How would you deal with character redundancy in TMNT? - Page 3

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-08-2013, 12:14 AM

That was kind of my point, though. He's not really part of any duo we've seen, and just doesn't feel "right" as part of a duo with Dogpound/Rahzar. I was just saying that they could turn Xever into Armaggon and he STILL wouldn't make a "duo" with Rahzar. The pairing just doesn't make any sense within the TMNT universes when Rahzar has always been paired with Tokka. Sooner or later, they almost HAVE to either bring in Tokka, or use Slash to fill his role. And with his connection to the turtles, he and Rahzar would make a really nasty team against them. Between them, they know many of the turtles' secrets. And I could certainly see Slash turning to Shredder's side in retaliation for Raph rejecting him.

The Sewer Lord · 12-08-2013, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

What? Wyrm was a mutant leech like Bloodsucker.

You're thinking of Muckman and Joe Eyeball who were mutated garbagemen from trash.

Wasn't Wyrm a garbageman who fell into Shredder's trash?

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Originally Posted by Tazi

And he was a worm not a leech.

OK, now I'm confused.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-08-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord

Wasn't Wyrm a garbageman who fell into Shredder's trash?

No, Muckman was the garbageman. Wym was a mutant leech, just like Bloodsucker was. Cept Bloodsucker was played a lot more serious and was a lot creepier, while Wyrm was all cartoony-looking and such.

*CyberCubed* · 12-08-2013, 02:53 PM

Wyrm was also only in Archie. Shredder mutated Scumbug.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-08-2013, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Wyrm was also only in Archie. Shredder mutated Scumbug.

Coulda sworn Scumbug accidentaly mutated himself...

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-08-2013, 04:16 PM

Does it really matter? A cockroach is a cockroach, IMHO. Never liked Scumbug anyway- what is it with Shredder(and Krang) turning people into mutant bugs anyway? There was even a mantis mutant that resulted from one of their "experiments". (When Shredder briefly discusses the mutagen experiments with Krang in one of the episode of season 2, IIRC. It was a quick screenshot and little more.)

*Coola Yagami* · 12-08-2013, 06:03 PM

The diff is Scumbug was an exterminator hired by Shredder to kill some bugs when he accidentaly tripped and fell into mutagen after a roach bit him.

I still find him different since Scumbug used to be a human and is also an exterminator, instead of just some random roach. Kinda like how Bebop and Rocksteady get their personality from being thugs rather than just random mutated animals.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 12-08-2013, 08:42 PM

I wasn't referring to their personalities (if the Cockroach Terminator even HAS one) so much as the animal in question. It really doesn't matter HOW they mutate, so much as that they ended up as the same type of animal. And there has never been another rhino or warthog mutant, so they don't really figure into the equation. But we've had two foxes, two (or three?) cats, two cockroaches, THREE turtles (counting Venus), two worms (because leeches are technically a part of the annelid family- the same family that earthworms belong to) and two female ninjas(as "redundant" characters, not as mutants).

The Sewer Lord · 12-12-2013, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

No, Muckman was the garbageman. Wym was a mutant leech, just like Bloodsucker was. Cept Bloodsucker was played a lot more serious and was a lot creepier, while Wyrm was all cartoony-looking and such.

Oh yeah, I do remember now! I checked the comic book. While Wyrm did fell into some trash, he still got mutated into a worm. My bad.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Wyrm was also only in Archie.

Yeah, I do remember him being from Archie. His origin was kinda blurry, but I do remember him fighting Scumbug in the sewers.

*Coola Yagami* · 12-13-2013, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by The Sewer Lord

Oh yeah, I do remember now! I checked the comic book. While Wyrm did fell into some trash, he still got mutated into a worm. My bad.

Yeah, I do remember him being from Archie. His origin was kinda blurry, but I do remember him fighting Scumbug in the sewers.

Oh no dude. Wyrm was a leech swimming in Mutagen infected water. He was never human.

The Sewer Lord · 12-14-2013, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Oh no dude. Wyrm was a leech swimming in Mutagen infected water. He was never human.

Oh yeah! I remember now! Although he was some different type of a worm other than a leech. A planarian or something like that...?

*Powder* · 12-14-2013, 03:30 AM

A flatworm.

12-08-2013, 12:14 AM	#41
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	That was kind of my point, though. He's not really part of any duo we've seen, and just doesn't feel "right" as part of a duo with Dogpound/Rahzar. I was just saying that they could turn Xever into Armaggon and he STILL wouldn't make a "duo" with Rahzar. The pairing just doesn't make any sense within the TMNT universes when Rahzar has always been paired with Tokka. Sooner or later, they almost HAVE to either bring in Tokka, or use Slash to fill his role. And with his connection to the turtles, he and Rahzar would make a really nasty team against them. Between them, they know many of the turtles' secrets. And I could certainly see Slash turning to Shredder's side in retaliation for Raph rejecting him. __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-08-2013, 04:16 PM	#46
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Does it really matter? A cockroach is a cockroach, IMHO. Never liked Scumbug anyway- what is it with Shredder(and Krang) turning people into mutant bugs anyway? There was even a mantis mutant that resulted from one of their "experiments". (When Shredder briefly discusses the mutagen experiments with Krang in one of the episode of season 2, IIRC. It was a quick screenshot and little more.) __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-08-2013, 06:03 PM	#47
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,705	The diff is Scumbug was an exterminator hired by Shredder to kill some bugs when he accidentaly tripped and fell into mutagen after a roach bit him. I still find him different since Scumbug used to be a human and is also an exterminator, instead of just some random roach. Kinda like how Bebop and Rocksteady get their personality from being thugs rather than just random mutated animals. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

12-08-2013, 08:42 PM	#48
MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	I wasn't referring to their personalities (if the Cockroach Terminator even HAS one) so much as the animal in question. It really doesn't matter HOW they mutate, so much as that they ended up as the same type of animal. And there has never been another rhino or warthog mutant, so they don't really figure into the equation. But we've had two foxes, two (or three?) cats, two cockroaches, THREE turtles (counting Venus), two worms (because leeches are technically a part of the annelid family- the same family that earthworms belong to) and two female ninjas(as "redundant" characters, not as mutants). __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

12-08-2013, 02:53 PM	#44
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,854	Wyrm was also only in Archie. Shredder mutated Scumbug.

12-14-2013, 03:30 AM	#52
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	A flatworm.