Why did Mikey use a grappling hook in the last few seasons?? - Page 2

rayfillet101 · 03-03-2004, 01:23 PM

I imatate donatello all the time! Its so fun! people look at me like im crazy! Does anyone have pics of mikey with his grappling hook cuz im having trouble visalizing this!

~~Jarrah White~~ · 03-03-2004, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rayfillet101

I imatate donatello all the time! Its so fun! people look at me like im crazy! Does anyone have pics of mikey with his grappling hook cuz im having trouble visalizing this!

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**Kali** · 03-03-2004, 01:36 PM

Why are 'chucks more "violent" than sai and katana? They aren't necessarily, it's just that 'chucks were/are used by gangs in many countries, and they are also rather easy to make, and conceal. Sai and katana are theoretically harder to get a hold of.

It was the association with gangs that made parents upset.

MW8979 · 03-03-2004, 02:39 PM

Unfortunately, this is absolutely true. This is also the reason why foot soldiers don't use real bullets, only lasers, which don't hurt anyone. Even the cool submachine gun sound effects from season 1 were take out in season 2.

THE-X-FLO · 03-03-2004, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder84

This is also the reason why foot soldiers don't use real bullets, only lasers

Well that didn't seem weird that Foot Soldier robots used lasers like that, but when it came to police men or mere crooks this was pretty ridiculous

Orochi Chimera · 03-04-2004, 11:11 AM

That maybe why the foot soiders were robots to begin with. Destroying a robot is no big deal.

*heretic888* · 03-04-2004, 11:25 AM

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But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!

Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

Krangfan · 03-04-2004, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

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But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!

Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

well, yeah. I put the lauging smilie up b/c it's ironic that they'd put something just as violent in...

**Jester** · 03-04-2004, 01:02 PM

really....wow....i'd have never known....i just think the whole over reaction to nunchuck is a bit off....it's just a toon....and the only chucks kiddos are gonna get r the ones made by playmates

Orochi Chimera · 03-04-2004, 01:12 PM

They were possibly worried that they would be to easy to make. Basically two sticks and a chain but a variety of materials could be used for the same effect.

I still find this kind of censorship ridiculous.

Hyper Metal Sonic · 03-04-2004, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orochichimera

That maybe why the foot soiders were robots to begin with. Destroying a robot is no big deal.

The foot were robots so that they turtles could slice into them with no blood. Same goes with Jedi and the battle droids.

jestergoblin · 03-04-2004, 07:16 PM

Ok... here is the history of mikey's weapons to the best of my knowledge...

The nunchakus became a grappling hook for multiple reasons: first, the nunchaku is much easier to recreate than a sai or a katana. On top of that, I believe that nunchakus do an incredible job multiplying force with little effort just by swinging them around. In addition to that, the whole gang relation is true, it can be seen the whole UK rerelease of TMNT.

In next mutation, the reason for Mikey's weapon change was that it was a low budget show over all and they were not able to have a person trained with nunchakus. This may get some backlash but its much easier to have someone fake swords play than to fake nunchakus, so Mikey got the tonfas.

Now about the foot soldiers, it was so Leo and Raph could use their blades.

*Deathknight* · 03-05-2004, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by heretic888

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But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!

Laugh all you want, but I know people that are quite skilled with the kaginawa that could make you eat those words.

A 'grappling hook' is just as deadly as a nunchaku or katana, given the right training.

Very true, but not the way Mikey used it. The only thing he did with it was he used it to climb and attempt to tie people up. Not exactly effective.

**Jester** · 03-05-2004, 02:00 PM

Thanks jestergoblin....

~~Jarrah White~~ · 03-05-2004, 02:11 PM

If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

TMNTFanCrys · 03-05-2004, 04:14 PM

But I think Don's weapon is pretty dangerous as well. I mean him in the second movie, all he did was knock everyone in the face! LOL...looked like it hurt too...

Sheila · 03-05-2004, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Krangfan

So, if the 'chucks are too violent, what about the katanas or sais? I'll never know. And they should've at least taken Donatello's weapons away, seeing as it's the easiest for kids to imitate. But when you think about it, a grappling hook could do a lot of damage!

Ya! That's a good question I want to ask also.
I think katana and sai are more violent than chunks

**Machias Banshee** · 03-05-2004, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White

If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

Don't even TRY to involve politics here...

jestergoblin · 03-05-2004, 09:02 PM

Sheila, it's not that nunchakus are more dangerous, its that it is much easier for a novice to hurt themselves. Any idiot knows not to touch the sharp part of a sword. An idiot won't be able to smack themselves in the face with a bo to serious damage (MAYBE if they were twirling it).

