybody else. P.s. my personal preferance is raph +leo and don+mike.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo

I want to c bishop. He is kind.hot.in his evil way.

Purple dragon also cool with me, i want to c more hunt down of them by casey. 2003 just end it too soon...

N they need a new villian than shredder... he is gettin old.... mabe , just maybe, they can reveal a missing son of the shredder, to heritage his evil n revenge on the turtles for his father.


and im hoping for a long show, like detective conan, just keep writing n it never ends.


Of course most important part is to focus on the turtles, on brotherly love on bromance, n to idealize them so to distinguish frm humans or anybody else. P.s. my personal preferance is raph +leo and don+mike.

[GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo]

Originally Posted by Jester

Well r u bigger?

[Tarris Vaal]

I would certainly want Raphael to step up and chase down Baxter Stockman for his assistance in curing Donnatello. That would certainly be the side of Raphael that most of his fans would like to see.

Now that is a great idea

So if we were running with Victory's idea with the good genes and if we try and incorporate some ideas from the Turtle torture thread;

Say...

1: Following on from Shredder's apparent defeat, the Turtles are feeling elated and celebrating. Baxter is still out there, as are most of the Foot's mutant henchmen. Hun is the focus as he starts to recruit the surviving Foot and starts a crime spree. Hun escapes with Tigerclaw, B+R but Fishface is caught and captured by govt forces and Hun's factory taken from him after Turtles defeat them. Karai still recovering with Splinter and reconciles with April.

2: Rahzar re emerges to take revenge for the Shredder. He starts by trying to hunt down the newly 'healed' Karai. Mikey focus as it becomes clear Rahzar has lost all direction and purpose. He has nothing now except revenge. Mikey tries to offer friendship to him, but Leo and Raph having none of it. Mikey sneaks off to try and meet Rahzar alone, but is followed by govt agents. Mikey escapes them as the govt attacks and captures Rahzar. Rahzar infuriated by Mikey's 'betrayal'. Mikey genuinely shocked he may have been responsible and blames himself.

3: Donatello concerned Muckman hasn't been seen in a while. Mikey determined to try and save Rahzar. Turtles start trying to track down the govt agents responsible for the kidnappings. Casey learns his father is back in town and meets with him. His father gets a lot of info out of him. His father warns Casey to be careful of getting too close to his friends - including April. Mikey awols and Raph follows. As he follows Mikey, Raph catches sight of a govt truck following Mikey and intercepts. Don and Leo realise both of them are missing and follow. Eventually Mikey locates a hidden facility belonging to the EPF and Casey's dad. Mikey is captured, and without knowing what they are following, so are Don and Leo. Raph infiltrates and frees them, realising the facility has several mutants (Spiderbytez, etc). Everyone freed with help from Fishface. Rahzar joins the mutanimals. Episode ends with Brody's announcement of the 'Mutant Danger on our streets'.

4: Taking advantage of the city's fear of mutants, Hun starts using Tigerclaw, B+R to intimidate the other gangs. He also want's Shredders last stocks of mutagen. Don is also interested in raiding Shredder's lair for the last mutagen stocks, as he needs it to help Timothy. Raph keen to engage B+R head on as their intimidation starts threatening to blacken mutants reputations even more. Decision that the mutagen is more important. Confrontation at the Foot's lair. During the fight, Hun and Don are both sprayed with something. Don gets the last of the mutagen and brings it back to the lab. In meantime, Casey talking with April about his dad. April reassures him its nothing to worry about. Viewers shown agents are following and discussing April and Casey leading them to 'the lair'. They person they are talking to over the phone is man in shadows. He cuts to another phone call, questioning other agents about the Good Genes project. They say it has begun.

5: Don has a bad cold and after briefly having his shell handed to him in training goes to bed. He wakes up human (and still with a cold). The world around him appears like all his previous life as a turtle was just some bad dream. The others are humans as well, as is Splinter, B+R and even Shredder. He also sees Pulveriser as his best friend. He is still chasing April, but Casey is still a rival. April acts weirdly however, telling him to wake up. Other strange things occur and he starts to realise the Rat King (his apparent science teacher), knows a lot more what is going on. Eventually realises the Rat King is using his delirious state to make a dream reality to discover where the last of the mutagen is and to hypnotise Don into handing it to him (Don has been sleep walking, April has been trying to reach him). The others manage to fend off giant rats, whilst Don and April snap him back into reality. Don further convinced his mutant appearance is the main barrier to April liking him. Episode ends with Don finding Timothy's family, passing them a note 'from him' to say he'll be home soon.

