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[Foot Soldier Clang]

I'm hoping that sometime in the future April gets a solo episode where we can learn more about her abilities and maybe learn more about why she seems to be immune to mutagen. Or at least an episode where April is plot a, and the turtles are plot b.

[Luckyday]

^Don't hold your breath over this but the next episode call "the kraang connection" might have something to do with that.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Does the little girl have a name?
Then I hazard to say she doesn't really count as a female protagonist. Now if she shows up again and gets a name that's a horse of an entirely different color.

And I hope she does. That was awesome. Like Mrs Rosetti in Dooney's "Challenges" graphic novel.

Don't actually lose sleep on the name thing. I've no doubt that tumblr is hard at work making one for her.

No, but she's still one more female character even if she isn't a main one. I actually named her Abby and am writing a fan fiction about her that takes place when Leo returns to visit her just as he promised he would.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Foot Soldier Clang

and maybe learn more about why she seems to be immune to mutagen.

But she's not immune to mutagen. That we've seen.

[BubblyShell22]

Exactly. She's immune to the Kraang water as far as we know.

[Avatar Yuffie]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Yes, because the nameless girl we don't know cures everything. /sarcasm

Apparently there's some talk in tumblr going on around there. It's interesting to note it's not Ciro who's the problem. It's everyone in the animation industry.

Like Paul Dini confirming Young Justice was cancelled because there was an increase of female viewers and they don't buy toys excuse.

http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/...ywoods-fear-of

So if the Turtles aren't careful, the female fans will cancel that show too.

First comic books, then videogames, then cartoons aimed for children. Girls will never be included or noticed as an audience. Sad world.

[The Big Bad]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

So if the Turtles aren't careful, the female fans will cancel that show too.

I realize that you understand that this is not literally the case, but still, could we please not have stuff like this here? Female fans did not get those other shows cancelled, and will not be the reason for TMNT's cancellation, in the exceedingly unlikely case it happens. Just because garbage TV executives don't understand the value of a female audience doesn't mean it's that audience's fault.

[BubblyShell22]

And you do realize that there are female fans of the show, don't you? I'm one of them, and I support this show wholeheartedly. And that was just an excuse that you pointed out anyway. There were probably other reasons the show got cancelled, but the person talking about it didn't want to discuss them. So I don't think it'll be any female's fault that the show gets cancelled at all.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

Yes, because the nameless girl we don't know cures everything. /sarcasm

Apparently there's some talk in tumblr going on around there. It's interesting to note it's not Ciro who's the problem. It's everyone in the animation industry.

Like Paul Dini confirming Young Justice was cancelled because there was an increase of female viewers and they don't buy toys excuse.

http://dcwomenkickingass.tumblr.com/...ywoods-fear-of

So if the Turtles aren't careful, the female fans will cancel that show too.

None of that makes much sense. That Dini statement; or maybe just the attitude he described, presumes that as female viewership goes up, male viewership necessarily goes down. I see no evidence that this is true; therefore, even if female viewers are less likely to buy toys, that's irrelevant when the part of the demographic that does buy them doesn't actually shrink. Granted; it's not a stretch to assume Cartoon Network is full of morons when they crapped out Teen Titans Go, for any reason.

I am guessing real reason YJ failed to sell as many toys as they wanted is partially because the show was often unfocused. I liked it, but it did tend to trip over its own ambition it times; switching from character to character and arc to arc. There probably was not enough time to get people interested in individual characters.

Originally Posted by Avatar Yuffie

First comic books, then videogames, then cartoons aimed for children. Girls will never be included or noticed as an audience. Sad world.

That's way too gloom and doom. First of all, there are female protagonists in video games and graphic novels. Maybe not many, and many of them are at least partially intended for the males, but they are there. Second, girls are definitely "noticed" as an audience, and have been for a long time. The question is just whether what producers are giving the girls is what they actually want to watch. We still have My Little Pony, Strawberry Shortcake, Sabrina the Teenaged Witch, and Tinkerbell in whatever current incarnation they're in now. If girls want to watch the "boys'" shows instead, that should be fine, but it does make it a bit harder for producers to plan.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

That's way too gloom and doom. First of all, there are female protagonists in video games and graphic novels. Maybe not many, and many of them are at least partially intended for the males, but they are there. Second, girls are definitely "noticed" as an audience, and have been for a long time. The question is just whether what producers are giving the girls is what they actually want to watch. We still have My Little Pony, Strawberry Shortcake, Sabrina the Teenaged Witch, and Tinkerbell in whatever current incarnation they're in now. If girls want to watch the "boys'" shows instead, that should be fine, but it does make it a bit harder for producers to plan.

you know what....there shouldn't be a "boys show" or a "girls show" there should just be shows.

When I was a kid all I watched were the action cartoons I never watched My little Pony.....or Sabrina......(I watch MLP now though XD)

Kim Possible was awesome! and there were ALOT of dudes that watched that cause it was just a "show" for anyone.

I guess labeling shows makes it easier though....but I still feel it's a little outdated in this time and age where little girls are also crazy about TMNT and Avengers right now.

[Konchadunga]

We've moved forward. Not enough, but we're above where we were in the 1980s.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

We've moved forward. Not enough, but we're above where we were in the 1980s.

Guess I'll have to wait another decade or so.

[Papenbrook]

Ciro said on his podcast that the show would become more serious/dark near the end of season 2. I think that would be awesome. I only hope they don't show too much violence, but I would love to see a little blood.

[Powder]

No chance of blood, ever. C'mon now. It's already gotten quite violent though. The way Slash was slamming everyones heads into concrete & stuff... it was pretty shocking, I thought.

[Ashwolf]

Originally Posted by Purple Kraken

Ciro said on his podcast that the show would become more serious/dark near the end of season 2. I think that would be awesome. I only hope they don't show too much violence, but I would love to see a little blood.

that's gonna be awesome, so cant wait 4 it, and they show some at least some blood

[Vicky82]

Do they still show blood in childrens cartoons these days, I can't remember the last time I saw blood in a cartoon (the 90s I think).

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Vicky82

Do they still show blood in childrens cartoons these days, I can't remember the last time I saw blood in a cartoon (the 90s I think).

The episode called "The Pit" on Adventure Time. We see Jake's blood being suck out his body by a demon.

[Powder]

Adventure Time isn't /totally/ a childrens cartoon, though... First of all, it's PG & has a 7pm EST time slot, secondly it's loaded with sexual innuendo.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Powder

No chance of blood, ever. C'mon now. It's already gotten quite violent though. The way Slash was slamming everyones heads into concrete & stuff... it was pretty shocking, I thought.

Not to mention how viciously detailed the takedowns became when the foot-bots was introduced, like throat stabbing.

[Ashwolf]

just saying that the show would be a lot more popular if it wasn't really children focused, think of how much better it could be action-wise which is about 85% of the show from my point of view