List your LEAST favorite incarnation of each character

[pennydreadful]

Originally Posted by Powder

Bayturtles everything.

LOL yeah, this goes without saying for me also, but I'll come up with some secondary ones.

April - Nick/2k7
Karai - 2k3/2k7
Bebop & Rocksteady - OT
Baxter - OT
Casey - Nick

Other than PD, I don't think I've ever really hated any versions of the Turtles though.

[Jephael]

Michelangelo and Shredder: 4Kids
Raphael: 2007 film (that Nightwatcher plot was so stupid)
Casey Jones: Nickelodeon
Burne Thompson: Fred Wolf seasons 2 and 8

[oldmanwinters]

I've decided not to mention the Platinum D. incarnation because... so obvious. Minimum criteria for character inclusion is that there are at least three different incarnations.

Leo: 2k7 Imagi
Raph: I like him for the early season of 4Kids, but he really starts to become stale around the fourth season. He's always throwing away his weapons!
Michelangelo: Fast Forward - Back to the Sewers seasons of 4Kids. He actually did have some fine character development episodes during the first four seasons like the first Turtle Titan adventure and "Grudge Match."
Donatello: Mirage Comics

Splinter: Mirage Comics (Volume 4 & Tales of the TMNT era... what a hypocrite)
April O'Neil: Image Comics
Casey Jones: Some episodes of 4Kids and some issues of Image & Mirage Volume 4 era. Even at his coolest, Casey is sort of a pathetic character.
Fugitoid: Pretty much the same character across the multiverse. MACC fills the role in his one Fred Wolf appearance.
Utroms: 4Kids... way too benevolent of a race to be taken seriously.
Irma: Archie. Yeah, she did appearance once or twice. I love the twist in Nick, even if the timing of her heel turn doesn't make a lot of sense.

Shredder: 4Kids (such a shallow character motivation despite his complicated backstory)
Krang/Kraang: I think I've enjoyed all his incarnations
Baxter Stockman: Again, I think he's always been interesting and pitiable.
Karai: IDW; she's yet to receive any sustained interesting development.
Rocksteady & Bebop: All good, so far.
Hun: IDW
Rat King: 4Kids

Slash: Fred Wolf, though he does have his charms
Leatherhead: 4Kids
Mondo Gecko: Fred Wolf
Wingnut & Screwloose: Fred Wolf
Ray Fillet: Fred Wolf approximation... though granted "Ray" is an interesting character in his own right.
Mutagen Man: Fred Wolf (poor execution and under usage)
Pigeon Pete: Fred Wolf, I guess... not much to work with.

[Aaronardo]