6: Leo receives a message from Karai to say she has been captured by the EPF and needs help. He is determined to rescue her, but Raph warns him not to rush in without help. Don is still ridden with cold and Mikey (whose had the most physical contact with Don since ep 4) is also feeling unwell. Casey brought in to help instead, and Leo has a plan - contacts Muckman to help. Between them, with background support from Mikey/Don they manage to get Karai out, but Leo is confronted by a bounty hunter called Savage. Karai brought back to the lair safe, but they then realise their existence has been found on camera and leaked to Brody whose reported it as an attack on a govt facility.

7: Don's cold is still bothering him and getting worse. Leo getting concerned, but Mikey seems to be better. Raph says the big baby will get over it. As Don works on the retromutagen he takes a break and goes outside and vanishes. Turtles receive word of a monster turtle nicknamed 'Tokka' by the press attacking the city. Casey is directly hunted down and attacked by it. They realise its Don. Don's randomly mutating into a monstrous turtle, and the monstrous side is getting more frequent. The others manage to bring him to the lair and try to help, April also tries to calm him. B+R take advantage of the chaos to spread some of their own, forcing the turtles to stop them as Don tries to finish the retromutagen to heal himself. He starts to mutate again, and accidentally destroys most of the retromutagen. He has 1 dose left and decides to use it on Timothy. Fearful for April and Casey he flees the lair as his mutation seems to finalise into the 'Tokka' form.

8: 'Tokka' going on rampage but using sewers to evade the EPF. Brody having a field day with the 'scale of the mutant threat' though Pulveriser takes over the report with one defending the mutants. Casey being told by his father to observe just how dangerous the mutants really are. He deliberately starts manipulating Casey to believing he cant trust the turtles any more than any other mutant. Back at lair, Leo and Raph arguing over what to do. Leo says they need help and should get Rockwell, Raph wants to find Don and slap some sense into him. After April decides to go find Don, Raph just leaves - challenging Leo to stop him. Mutanimals face down Tokka but lose badly. B+R sent to hunt down Tokka as well to recruit him for Hun. Raph meets up with Slash and Casey and they agree to go awol from their respective teams to find Tokka. Raph starts to believe Donnie is 'for all intents and purposes' gone and only Tokka remains but he is clearly very upset and blames himself for not seeing it sooner. April finds Tokka in the sewers and manages to calm him, but Raph finds them too. April tries to stand between them, but B+R interrupt and Tokka goes back into a rampage and escapes into the sewers. April is hurt by a rockfall and brought back to lair by Raph/Casey. In meantime Leo and Mikey talk with Rockwell to figure out what happened to Donnie. Rockwell isn't sure but thinks there is some kind of mutagenic virus involved. Mikey is apparently immune because of his previous contact with some kind of retromutagen (Shellacne). He promises to look into it.

9: EPF initiate a mutant crackdown following the Tokka incident. Savage told to capture the creature by Bishop under orders of 'Queen'. Bishop revealed to be Casey's dad, when Casey talks to his father about his concern for April after what happened to her. Bishop tells him its time he told him where the Turtles are, for April's safety as much as Casey's. Raph still awol and tracks Tokka to docks, where Fishface, Tigerclaw and Hun are trying to talk with him. EPF interrupt and Hun's crew escape as Tokka is captured. Raph wonders if he should go back to team up with Leo, but decides he's better off on his own. In meantime Leo meets with Karai as they observe the 'crackdown' in action, fearing its just an excuse to put city under martial law. She warns Leo he might have to choose a side soon if things get much worse. Mikey and Leo are then tricked by Casey into being captured, Casey congratulated by his father, but he feels terrible. Mikey manages to free himself and Leo with Casey's help, and they escape the compound even as Raph is trying to break in. Raph warns them the EPF have Donnie, but they haven't got time or chance to get him and have to flee.
Donnie wakes up in cell, mostly back to himself and is introduced to Bishop and Bishop's boss, the EPF 'Queen' who turns out to be April's mother. They thank him for his assistance so far in starting a panic and start demanding he hands over the secrets of the retromutagen. He refuses, realising they are intending to use mutagen to create mutant soldiers. 'Then you will be our guest for a very long time...'

