Why was Casey left out of Secret of Ooze? - Page 3

Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 09:26 PM

Yeah TMNT 2 had empty promises i was so sure B ebop & Rocksteady were in i, and they weren't. And No Krang eirther. Well i'll always have the old cartoon.

BigThew · 12-05-2002, 09:33 PM

i know what the hell, the first episode was great..an origin movie

the 2nd i wanted bebop and Rocksteady and Krang..oh well..maybe they would have been to hard to create on the big screen, or that the writer or director wanted to keep it like the Mirage Comic book

Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 09:35 PM

It just sucks. Tokka & Rahzar are cool. But Bebop & Rocksteady rocked and desrved to be in that movie. And Krang too with the Technodrome. Now that would have made acoolmovie.

*Duke* · 12-05-2002, 09:48 PM

What the crap is up with any of the turtle movies? I mean the turtle movies and Dumb and Dumber are the greatest movies of all time, but couldn’t they have done a little better with the scripts and stuck with the cartoon and comic books.

Seriously, what's up with splinter not being human? I really can’t comprehend it? Come on, no rat can do ninjitsu in a cage. What were they thinking?

And in the second movie, where was Casey Jones? I kept expecting him to come out of no where and beat the crap out of Tokka and Rahzar. But he didn't even need to do beat the crap out of them because Tokka and Rahzar shouldn't even have been in the movie. It should have been the 2 greatest henchmen of all time Bebop and Rocksteady.

And don't even talk about the third movie. Come on the turtles go back in time and Shedder doesn't have an ancestor there. I mean seriously, I could have written a better script for that movie in my sleep. And the turtle’s costumes sucked. Plus, Casey Jones might as well have stayed at home because he did absolutely nothing.

Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 09:55 PM

I totally agree with ya Dukesdaddy98 Welcome to the Boards!
Spilinter not being human is something i will never understand. And Bebop & Rocksteady are the greatest henchmen in the world.

But I'm sure Karpo as soon as reading this will go and tell you all about how it was the right way and everything.

*Deathknight* · 12-05-2002, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dukesdaddy98

It should have been the 2 greatest henchmen of all time Bebop and Rocksteady.

Don't you mean henchmutants?

and anyway I agree, Bebop and Rocksteady would've rocked in a live action movie.

Mondo_Gecko · 12-05-2002, 10:37 PM

Ya i like that word Henchmutants.

**Karpo_007** · 12-06-2002, 05:10 AM

I can't belive all you want from future TMNT projects is Rocksteady Bepop and Krang. They are part of a children's cartoon comedy, if a new TMNT movie is made you cant really belive they would use those? If they had used those in the first movie, it would have completely ruined it.

And the Second one was genrally bad. Basicly just made too cartonish. The third one went even further. The first one is the Most darkest TMNT adventure. It comes pretty close to the true TMNT's feeling. No wonder it was a succes.

*Jephael* · 12-06-2002, 05:35 AM

To tell you the truth, I also wish Bebop and Rocksteady would appear in the new toon because I've always liked them. I don't really care though if Krang doesn't come back, because we'll still have the utroms.
Look at it this way: If B+R were to show up in the new show, they'd become as dark and gritty as the other characters.

Sparvid · 12-06-2002, 05:55 AM

I wonder what a Shredder based on his Mirage counterpart would do with Bebop and Rocksteady after they failed for the tenth time...

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 12-06-2002, 07:13 AM

Just two things:

1. What are the utroms? People keep referring to them, and I have no idea who/what they are. Are they something from the comic books?

2. I must be the only person on the planet who enjoyed the third Ninja Turtles movie. Wow, I can't believe how much people detest that film. I liked it better than the first two movies, but most people think it was terrible.

To each his own, I guess.

"Your nightmares have only just begun." - Krang, from "Attack of Big MACC"

**Karpo_007** · 12-06-2002, 07:20 AM

Actually, I think that third wasn't that bad. Especially after the second. Atleast the TMNT used weapons.

Shellfox · 12-06-2002, 08:32 AM

The only bad part of 2 for me was Vanilla Ice, what were they thinking

I liked 3 but it was kinda left field from the others, and I never got the whole legend of a 1000 swords, or what ever that legend was

tekcop · 12-06-2002, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan

1. What are the utroms? People keep referring to them, and I have no idea who/what they are. Are they something from the comic books?

Yes they are from the comics. They're an alien race that are partially responsible for the creation of the turtles and seem to be pretty good friends with them. Here's a pic -- Click.