WOAH wait, hold on guys, the PD Turtles' personalities were the only good things about the movie .-.
Anyway...
- Leonardo: (2k7 "TMNT") Whiny and a suckup, these are certain character traits of Leo in other incarnations, but they abandon every other part of the character that make him likable and make these unlikable traits his full-on character. Blah.
- Raphael: (Fred Wolf) Sarcastic. I like sarcastic characters, but, really? With Raph? He's supposed to be the gritty one, right? That's an odd dash away from an original character if I've ever seen one. Not to mention just how unlikably lazy he sometimes is.
- Donatello: (The Original Movies) Besides some mumbo jumbo talk exchanged with the guy from TGRI in SoTO, did this Donnie ever show any signs of being very intelligent compared to his brothers? Or, at the very least, did he even get a personality besides being a second Mikey? I guess he gets so little screentime that he can't really develop a personality, but, c'mon. The first movie is just about the biggest offender to this.
- Michelangelo (4Kids/2k3) He started off the show a witty and fun character. More sarcastic than he was stupid, which is, in my opinion, the best representation of Mikey. Unfortunately, I think it was midway through Season 2 when he started down a quick downward spiral and not only became an idiot, but a loudmouthed assault on the ears. Eventually, he just "grew" to be an Annoying Machine for Raph, which got insanely grating after awhile.
- Splinter (PD/BayAliens) He learned ninjitsu from a book, managed to teach some Turtles the same thing using the skills he learned, and treats his sons more like pets and doesn't act nearly at all like a father. Yup. This Splinter is balls.
- April (PD/BayAliens) Ooh boy, this movie again. Joy. This one was very close between what I chose and TMNT. I eventually decided a poorly told, half-assed backstory that somehow connects her to the Turtles and having that be the only thing that holds her to the movie was a lot worse than having zero personality. Plus, dat kick to Shreddertron tho. Why does it exist.
- Casey Jones (Nick) There are few things about Nick and 2k3 I hate. Post-Season 1-ish Mikey is annoying and I'd rather not watch episodes centered around him, but I don't hate him, since he does have a hint of that Mikey charm within him. Now, when I first saw "The Good, The Bad, and The Casey Jones", it seriously looked like Casey was going to be a badass character (like he should be) that is always hanging around with Raph and, of course, flirting with April every now and again. Take his friendship with Raph and his badass level away, amp up his flirting with April about 11 notches, and throw in a bunch of idiot and annoying, and his personality becomes an annoying guy who might get in the way of Donnie and April or... whatever this show wants from Casey. JESUS, this character is so annoying and worthless. Definitely one of the few things from Nick I absolutely HATE.
- Shredder (PD/BayAliens) Almost said Fred Wolf. But since I actually like that character, no. Plus I didn't even think about Bay's movie beforehand. His backstory with the Hamato Yoshi and Splinter getting thrown away gives him no purpose to be hunting down Splinter and the Turtles, making him a shallow and worthless character. I mean, I could say a lot about this character, but I've already vented out everything I don't like about this character, so I'll just sum him up with one word: worthless.
Wow. Typed more than I wanted to there. Enjoy my novel I guess

[turtlefanforever]

Extremely surprised about how many picked Michelangelo from 4kids as their most hated. He's the universally most hated character in the Nick series even by the fans.

There's no depth to him. He just spouts out random, zany Ish for the H-e-double hockey sticks of it.

[Bry]

This one's a lot harder, somehow. I guess I tend to like most of the different versions of these characters than I dislike, so the pool of choices'll be a little shallower this time.

Leonardo: BayTurtles
Mainly due to there just not being much to the guy at all. Kind of the case with all of the Turtles in that movie, honestly - they didn't to the work to make them feel "real" so they mostly felt one-note and forgettable. And Johnny Knoxville's voiceover was really out of place.

Donatello: BayTurtles
Same as above. He was probably the most likeable of the four in that movie, but he doesn't come close to most other versions of Donnie. The overboard "HE'S THE NERD" costume/accessory choices didn't help much, either.
Though Nick has come close at points. He's mostly likeable, and Rob Paulsen is excellent, but his Nice Guy routine with April really grates on me. I'm glad they seem to be laying off that a bit lately.

Raphael: BayTurtles
He's got the "gruff loner" personality, but in the most bland/lazy way possible. And even though he had the most screentime of the four, I didn't feel he had the heart or emotional depth that makes most other versions truly likeable. Without that his "emotional breakdown" scene was laughable.

Michelangelo: BayTurtles
Noel Fisher's actual performance was easily the best of the four, but Mikey managed to be the most thoroughly unlikeable Turtle in the movie, considering his entire characterization was basically "promote Orange Crush and Pizza Hut, fart, sexually harass Megan Fox".
The 2003 and Nick versions also got pretty irritating at times, but not in this gross creeper way.

Splinter: BayTurtles
Do I need to explain this? The five seconds he fought rat-style were decent -- though IMO, Nick did it better -- but there was almost nothing to his character, and the stupid backstory they gave him (or lack thereof) was pitiful. Weeaboo Splinter! Also, he was absolutely hideous. Nothing to like here.

April: BayTurtles
The worst. Totally incompetent and impossible to sympathize with, even with the "tragic backstory" they tried to cram in -- the 1990 movie's one line about April missing her dad did more to humanize the character than all of the flashbacks and contrived backstory connections in this thing. Megan Fox's rotten performance did nothing to salvage it, either. Awful.

Casey: Nick/2012 Series
I actually kinda like him for the most part, but I just happen to like all of the other versions more. Turning Casey into a teenager just doesn't work for me overall, though, and I feel like he's less a loveable jackass than just a douchebag a lot of the time.