10:....


I could literally carry on for the entire season but I'll be good and let someone else have a go

[AnarkyLantern]

I expect if the mind control arc continues, Shredder would want to use it on Leo or Don.

But if we're talking a whole season... Multiverse and Crossovers! Will never happen but whatever... One Piece! (Only 2d option, I promise) Book of Life for the Day of the Dead/Halloween arc (how cool would it be to see the tmnt as those wooden figures?) The (presumably) shared universe of GLTAS and Beware the Batman as Blackest Night falls and we see lantern tmnt! And finally, the turtles are welcomed into Night Vale!

[GoldMutant]

Guys, I'm really enjoying your ideas so far, especially expanding Good Genes as if it were actually part of the series, so hats off to Tarris and victoryangel.

As for Fast Forward, I'm still a little skeptical but the concept was cool at the time. Perhaps a little more work on it and I've got no problem with it. Then again, I'm all for new interpretations. Keep working on it unworthytinker, it seems cool to me right now.

Now, I have been trying to expand my idea of Turtles in Time more, and this is what I have so far. It'll be the Foot Clan as the primary villains and 26 episodes. The story arcs as of this time are as follows:

Turtles in Time (episodes 1 and 2) (sets up the storyline)

Days of Future Past (episodes 3-5) (past and future are both visited)

Duel of Dimension X (episodes 6-9) (obvious name is obvious)

Teenage Alien Ninja Aliens (episodes 10-13) (name reference to what they were suppose to be in the 2014 film, being set in space.)

Project: Doomsday (episodes 18-22) (An alternate reality of New York City like Same As It Never Was with Shredder in control.)

Legacy/Final Issue (episodes 23-26) (ancient Japan along with nods to each part of the franchise, along with the entire storyline)

I still need to think of a storyline and location for episodes 14-17 though.

As for villains:

Shredder (entirety, primarily the first two episodes and the Legacy arc)
Lord Dregg (Space arc and secondary antagonist)

Triceratons (Dimension X arc)

Dark Turtles/Super Turtles (mind-controlled Turtles that later become Shellectro, Graviturtle, Griddex, and Blobboid. Main villains of the Doomsday arc)

Alternate-reality Mighty Mutanimals (All members except Pigeon Pete are mind-controlled and are additions to the Foot Clan’s army. Mondo Gecko replaces Pete and Malachi is added to the roster too. Secondary villains of the Doomsday arc.)

Would anyone like to see the Super Turtles as villains this time as well as the Mutanimals as mind-controlled soldiers? Generally curious before I continue to add more to the thread.

[victory_angel]

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Guys, I'm really enjoying your ideas so far, especially expanding Good Genes as if it were actually part of the series, so hats off to Tarris and victoryangel.

Thanks for the shout out.

I know Donnie wanting his brothers to kill him is somewhat out of character. But I don't see Donnie honestly wanting to lose himself in the form of a mindless monster, and yes I can see him asking his family to grant him that mercy if there was absolutely no hope of his being able to be cured.

Also if played right it can parallel the what is currently going on with Karai as a mutant snake.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by victory_angel

Thanks for the shout out.

I know Donnie wanting his brothers to kill him is somewhat out of character. But I don't see Donnie honestly wanting to lose himself in the form of a mindless monster, and yes I can see him asking his family to grant him that mercy if there was absolutely no hope of his being able to be cured.

Also if played right it can parallel the what is currently going on with Karai as a mutant snake.

