Eric Sachs not in TMNT 2? - Page 2

Casey · 12-10-2015, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So the new trailer has been released and he was nowhere in the trailer. The actor signed on for a 3 movie deal.

I'm wondering if maybe we'll see him in the first 5 minutes of the movie begging for his life to Shredder for "failing him" in the first film, and then Shredder using his blades to slash open his throat and leave him dying on the floor. It would be a great way to introduce the new actor as Shredder and show how much better than he is the last film.

Also seeing Eric Sachs dying in the most gruesome way possible for the terrible concept of a "white man Shredder" needs to be done.

I think he signed on for a 3 movie deal when he was still cast as The Shredder/before the rewrites though right?

Casey · 12-10-2015, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt2310

utroms were on the scroll on the back wall in the first movie, when sacks and april are talking at his mansion

My point exactly.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 12-10-2015, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Shredder should slit his throat with his blades. That way his role in the movie will be fullfilled and his character arc will end.

Honestly the Shredder was so damned lame in the first film I'd rather it be the other way around. Have Sachs kill Saki for being such a lameass.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-10-2015, 10:38 PM

Contracts can be changed, broken, or release from. Sachs had no place in a TMNT movie. What comic or cartoon did he come from again? Did I miss an episode, or an issue somewhere? Using him as Shredder (before the rewrite) was the biggest mistake ever. Just let him rot in prison, he doesn't need to be in the sequel.

sethmartin · 12-11-2015, 06:20 PM

Eric Sachs was my favorite character in the last movie. He was by far the most interesting, but I credit that to the actor. Fichtner is just fun to watch. However, I agree that Sacks shouldn't be in this. He would just take time away from other characters. I'm hoping that this movie is a reboot that ignores any continuity from the last movie.

*Shark_Blade* · 12-11-2015, 06:31 PM

Agree, Eric Sacks is such a joy to watch.

"Drain all of their blood, even if it kills them" lmao

"We thought were gonna use rabbits!"

"M-m-hmmm let me look at you!"

5/5 stars charismatic actor.

*sdp* · 12-12-2015, 03:18 PM

It's not that Eric Sachs was an amazing character but he had potential that could be brought out in a sequel. Like most things in the first movie it was a half=baked idea that didn't really pan out great but that can be fixed why do people want to ignore a character that had a prominent role and is just now magically forgotten? I hate when shows do that, especially if things can be reworked. There are plenty of examples of characters who are later redeemed in shows and even movies.

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

What comic or cartoon did he come from again? Did I miss an episode, or an issue somewhere? Using him as Shredder (before the rewrite) was the biggest mistake ever.

You could say that about Beebop & Rocksteady and most of the OT ideas that were entirely original. Tokka/Rahzar/Tatsu all popular on their own right were original characters. Old Hob? Should a franchise not create original characters? What a boring franchise that is.

Sachs was never Shredder in the movie, never thought about it during the movie and it was only after being carefully analyzed and leaks on the internet from uber fans that the mystery was solved and we know what happened but because of the rewrites he was never Shredder, do you know how many Blockbuster movies have rewrites? Hell are we going to consider that Obi Wan killed Luke Skywalkers father as a huge mistake because that was the original line? Come on.

*CyberCubed* · 12-12-2015, 03:20 PM

Sachs needs a blade through his chest, or his throat slit, or have Bebop and Rocksteady tear him limb from limb after mutation.

The fact that this guy was almost passed off as the Shredder sends shivers down my spine to this day.

*sdp* · 12-12-2015, 03:29 PM

It didn't, get over it.

*CyberCubed* · 12-12-2015, 03:31 PM

But that was only because of fandom backlash, remember they wanted to make the Turtles into aliens at first too. Its rather obvious the hasty movie re-writes happened because the backlash against a white Shredder and alien Turtles was so strong it caused them to change the movie.

Too bad the outcry against Turtle nostrils wasn't as large, maybe we could have gotten those hideous noses removed as well.

*sdp* · 12-12-2015, 03:40 PM

You have a point there, the backlash was for the better, it was too late to completely fix the first film but they rescued it from what it could've been and make a sequel that may prove to be extremely fun and an unexpected sumer movie that is now on the radar of people. We just disagree on what to do with Sachs.

*pennydreadful* · 12-12-2015, 04:35 PM

Fifty bucks says that Cubed sleeps with a pic of Erich Sachs under his pillow.

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-12-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pennydreadful

Fifty bucks says that Cubed sleeps with a pic of Erich Sachs under his pillow.

that and he secretly enjoys looking at turtle nostrils

nellyp · 12-12-2015, 06:30 PM

The movies page on IMDb does have Sachs still in it so surely he will play some role whether minor or not who knows. I am glad he wasn't shredder in the first movie but I didn't hate his role in the final product.

*IndigoErth* · 12-12-2015, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Agree, Eric Sacks is such a joy to watch.

"Drain all of their blood, even if it kills them" lmao

"We thought were gonna use rabbits!"

"M-m-hmmm let me look at you!"

5/5 stars charismatic actor.

Some of the best bad writing from that film thanks to the actor.

How does someone not read that in the script and look up from it like, "Really?"

*Ninjinister* · 12-12-2015, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nellyp

The movies page on IMDb does have Sachs still in it so surely he will play some role whether minor or not who knows. I am glad he wasn't shredder in the first movie but I didn't hate his role in the final product.