Shredder: BayTurtles
You could count his lines of dialogue on your hands, he had no real backstory or motivation, his power-armour was idiotic, and he basically played sidekick to a generic corporate villain with a masterplan that made no damn sense. All-time low for the ol' Shred-Head.

Karai: IDW Comics
I almost want to say BayTurtles, but it's hard to count that version as a character at all, even by that movie's thin standards.
I feel bad saying IDW here. It's not that she's a bad character by any stretch - it's just that I don't think they've fully developed the character yet, and so she's a bit underwhelming compared to previous versions, at least at this point. I totally expect this to change, and soon. So yeah - I don't dislike her by any stretch, but if I have to pick one...

Baxter: Fred Wolf/1987 Series
The whitewashed, pathetic sycophant takes this one easily. Though I'm not super fond of the Nick version either, really. Baxter should exude arrogance, and these two in general feel like insecure losers.

Bebop and Rocksteady: Fred Wolf/1987 Series
I know this sounds like sacrilege, but it's purely another "if I have to pick one" situation, because I actually really love every version of Bebop and Rocksteady. The only reason I give it to the '87 versions is because I feel they got almost too dopey and "soft" as time went on. But, again - I like them a lot.

Leatherhead: Fred Wolf/1987 Series
"Oh-hoh, I be de ol' Cajun stereo-type, by gumbo! I guar-on-tee!"

[Cryomancer]

Originally Posted by turtlefanforever

Extremely surprised about how many picked Michelangelo from 4kids as their most hated. He's the universally most hated character in the Nick series even by the fans.

There's no depth to him. He just spouts out random, zany Ish for the H-e-double hockey sticks of it.

Yes, like a kid, which he is. Similarly his 2k3 incarnation is pretty much just like an actual teenager.

[plastroncafe]

For me, the saving grace of Nick's Mikey is the voice acting by Cipes.
I can't help but find the little blighter endearing.

PD's Mike, on the other hand...is just a creeper.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

For me, the saving grace of Nick's Mikey is the voice acting by Cipes.
I can't help but find the little blighter endearing.

PD's Mike, on the other hand...is just a creeper.

Please refer to the graph I placed here - http://www.thegreenlanterncorps.com/...l/favorite.htm

[TurtleTitan97]

Every character in the 2k14 film. Same goes for Next Mutation.

[plastroncafe]

I don't really see much wrong with being a pervert.
Nothing wrong with being a pervert. Some of my best friends are perverts.
Creepers however, should not be suffered.

[precision]

Not very fond of Splinter in the 2012 series unlike his previous incarnations. From FW to '03 Splinter is a patient and wise Sensei who raised the four turtles. In the new show he's unforgiving and heavy-handed. They're teenagers not adults. I particularly disliked the scene when he scolded Donny because she didn't like him and kept hitting him. Besides, Splinter let his wife get killed by Shredder so who is he to give advice? Splinter and Kirby O'Neil, for me, are the worst parts of the 2012 show.

[Jephael]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

I don't really see much wrong with being a pervert.
Nothing wrong with being a pervert. Some of my best friends are perverts.
Creepers however, should not be suffered.

I thought "creeper" was a synonym for "pervert".

[pennydreadful]

No - creepers make people feel uncomfortable with their gross and inappropriate behavior. Perverts just have deviant tastes from what's considered "the norm".

Example: A guy who enjoys light spanking or wearing women's underwear for titillation in the privacy of his own home (or amongst other deviants/appropriate IRL and internet venues) can be described (and can self-describe) as a pervert in a non-offensive way.

A guy who tells a woman he's just met that she makes his pants (or shell) tighten is a creeper. Being a creeper is never good.

[Wildcat]

This seems like another anti-2014 movie topic in disguise

Leo- Dont know, 2007 I guess. Seemed overconfident maybe.

Raph- Next Mutation I guess. Don't really dislike any of the Raphs.

Don- Again don't dislike any. OT I suppose since he could conveniently make anything

Mike- Definitely Nick. For the obvious reason listed many times here.