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Originally Posted by Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan

2. I must be the only person on the planet who enjoyed the third Ninja Turtles movie. Wow, I can't believe how much people detest that film. I liked it better than the first two movies, but most people think it was terrible.

I kind of liked the movie. The turtles ues they're weapons in that one.

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Originally Posted by Sparvid

I wonder what a Shredder based on his Mirage counterpart would do with Bebop and Rocksteady after they failed for the tenth time...

I'm sure he'd have them executed.

Raphael-sama · 12-06-2002, 10:15 AM

Please. The second movie should have done alot better, kid-wise, because it was more cartoon-based. Say what you will, Karpo, but back in the early 90s, when a kid sees an ad for a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, he expects a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles he KNOWS. I mean, how many kids in their youth knew about the Mirage comics? Very few, maybe none, I'd wager. So, with no knowledge of this, you go into the movie expecting it to be like the cartoon. It isn't. Kids go up into anarachy, directors make sure the second film is more like the show.

Then again, maybe that's why the first film did so well. You know how critics and adults are: if a kid likes something, and they make a movie of it, it must suck, right? But if the film ISN'T like what the kid likes, and is more dark and moody then the "kiddy" cartoon (punches himself out, argh), then chances are, they're going to watch it with a clear mind. *shrug*

-Badabing.

Aztec General · 12-06-2002, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BigThew

i know what the hell, the first episode was great..an origin movie

the 2nd i wanted bebop and Rocksteady and Krang..oh well..maybe they would have been to hard to create on the big screen, or that the writer or director wanted to keep it like the Mirage Comic book

The 2nd movie had NOTHING to do with the Mirage Comics. So I can assure you that what you said was NOT the reason for the movie being crap.

Aztec General · 12-06-2002, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Karpo_007

I can't belive all you want from future TMNT projects is Rocksteady Bepop and Krang. They are part of a children's cartoon comedy, if a new TMNT movie is made you cant really belive they would use those? If they had used those in the first movie, it would have completely ruined it.

And the Second one was genrally bad. Basicly just made too cartonish. The third one went even further. The first one is the Most darkest TMNT adventure. It comes pretty close to the true TMNT's feeling. No wonder it was a succes.

I'd comment further but you've pretty much said it perfectly.

Mondo_Gecko · 12-06-2002, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Raphael-sama

Please. The second movie should have done alot better, kid-wise, because it was more cartoon-based. Say what you will, Karpo, but back in the early 90s, when a kid sees an ad for a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, he expects a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles he KNOWS. I mean, how many kids in their youth knew about the Mirage comics? Very few, maybe none, I'd wager. So, with no knowledge of this, you go into the movie expecting it to be like the cartoon. It isn't. Kids go up into anarachy, directors make sure the second film is more like the show.

-Badabing.

Thank you which is exactly why Bebop & Rocksteady should have been in it.

**Karpo_007** · 12-06-2002, 11:14 AM

The First movie was for all ages, it was dark and had a good plot. Thats why it was a success. The second one ruined all that(Because parents wanted the movie to be more kid friendly). If Rocksteady and Bebop were in it, it would have still been a less dark less violent movie, so it wouldn't have been any better.

Mondo_Gecko · 12-06-2002, 11:19 AM

Well i don't think there were too many kids going after the first one "Gee it should have been more dark and gritty" Kids loved it because it was a movie of the fav cartoon and kids wanted Bebop & Rocksteady & Krang cuz it was on the show. And they should have had them.
So yes for Adults yes it was too kid friendly and maybe looking back on it now you think its a kid movie but thats what it was supposed to be.

12-06-2002, 05:35 AM	#49
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	To tell you the truth, I also wish Bebop and Rocksteady would appear in the new toon because I've always liked them. I don't really care though if Krang doesn't come back, because we'll still have the utroms. Look at it this way: If B+R were to show up in the new show, they'd become as dark and gritty as the other characters. __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

12-05-2002, 09:26 PM	#41
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	Yeah TMNT 2 had empty promises i was so sure B ebop & Rocksteady were in i, and they weren't. And No Krang eirther. Well i'll always have the old cartoon.

12-05-2002, 09:33 PM	#42
BigThew Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 574	i know what the hell, the first episode was great..an origin movie the 2nd i wanted bebop and Rocksteady and Krang..oh well..maybe they would have been to hard to create on the big screen, or that the writer or director wanted to keep it like the Mirage Comic book

12-05-2002, 09:35 PM	#43
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	It just sucks. Tokka & Rahzar are cool. But Bebop & Rocksteady rocked and desrved to be in that movie. And Krang too with the Technodrome. Now that would have made acoolmovie.