(Insert Fonzie's ayyy here. Sorry, I can't post pictures still or videos)

An illness I can see affecting anyone's personality either way, making them more worn out or easily angered. In the case of Donatello, it does work out when written thoroughly. I can see them assisting Donnie but then battling him if the mutation gets out of control. If executed properly in a season (if it does come to be that is) or done with how you and Tarris have written it thus far, I can see Good Genes as a main story arc for the show somehow. Again, crossing my fingers on it. (With what my science teacher has said with sending scripts to the creators, it would be radical to see done by US)

As for Karai, I honestly hope something like that occurs in the show or something emotional. To deter away from this thread for a quick moment, I just want a strong ending to this triangle of her with Shredder and Splinter, it's repetitious by now with "Who is going to own Karai next?" Either cure her (keeping mutation or not) and bring her back home, cause her to lose control and leave both sides for good (possibly Mighty Mutanimals teamup?) just something noteworthy.

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Unworthy tinker

I plan on tweaking mine a bit more, since some of it doesn't make sense looking back now. At least my half of the idea. We were up until 2:00 AM spitballing ideas for FF, then I got up and it took like, two hours to gather it all and write it down. Rushy rushy. LOL. Either way, thanks.

I do like the concept of Viral and the Dark Turtles so far. It does feel generally confusing for me a little, but if you were up late it's understandable.

Either way, though I consider Fast Forward one of the weakest aspects of the franchise and the 2003 cartoon, I feel the missed potential could be much more fully realized by everyone here. Like I said before, we all have great imagination to put to use. Keep it up amica.

[Tarris Vaal]

I think any season for TMNT which is towards the mid or end of the show's life should aim to find a way to separate the characters - either into individuals or pairs.
Generally to achieve this requires either a major upheaval (such as losing a major battle and being scattered/captured) or having a big falling out among the characters - or a bit of both. That immediately provides a lot of room for conflict and development of stories and character depth.

By splitting up characters, it makes it easier to focus the stories on each individual - Raph could become the lone vigilante, Mikey could become stranded in the woods and forced to mature, Donatello might be trapped in Dimension X, Leo exiled to the wilds for training, etc, etc. The show can touch on the other characters to keep tabs, but generally its always a strong focus on 1 character.

Towards the end of the season it makes it more meaningful when those characters start to come back together again.

So long as the writers can achieve something like that I think it'll be fine. The setting and exact circumstances dont have to matter so much - there's a lot of options to work with from existing TMNT lore.

I am tempted to try a mini synopsis for a turtles in time season though

[GoldMutant]

Originally Posted by Tarris Vaal

I think any season for TMNT which is towards the mid or end of the show's life should aim to find a way to separate the characters - either into individuals or pairs.
Generally to achieve this requires either a major upheaval (such as losing a major battle and being scattered/captured) or having a big falling out among the characters - or a bit of both. That immediately provides a lot of room for conflict and development of stories and character depth.

By splitting up characters, it makes it easier to focus the stories on each individual - Raph could become the lone vigilante, Mikey could become stranded in the woods and forced to mature, Donatello might be trapped in Dimension X, Leo exiled to the wilds for training, etc, etc. The show can touch on the other characters to keep tabs, but generally its always a strong focus on 1 character.

Towards the end of the season it makes it more meaningful when those characters start to come back together again.

So long as the writers can achieve something like that I think it'll be fine. The setting and exact circumstances dont have to matter so much - there's a lot of options to work with from existing TMNT lore.

I am tempted to try a mini synopsis for a turtles in time season though

If it means we see more of the character growing, I have no problem with the brothers going on individual routes like Leo did with the 2003 cartoon. Really strong point on it Tarris, it would give significant meaning.

As for a Turtles in Time arc, feel free to ask me to help, I've gotten one story arc ready, which is 4 episodes titled Legacy. It was originally supposed to be an idea I had for ending the series, but I do want to expand it with the other arcs and locations I mentioned earlier on the thread. Here is Legacy:

Episode 23: Legacy, part 1
Narrowly escaping the alternate universe, the Turtles are now knowledged of a doomsday device that will doom all reality. Returning to New York, they head to Shredder’s lair in an attempt to shut the device down and defeat the Foot Clan permanently before complications arise.

The penultimate story arc will take place in an alternate universe of New York, similar to Same As It Never Was.