Splinter- 2014/PD dumb looking and learned to fight from a book.

Shredder- 90s live action I guess. Too easily defeated.

April- Nick, link to the kraang just seems cliche to me

Casey Jones- Nick, kinda feel bad though hes a solid character but comes off annoying imo

[Leo656]

So? Don't tell people not to hate what they hate. You like it. Most people don't. That's life. Save your eyerolls before you get stuck like that.

My honest answer: Everything and everyone from the new movie was the worst, with Turtle Christmas/Turtle Tunes in second place. Collectively, the only TMNT stuff that I HAVE to be drunk to suffer through.

[pennydreadful]

I happen to like Turtle Christmas, thankyouverymuch! Seriously though, how can you not? Half the fun is making everyone else in the room suffer through it while you sing along!

Tis the season for watching bad Xmas specials - if you're gonna bring out the Alf Xmas episodes and the He-Man & She-Ra Xmas Special, you may as well go the whole hog and do The Wrap Rap too, know what I mean?

[LeoRaph]

Been on a few MKX boards lately, but with 'The not a FW Soft Reboot BT2', crappy treatment of 2K3 by nick and constant hiatus with nick I haven't really done much 'Ninja Turtling' of late - (Cheers Leo for Koining that).

Until now, I caught the first episode of NM and it was baaaaad. They somehow managed to screw up Michaelangelo's, Raphael's and Leonardo's personalities. Leo sounded like Raph, Raph sounded like Mikey and Mikey sounded like Leo, I can't even remember Donnie. So I would say they would be the worst incarnations I've seen on par with Everything Bay Turtles except the actors who played Karai and Shredder...Tohoru Masamune was the best thing about BT (Bay Turtles) and well they replaced him so good to see things are right on par like the first one. At least Brian Tee was awesome as Dark Liu Kang in MK Legacy so that's something....I guess...

I'm fine with most Nick incarnations except I'm not a fan of Nick's Casey Jones he's sleazy and annoying, sure he has heart but he just comes across as slimy. Great role model for boys there. April is a little too 'Mary Sue' but still no where near as bad as 'you know'...oh and Donnie's 'crush' is grating but hey it's Rob freakin' Paulsen, the guys is just awesome so I can forgive this version for now...

I got nothing bad to say about the 2K3 characters, I may be one of the only ones who likes 2K3 Mikey and 2K3 Raph grows on you. He had a lot of shades for a voice that seemed 'wrong' to start with. Now when I read comics I hear Gregory Abbey's 2K3 Raph instead of Josh Pais's Raph and it just works.

FW, goofy as it was I still like them all, though I can't sit through it anymore like I can 2K3.

Aaand I love all 3 1990 Movie incarnations.

So yeah NM and BT are the worst for me.

EDIT - Whoops Forgot the TMNT version, I was fine with most incarnations, again probably one of the few who likes a universally hated version of a turtle (non BT ) this time with Leo but hey he worked for me for the story. -

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I happen to like Turtle Christmas, thankyouverymuch! Seriously though, how can you not? Half the fun is making everyone else in the room suffer through it while you sing along!

Tis the season for watching bad Xmas specials - if you're gonna bring out the Alf Xmas episodes and the He-Man & She-Ra Xmas Special, you may as well go the whole hog and do The Wrap Rap too, know what I mean?

No, I do not know what you mean. There are lines that even I won't cross.

I rented Turtle Tunes and Christmas with a voucher I got at the video store, so I saw them for free, and I still felt ripped off. I know, I'm a grouch. Even at 12 I was a cynical little dickhead.

And there is nothing at all wrong with Skeletor finding the Christmas spirit. That's what the holidays are all about, man. The guy's a monster, but he's not a mons-... Hmm. Okay, well, let's just say, "He's not Hordak", and leave it at that.

[Commenter 42]

Originally Posted by Powder

Bayturtles everything.

Almost. Coming out of their shells tour is tied with PD for me, for completely different reasons, o'course.

I didn't love PD's shredder, but I'll take Mech Shredder over this guy:



you know - if they put a gun to my head.

That helmet....whoa nana hey....