Doesn't necessarily mean a thing. Half that stuff is never fact-checked.

*CyberCubed* · 12-14-2015, 09:54 PM

Maybe Shredder will test the mutagen on Sach's first before he mutates Bebop/Rocksteady to see how it works. Except with Sach's it backfires and he mutates into a pile of puke on the floor. Shredder quickly scoops it up and throws it in the trash.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-14-2015, 10:26 PM

Or he mutates into- y'know what? Never mind. He's better off just sitting in prison for that crap-tastic evil scheme he tried to pull.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 12-15-2015, 09:19 AM

Either reveal the bozo is Krang, or say he was Baxter in disguise all along. He serves no purpose now as he is.

*victory_angel* · 12-15-2015, 11:06 AM

Sachs did say in that last film that he was raised by the Shredder.

He tells April that he was born in Japan and was essentially left behind by both is parents (through death and other things), leaving him an orphan in a country where he didn't really belong.

And the last we see of the Shredder he has that one little bit of mutagen on his finger. So two possibility here...

The Shredder in the last film was Oroku Nagi and the Shredder in this film is his brother or son.

Or the mutagen left on his finger was not only able to heal him from that fatal fall, but was also able to restore his youth.

As for Sachs, he will have likely been arrested as April and Vernon would have been able to tell the authorities that he had been trying to unleash a virus upon the city. But given the fact he's already 'stupid rich' he had likely made bail but his reputation would be ruined.

I think if anything he would have a small role in this film, but I think he could be mutated if anything.

12-10-2015, 10:38 PM	#24
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,645	Contracts can be changed, broken, or release from. Sachs had no place in a TMNT movie. What comic or cartoon did he come from again? Did I miss an episode, or an issue somewhere? Using him as Shredder (before the rewrite) was the biggest mistake ever. Just let him rot in prison, he doesn't need to be in the sequel. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-12-2015, 03:29 PM	#29
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12-12-2015, 03:40 PM	#31
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,121	You have a point there, the backlash was for the better, it was too late to completely fix the first film but they rescued it from what it could've been and make a sequel that may prove to be extremely fun and an unexpected sumer movie that is now on the radar of people. We just disagree on what to do with Sachs. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

12-12-2015, 04:35 PM	#32
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12-14-2015, 10:26 PM	#38
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Or he mutates into- y'know what? Never mind. He's better off just sitting in prison for that crap-tastic evil scheme he tried to pull. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-11-2015, 06:20 PM	#25
sethmartin Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 706	Eric Sachs was my favorite character in the last movie. He was by far the most interesting, but I credit that to the actor. Fichtner is just fun to watch. However, I agree that Sacks shouldn't be in this. He would just take time away from other characters. I'm hoping that this movie is a reboot that ignores any continuity from the last movie.

12-11-2015, 06:31 PM	#26
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Agree, Eric Sacks is such a joy to watch. "Drain all of their blood, even if it kills them" lmao "We thought were gonna use rabbits!" "M-m-hmmm let me look at you!" 5/5 stars charismatic actor.

12-12-2015, 03:20 PM	#28
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,699	Sachs needs a blade through his chest, or his throat slit, or have Bebop and Rocksteady tear him limb from limb after mutation. The fact that this guy was almost passed off as the Shredder sends shivers down my spine to this day.

12-12-2015, 03:31 PM	#30
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,699	But that was only because of fandom backlash, remember they wanted to make the Turtles into aliens at first too. Its rather obvious the hasty movie re-writes happened because the backlash against a white Shredder and alien Turtles was so strong it caused them to change the movie. Too bad the outcry against Turtle nostrils wasn't as large, maybe we could have gotten those hideous noses removed as well.

12-12-2015, 06:30 PM	#34
nellyp Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Moncton, NB, Canada Posts: 545	The movies page on IMDb does have Sachs still in it so surely he will play some role whether minor or not who knows. I am glad he wasn't shredder in the first movie but I didn't hate his role in the final product.

12-14-2015, 09:54 PM	#37
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,699	Maybe Shredder will test the mutagen on Sach's first before he mutates Bebop/Rocksteady to see how it works. Except with Sach's it backfires and he mutates into a pile of puke on the floor. Shredder quickly scoops it up and throws it in the trash.

12-15-2015, 09:19 AM	#39
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Either reveal the bozo is Krang, or say he was Baxter in disguise all along. He serves no purpose now as he is. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

12-15-2015, 11:06 AM	#40
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	Sachs did say in that last film that he was raised by the Shredder. He tells April that he was born in Japan and was essentially left behind by both is parents (through death and other things), leaving him an orphan in a country where he didn't really belong. And the last we see of the Shredder he has that one little bit of mutagen on his finger. So two possibility here... The Shredder in the last film was Oroku Nagi and the Shredder in this film is his brother or son. Or the mutagen left on his finger was not only able to heal him from that fatal fall, but was also able to restore his youth. As for Sachs, he will have likely been arrested as April and Vernon would have been able to tell the authorities that he had been trying to unleash a virus upon the city. But given the fact he's already 'stupid rich' he had likely made bail but his reputation would be ruined. I think if anything he would have a small role in this film, but I think he could be mutated if anything. __________________