Episode 24: Legacy, part 2
Landing in the middle of ancient Japan, the Turtles find that this was the start of the conflict. Continuing their pursuit of Shredder, they must work with Hamato Yoshi (Splinter’s human self) and Tang Shen to rescue captive members of the Hamato Clan from a dangerous Japanese warlord and prevent the destruction of their existence.

This idea is based primarily on bringing up the origins and TMNT 3 together. The warlord Norinanga (however you spell it) is the warlord too.

Episode 25: Legacy, part 3
Leaving off from last time, the Turtles continue their final battle with the Shredder above on the rooftops before being brought to Renet’s homeworld. Their overconfidence will prove to be their fatal mistake, leading to a major rebirth that’ll doom all those around them.

Essentially a set up for the finale part and being a little more goofy with an area of all parts of the franchise to boot in it!

Episode 26: Legacy, part 4
The seemingly dead Shredder has returned, injuring Casey, Splinter, and April as well as kidnapping Karai. In addition, the highly dangerous weapon has been composed by the controlled Baxter Stockman which will doom all of humanity. With their backs on the wall, the Turtles must brave their way back to Shredder’s lair and end the nightmare once and for all, or else risk the living of all around them...

I did mention this on the Turtle Torture thread, but I'll keep my spoilers away.

Other episode title names I have at this time are the two part starter named "Turtles in Time" and the entirety of an entire outer space arc with Lord Dregg. Those names are "Go! Go! Alien Turtles!" (PR FTW), "Turtle Trek" and "The Hyperstone Heist".

Dimension X, the past, future, and one other location I need to learn of.

[victory_angel]

Maybe the Turtles separating is something like Leo's training journey in the 2007 film. Each of the turtles are sent on a separate journey.

Before they leave Donnie hands his brothers a note book so they can keep a journal of their progress. They can't bring their Leo journey's to the jungles of south america. Donnie goes to a rural forest in Japan. And Mikey would be sent to a rain forest in china. Raph is the only one who will stay in New York.

Raph is confused as to why he was the only one left behind while his brothers get to see the world. Splinter tells him that journeys come in all forms and part of his journey is to stay home.

As the year passes they do get monthly letters from the others about how their journey's going. However after a month or so Donnie's letters seem to stop coming. No one thinks any thing of it at first as it they think that maybe he hasn't been able to write. April contacts Leo with her T-phone just to be sure and Leo tells he hasn't heard from Donnie lately...he assumed that perhaps they were out of range. Mikey hasn't heard from Donnie either, and he's worried that their brother may have wandered into Aokigahara (a Japanese forest that is historically associated with Japanese Demons and a popular place for suicides)

April gets the feeling something is wrong...but she doesn't believe Donnie is dead. She tries contacting Donnie's phone and gets his voice mail message.
April: Hey Donnie it's me April, we haven't heard from you in a while....can...can you call me back when you get this.

As April leaves the voice message we pan out on Donnie's T-Phone and belongings which are just left in the middle of nowhere. and there are signs the Shredder's goons such as Tiger Claw has been there as well.

[snake]

Originally Posted by GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo

Well r u bigger?

I consider myself a big guy

Spoiler:

[Sabacooza]

Originally Posted by MCLeo28

I would certainly want Raphael to step up and chase down Baxter Stockman for his assistance in curing Donnatello. That would certainly be the side of Raphael that most of his fans would like to see.

I won't speak for all Raph fans but I know I wouldn't mind seeing that. Maybe give him an episode all to himself where he tracks down Baxter and kicks lots of ass along the way.

[miru]

Main Arc: Quest for the Mutastones

Villains: Ch'rell (now under an Oroku Nagi disguise (his identity is not revealed until midway through) and takes over from Shredder temporarily), Mutagen Man

Sub-Plots: The Search For Irma, Foot Clan Divided, Retromutagen Convoy

[GiveMeBackMyRaphXLeo]

Originally Posted by snake

I consider myself a big guy

Spoiler:

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...5/BaneTDKR.jpg

Srsly? U dont kno the meaning of big guy

[Tarris Vaal]

Quoted from Goldmutant
Episode 24: Legacy, part 2
Landing in the middle of ancient Japan, the Turtles find that this was the start of the conflict. Continuing their pursuit of Shredder, they must work with Hamato Yoshi (Splinter’s human self) and Tang Shen to rescue captive members of the Hamato Clan from a dangerous Japanese warlord and prevent the destruction of their existence.