With nunchakus, it is much easier for a novice to swing them around and create enough general force to break their own arm by accident. I believe it takes 80 pounds of force per square inch to break a bone and a nunchaku can easily create twice as much force in the hands of a master.

Also, how many kids have access to a forge and the ability to make their own swords? Not many, right? How many kids can get rope and two pieces of wood? A lot more. Kids will imitate what they see and it is easiier to make a set of nunchakus than a pair of swords. Now kids never see Leo hitting himself with katanas, but Mikey would do tricks with the nunchakus that looked like he was hitting himself. Sound like a problem?

**Barkworm** · 03-05-2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

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Originally Posted by Jarrah White

If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

Don't even TRY to involve politics here...

But that is sooooo true. Some parents are just plain stupid...

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03-03-2004, 01:23 PM	#21
rayfillet101 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,454	I imatate donatello all the time! Its so fun! people look at me like im crazy! Does anyone have pics of mikey with his grappling hook cuz im having trouble visalizing this! __________________ "When you scream my name, pleading for the pain to stop, you may call me...Bishop."

03-04-2004, 01:02 PM	#29
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	really....wow....i'd have never known....i just think the whole over reaction to nunchuck is a bit off....it's just a toon....and the only chucks kiddos are gonna get r the ones made by playmates __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-05-2004, 02:00 PM	#34
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,298	Thanks jestergoblin.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-05-2004, 04:14 PM	#36
TMNTFanCrys Thug Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Louisiana, USA Posts: 63	..Maybe it's just me... But I think Don's weapon is pretty dangerous as well. I mean him in the second movie, all he did was knock everyone in the face! LOL...looked like it hurt too... __________________

03-03-2004, 01:36 PM	#23
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Why are 'chucks more "violent" than sai and katana? They aren't necessarily, it's just that 'chucks were/are used by gangs in many countries, and they are also rather easy to make, and conceal. Sai and katana are theoretically harder to get a hold of. It was the association with gangs that made parents upset.

03-03-2004, 02:39 PM	#24
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	Unfortunately, this is absolutely true. This is also the reason why foot soldiers don't use real bullets, only lasers, which don't hurt anyone. Even the cool submachine gun sound effects from season 1 were take out in season 2.

03-04-2004, 11:11 AM	#26
Orochi Chimera Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,289	That maybe why the foot soiders were robots to begin with. Destroying a robot is no big deal.

03-04-2004, 01:12 PM	#30
Orochi Chimera Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,289	They were possibly worried that they would be to easy to make. Basically two sticks and a chain but a variety of materials could be used for the same effect. I still find this kind of censorship ridiculous.

03-04-2004, 07:16 PM	#32
jestergoblin Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,466	Ok... here is the history of mikey's weapons to the best of my knowledge... The nunchakus became a grappling hook for multiple reasons: first, the nunchaku is much easier to recreate than a sai or a katana. On top of that, I believe that nunchakus do an incredible job multiplying force with little effort just by swinging them around. In addition to that, the whole gang relation is true, it can be seen the whole UK rerelease of TMNT. In next mutation, the reason for Mikey's weapon change was that it was a low budget show over all and they were not able to have a person trained with nunchakus. This may get some backlash but its much easier to have someone fake swords play than to fake nunchakus, so Mikey got the tonfas. Now about the foot soldiers, it was so Leo and Raph could use their blades.

03-05-2004, 02:11 PM	#35
~~Jarrah White~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 2,394	If the parents want to complain about violence why don't they start with the greater acts of violence that's been going on in Iraq or Afghanistan? Something that is actually real, not some fantasy show.

03-05-2004, 09:02 PM	#39
jestergoblin Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,466	Sheila, it's not that nunchakus are more dangerous, its that it is much easier for a novice to hurt themselves. Any idiot knows not to touch the sharp part of a sword. An idiot won't be able to smack themselves in the face with a bo to serious damage (MAYBE if they were twirling it). With nunchakus, it is much easier for a novice to swing them around and create enough general force to break their own arm by accident. I believe it takes 80 pounds of force per square inch to break a bone and a nunchaku can easily create twice as much force in the hands of a master. Also, how many kids have access to a forge and the ability to make their own swords? Not many, right? How many kids can get rope and two pieces of wood? A lot more. Kids will imitate what they see and it is easiier to make a set of nunchakus than a pair of swords. Now kids never see Leo hitting himself with katanas, but Mikey would do tricks with the nunchakus that looked like he was hitting himself. Sound like a problem?