Are you OK with the idea of Splinter being Hamato Yoshi again?

[pannoni1]

With this scenerio, I would like to see Oroku Nagi or Tang Shen references, as in the OT when Splinter was Hamato Yoshi, they didn't appear. It would be cool to see Splinter attack Shen as well as a rat. It would be interesting to see how Yoshi's family would react to seeing him transforming, and if they support it.

[CyberCubed]

Its already been confirmed Hamato Yoshi has a human daughter in this series, and he doesn't know whether she's still alive.

I just hope his daughter doesn't turn out to be Karai. :/

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Its already been confirmed Hamato Yoshi has a human daughter in this series, and he doesn't know whether she's still alive.

I just hope his daughter doesn't turn out to be Karai. :/

If it is Karai, maybe it will be interesting. The untold story may be that Splinter thinks that Tang Shen had a miscarriage, when in truth, she was raped by Oruku Saki and gave birth to her. If she was to tell the truth to Yoshi, she'd die. I don't know. Try making a storyline like that by making it kid-friendly.

If there are two Karais, I wouldn't mind. Maybe the turtles think that the one of the Foot is their sister, but have no idea that their sister is in boarding school and has a more innocent face than the other Karai. Imagine. It will be like a "Who's who?" kind of plot.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Bauer536

If it is Karai, maybe it will be interesting. The untold story may be that Splinter thinks that Tang Shen had a miscarriage, when in truth, she was raped by Oruku Saki and gave birth to her. If she was to tell the truth to Yoshi, she'd die. I don't know. Try making a storyline like that by making it kid-friendly.

That's just it...there's really no way to make rape kid friendly. Why do you think they cut it out of the origin when they did the movie?

[Bauer536]

Originally Posted by Jester

That's just it...there's really no way to make rape kid friendly. Why do you think they cut it out of the origin when they did the movie?

In that case, somebody better think about it fast. I won't mind it if Karai is his daughter, though. I probably won't like that element of the story, but may just watch it because of the turtles and the main stories.
I've survived through Smalliville, and I was a little skeptical when they made Lionel Luthor good helping out Clark. But I still loved it the way it was.

[Jester]

My thinking is that Saki adopts and corrupts Hamato Jane after Yoshi is banished from the Foot Clan, giving us 2 families that are in direct opposition to each other, kinda like the 1st movie (IMO, there is a distinct Splinter's Family vs. Saki's Family parallel.) or even the 4kids series. I see a plot point where the Hamatos try to redeem her. But, I could be wrong. I really can't wait. I've surprised they never explored the possibility of Yoshi and Shen having kids in the past.

[Cowabunga Carl]

Splinter being Yoshi doesn't bother me to much. I mean there is a way to make it work and after all we don't know to what extent Yoshi/Saki relationship will play. As a kid show I can understand why they would want to shy away from the whole murder/rape/revenge origin of Mirage. I still think it should be there but either way it really doesn't bother me.

[Zany Orange Dude]

I am pretty indifferent to whether Splinter is Hamato Yoshi or his pet. There are different aspects I like about each circumstance. I am, however, very excited to see the rivalry between Splinter and the Shredder!:

Even though he is Hamoto Yoshi in this version, I don't think that will change the fact that he see's the turtles as his sons.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jester

That's just it...there's really no way to make rape kid friendly. Why do you think they cut it out of the origin when they did the movie?

Rape was never part of the origin.

[TheSkeletonMan939]

I like this origin. I never thought it made sense that a rat could mimc kung-fu moves.

[Sage Ninja]

I'll admit that I like the Splinter as Hamato Yoshi orgin better than the pet rat. I think there is alotto work with with Splinter being Yoshi. There is something just really tragic about being human and tturned into what is essenticially a monster and being ostersized from normal society.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Rape was never part of the origin.

Re-read the post I quoted...I wasn't talking about the established origin, i was referring to Bauer's post

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Rape was never part of the origin.

Really?
Because that's what it looked like to me.

[Powder]

No rape is implied, if you were assualted while wearing a loose ass robe with nothing else on your tits would be wobblin' too.

[plastroncafe]

If I was assaulted wearing a loose robe my boobs would stay covered. If I were battered, however...

That said, unless there's a word from Kevin and Pete, that's how I read those frames.

[Abnormal Freak]

I never saw the rape implication and usually think people are kinda loony for believing that's what happened.

As for the poll, I don't necessarily like the origin of Splinter being Yoshi, but I don't mind it either.

[Andrew NDB]

The word from Peter is no rape.

Me: When you and Kevin wrote TMNT #1, was it intended to vaguely indicate that Oroku Nagi had raped Tang Shen?"

Peter: I can't speak for Kevin, though I suspect he would agree, but I always thought Nagi had only beaten her. -- PL

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot.....html#comments

[Jester]

It looks like an assault:

[Candy Kappa]

I saw it as Yoshi stopped Nagi before he went that far...

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

it means Splinter isn't trying to avenge his dead master. It also means Splinter won't literally see the Turtles as "his sons" because he was human prior.

IDK Cyber it doesnt matter what origin they use bc he is not blood related so its a mental decision. and they could always give hamato yoshi a master that is mudered by the foot