This idea is based primarily on bringing up the origins and TMNT 3 together. The warlord Norinanga (however you spell it) is the warlord too.

Nobunaga
I always shudder when series start using established historical figures For me at least, it always felt uncomfortable because it cant get around the can of worms of disrupting historical accuracy or doing daft things with famous people. Bill and Teds Excellent adventure drives me nuts for exactly this reason.

It works a lot better I think, if they use a character of their own creation within that setting. So - in this example -lets call this warlord Norinaga and have him just be a generic warlord to act as a villain - then you can literally do whatever you want with him within the story

So a Time arc would involve

Alternate present/near present setting
Past (Feudal Japan)
Future
And presumably the 'real present'?


I dont know if you guys remember a show called Sliders? It was all about parallel dimensions and alternate realities. Later seasons dealt with the idea of one reality invading the others to create an Empire. That might be an interesting idea to adopt to introduce Dregg or the Triceratons as a villain (or even reintroduce the Kraang), and have characters like Jhana, Renet, Mona Lisa, Fugitoid or the Neutrinos appear as fugitives fleeing from an invaded reality.
As the Kraang were already more or less doing this, it could easily be incorporated that this 'interdimensional rebellion' realised the Turtles defeated the Kraang and come to Earth to ask for their help.

Newtralizer also describes the Kraang as 'the most treacherous creatures in all 10 dimensions' which also gives an indication of at least 8 other dimensions to play around with even in the current iteration.


If Renet were to appear say ep 1-2, show a turtle a possible future where Earth is enslaved by Shredder/Dregg/Triceratons. She could explain to stop it happening they have already missed their chance, and must go back in time to stop something happening (say stop the construction of the Kuro Kabuto).
I forget the guys name, but Shredder mentions the founder of the foot clan in Legend of the Kuro Kabuto, he could easily be a villain for a few episodes (and it could be implied that the Turtles interference with the early Foot clan is what starts the whole Hamato/Foot feud)

They could then come back to the 'present' to find something has gone wrong, and they are trapped in another dimension or the future and have to figure out a way back.

Eventually they work their way back to liberate an enslaved present or defend it from impending invasion as the finale.

[victory_angel]

A turtles in time plot the way I would vision it would be similar to the Turtles in Time IDW story line.

The Turtles have already met Renet and fought Savantei Ramero. The turtles are hanging out at lair when Renet arrives. Mikey is glad to see her as he had become smitten with her the moment he met her.

Raph is annoyed by this and demands to know why she's here because whenever she shows up trouble is not far behind.

Renet tells them that there is a journey they need to take. She can't tell them where they are going or what they have to learn because the time staff has a mind of it's own. As she says this the time staff glows and they are all hurtled through time.

The first six episodes would focus on Mikey (IDW this part focuses on Raph). The Turtles find themselves in the time of the Dinosaurs. (Renet appears to them at times but her voice keeps fading in and out) Probably witnessing the Kraang beginning their plans to turn the Earth into Dimension X and mutating monkeys so they start evolving into humans.

Next part they arrive in ancient japan (Leo centered story line) Turtles unintentionally start the feud between the Hamato Clan and the Foot. Either that or they see the Foot Clan being attacked by the Hamato Clan. They see Splinter's father find infant Oroku Saki. They all know what sort of monster Oroku Saki grows up to be and thinks if he's destroyed now, Splinter can live with his wife and child and never have to be a rat. But Leo counters that yes that child grows to be their greatest enemy, but without him...they wouldn't exist.

Next part centered on Raph, (This is centered on Mikey in the IDW) This could either be set around the war of Trafalgar or world war 2.

Through out these journey's Renet sporadically appears to them but her voice fades in an out.

Finally they arrive in a future version of New York. The turtles at first ready themselves for anything, but soon find that majority of the population are mutants and they aren't paying them any mind. They do see signs telling them to Obay the Shredder and Foot Insignia everywhere. Also the city has been renamed "Foot Island" While they are walking Renet appears to them once again, but this time she is able to fully talk to them.