12-05-2002, 09:48 PM	#44
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	What the crap is up with any of the turtle movies? I mean the turtle movies and Dumb and Dumber are the greatest movies of all time, but couldn’t they have done a little better with the scripts and stuck with the cartoon and comic books. Seriously, what's up with splinter not being human? I really can’t comprehend it? Come on, no rat can do ninjitsu in a cage. What were they thinking? And in the second movie, where was Casey Jones? I kept expecting him to come out of no where and beat the crap out of Tokka and Rahzar. But he didn't even need to do beat the crap out of them because Tokka and Rahzar shouldn't even have been in the movie. It should have been the 2 greatest henchmen of all time Bebop and Rocksteady. And don't even talk about the third movie. Come on the turtles go back in time and Shedder doesn't have an ancestor there. I mean seriously, I could have written a better script for that movie in my sleep. And the turtle’s costumes sucked. Plus, Casey Jones might as well have stayed at home because he did absolutely nothing.

12-05-2002, 09:55 PM	#45
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	I totally agree with ya Dukesdaddy98 Welcome to the Boards! Spilinter not being human is something i will never understand. And Bebop & Rocksteady are the greatest henchmen in the world. But I'm sure Karpo as soon as reading this will go and tell you all about how it was the right way and everything.

12-05-2002, 10:37 PM	#47
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	Ya i like that word Henchmutants.

12-06-2002, 05:10 AM	#48
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I can't belive all you want from future TMNT projects is Rocksteady Bepop and Krang. They are part of a children's cartoon comedy, if a new TMNT movie is made you cant really belive they would use those? If they had used those in the first movie, it would have completely ruined it. And the Second one was genrally bad. Basicly just made too cartonish. The third one went even further. The first one is the Most darkest TMNT adventure. It comes pretty close to the true TMNT's feeling. No wonder it was a succes.

12-06-2002, 05:55 AM	#50
Sparvid Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Östersund, Sweden Posts: 860	I wonder what a Shredder based on his Mirage counterpart would do with Bebop and Rocksteady after they failed for the tenth time...

12-06-2002, 07:13 AM	#51
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	Just two things: 1. What are the utroms? People keep referring to them, and I have no idea who/what they are. Are they something from the comic books? 2. I must be the only person on the planet who enjoyed the third Ninja Turtles movie. Wow, I can't believe how much people detest that film. I liked it better than the first two movies, but most people think it was terrible. To each his own, I guess. "Your nightmares have only just begun." - Krang, from "Attack of Big MACC"

12-06-2002, 07:20 AM	#52
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Actually, I think that third wasn't that bad. Especially after the second. Atleast the TMNT used weapons.

12-06-2002, 08:32 AM	#53
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	The only bad part of 2 for me was Vanilla Ice, what were they thinking I liked 3 but it was kinda left field from the others, and I never got the whole legend of a 1000 swords, or what ever that legend was

12-06-2002, 10:15 AM	#55
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	Please. The second movie should have done alot better, kid-wise, because it was more cartoon-based. Say what you will, Karpo, but back in the early 90s, when a kid sees an ad for a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, he expects a film about the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles he KNOWS. I mean, how many kids in their youth knew about the Mirage comics? Very few, maybe none, I'd wager. So, with no knowledge of this, you go into the movie expecting it to be like the cartoon. It isn't. Kids go up into anarachy, directors make sure the second film is more like the show. Then again, maybe that's why the first film did so well. You know how critics and adults are: if a kid likes something, and they make a movie of it, it must suck, right? But if the film ISN'T like what the kid likes, and is more dark and moody then the "kiddy" cartoon (punches himself out, argh), then chances are, they're going to watch it with a clear mind. shrug -Badabing.

12-06-2002, 11:14 AM	#59
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	The First movie was for all ages, it was dark and had a good plot. Thats why it was a success. The second one ruined all that(Because parents wanted the movie to be more kid friendly). If Rocksteady and Bebop were in it, it would have still been a less dark less violent movie, so it wouldn't have been any better.

12-06-2002, 11:19 AM	#60
Mondo_Gecko Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 670	Well i don't think there were too many kids going after the first one "Gee it should have been more dark and gritty" Kids loved it because it was a movie of the fav cartoon and kids wanted Bebop & Rocksteady & Krang cuz it was on the show. And they should have had them. So yes for Adults yes it was too kid friendly and maybe looking back on it now you think its a kid movie but thats what it was supposed to be.