A mob of bounty hunters sees them and thinks they are resistance. The Turtles run for it when they see a cloaked person waving to them and telling them to follow him if they want to live. They follow him and they find themselves in what they recognize as the lair. Leo thanks the cloaked person for helping them before asking who they were.

Cloaked person: The more accurate question should be "Who was I?"

Renet tells them they really shouldn't be encountering one another. The cloaked person is turns out to to be an elderly version of Donatello. Mikey looks around and asks where the older versions of the rest of them are. Future Don goes quiet... moment before glancing at the place where Splinter had the shrine to his wife and daughter. Three ninja masks (one blue, one red, and one orange), Casey's hocky mask and April's fan are there implying the others are dead.

At the end of the arc, Donnie tells his future-self that he has a hard time accepting this will be his future. Future Don however tells him that the future is hypothetical and can still be rewritten. Then the final part of the episode after they've returned home, Donnie needs to spend some time alone. Raph finds him looking at his mask and asks if anything is bothering him. Donnie sighs and says that he was just thinking about what his future self had told him. He then says while his futureself didn't say it in words...it was clear that the others all died because of something he did or didn't do. The others reassure him that whatever happened...he never gave up fighting for their sake. And they don't want him to give up now because of something that may or may not happen in the future.

[Ashwolf]

The 1st half would be similar 2 the glimpse of the future idea I posted in the turtle torture thread, the 2nd half would be a good genes story branching off from that

Ep 1-2 - arriving in the future/fighting against dark shadow soldiers/Leo getting poisoned

Ep 3-8 - find out about wats going on/meet a few groups of resistance/try 2 find a cure 4 the poison/fight off dark shadow soldiers

Ep 9 - mikey helps w raiding some convoys 4 supplies/Donnie continues 2 try and find a cure 4 the poison despite wat the resistance groups say

Ep 10 - Donnie and mikey help a free world resist becoming part of the dark shadows empire but fail

Ep 11 - Leos condition continues 2 decline so Don decides 2 take Leo w him 2 get the cure from the dark shadow where Don learns about the dark shadows true identity, reasons, and a few secrets

Ep 12 - Don narrowly escapes raphs fortress w Leo despite Leos deteriorating condition

Ep 13 - Unable 2 find a cure 4 the poison and no other options, renet takes Donnie and mikey back 2 prevent Leo from getting poisoned

Ep 14 - After saving Leo from his grim fate, mikey and Donnie fill in Leo about wat happened 2 him and during the time he was poisoned, Don then goes on explaining about how the dark shadow turned out 2 be raph and how karai was there and how a near death event changed him

Ep 15-16 - deciding on seeing wat happened that caused raph 2 change in2 dark shadow, they attempt 2 find out when it happened/After finding out when it happened and trailing raph 2 a abandoned kraang lab containing experimental chemicals, raph(under the mind control again) spots them, during the fight in the lab, the security system is triggered and a laser beam hit 3 of the containers, causing them 2 explode, Leo tries pushing raph out of the way but both were caught in the blast, getting badly burned in the process, Donnie has renet send them back 2 their own timetime, after they get back 2 the lair, Leos burns heal almost instantly

Ep 17 - Still determined 2 help raph and stop the future they saw from happening, they ask Rockwell 4 help in freeing raph, after a bit of reminding raph of childhood memories, they free raph and escape, l8r while they r relaxing, Don is checking out Leos health 4 any sign of the burns and glances at his computer, when a tiny amount of shadowy smoke rises from Leos fingers

Ep 18 - they decide 2 spend some time at the farmhouse after the events that happened, while there, the chimera shows up near the farmhouse, during the fight, Leo notices dark smoke around his hand and decides 2 use that 2 his advantage, afterwards he tells Donnie about it, that night while sleeping, his skin briefly turns black

Ep 19 - Donnie is still going through a lot thinking back on how raph was in that future and all the stuff he did but stops thinking on it when Leo has them go hiking, while mikey was wandering off the trail some, he ends up falling in2 a hidden cave system and twists his ankle which Donnie forces him 4 stay put while they get some rope, while waiting on Donnie 2 bring the rope, black mist starts pouring out of his arms and covering the ground, raph notices while Leo starts panicking some but it stops just as randomly, soon after Donnie gets back and after getting mikey out, they head back though raph keeps a close eye on Leo, that night while sitting around the campfire, raph starts asking questions about wat happened but be4 he has a chance 2, Leos skin turns black off and on 4 a few min then he doubles over and collapses on2 the fire, they quickly pull him up and r surprised he didn't get burned

Ep 20 - the next morning, they check on Leo and find him feverish, not waking up, and his arms r entirely black, at the sight, Donnie gasps no and mikey buries his head in2 Donnie, which makes raph curious and demands 2 know wats going on, Donnie sits down on Leos bed w mikey still on his shoulder and insists that raph sit down be4 he goes on telling about the future they saw, his alternate self, Leo getting poisoned and the events at the lab, then states how Leo looked when he was poisoned and now is identical except 4 the entry point, Donnie then says that he thought if they could stop Leo from getting poisoned then he would live but reminds himself that the burns were so severe that they shouldn't have healed as fast as they did and starts sniffling, after hearing everything that happened and that Leo risked his life 4 raphs future self, raph gets up and kneels beside the bed, putting a hand on Donnie and mikey, 2gether, they vow 2 help Leo get better

Ep 21 - Leo still hasn't woken up so they decide on returning 2 the city after carefully moving him 2 the party wagon, on the way, Leos skin occasionally turns black be4 fading again in most spots, little did they know that on the outskirts of the city, bishops men were looking 4 them

Ep 22 - they made it back 2 the lair w/out being spotted, once there, Donnie was doing some tests on Leo in his lab and was finishing when Leo woke up, Don excitedly called 4 raph and mikey just be4 noticing the shadows that were surrounding Leos hands, Don took a nervous gulp be4 having raph and mikey hurry up although it was 2 late, Leo effortlessly encased Don in shadows and pinned him 2 the wall, mikey and and raph saw but were unable 2 stop Leo from escaping, as Donnie dropped 2 the floor, all raph could do was stare as he asked if wat he did was any worse which he felt bad 4 Donnie after hearing ooo yeah, 25x worse

Ep 23 - After Leo took off, it took awhile 2 find him and after sending mikey after Rockwell, they managed 2 find him though be4 they had a chance 2 keep Leo from pulling shadow clouds, bishops men find them and catch Leo

Ep 24-25 - despite not being able 2 find where Leo was taken, Donnie and Rockwell tested the chemicals that Leo got burned w and after snatching a sample of the improved mind control serum and adding in wat Donnie learned from wat raph aka dark shadow told him, they determined that the serum added a lvl of mental stability 2 the chemicals that made them like living shadows though in reverse order there was no guarantee on the same effect so after long debate, they finally made a derivative of the serum that excluded the mind control so it would only return Leos state of mind, at that same time though it took much effort, Leo managed 2 escape bishops forces

Ep 26 - 2 wks going by w/out finding any sign of leo, they spot a few of bishops men and follow them 2 a alley, where leo is surrounded by gov agents, they jump in and help when leo, now unable 2 see and solely relying on the heat sources, pins raph and all the agents 2 the buildings and about 2 crush their lungs when mikey shouts 4 leo 2 stop, surprised Leo hesitated but wasnt really able 2 pinpoint the direction, just the warm energy around him, after a min of silence, Leo asked if mikey was there, which mikey grinned big at, after a moment of silence following the burst of warmth, Leo said that bishops men did something 2 him that helped clear his head but since then, all he could see was thick grey clouds, Donnie sighed in relief at Leos mind being clear so that the derivative wouldn't have 2 be used and insisted that once Leo dropped raph, they could see wat could be done about the sight issue which, after leo figured out where raph was(w some help from donnie and mikey), he immediately released raph be4 crushing the agents that he had in his grip, however after looking in2 leos eyes and seeing them almost glassy and distant, he stated that it wouldn't be easy which caused fear 2 wrap around leos heart while unintentionally, his chest was covered in a dark cloud

The 1st 5 eps of the next season focus on restoring Leos vision