Is Raph the main hero? ***Movie Spoilers obviously*** - Page 3

*Candy Kappa* · 08-12-2014, 01:51 AM

It was confirmed a long time ago during early filming, as that picture have been shown before on the forums.

Spidergreg · 08-12-2014, 01:59 AM

Everyone calls him Vern except you guys....
so forgive me, if you don't get my sarcasm.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-12-2014, 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Who is vernon?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

That's Vern.
Not once did they call him Vernon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Nope, he's Vern.
That would be like calling Raph, Ralph.

Don't assume just 'cos of past incarnations.
So, are you gonna call whoopi goldberg "Burne Thompson" too?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Not really.
I see no resemblance other than the name.

No pink shirt, not a sissy and a wuss and also hits on April???
Not the vernon that i know of.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Who said there's anything wrong with it?
I'm just saying i can't see Vernon in Vern.
Even his name is not the same.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Everyone calls him Vern except you guys....
so forgive me, if you don't get my sarcasm.

Sarcasm? yeah right.

Spidergreg · 08-12-2014, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

The main hero is Vernon.

If it wasn't for him, April won't be able to get the mutagen, and without the mutagen she wouldn't have lured the Shredder away from the boys during the breakdown of the tower (they could've been killed even).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

Who is vernon?

THIS is sarcasm.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-12-2014, 02:32 AM

Okay, whatever.

Midnight Mutant · 08-12-2014, 02:35 AM

Damn. A whole page of debating on whether Vern was Vernon? I thought that was confirmed a LONG time ago. They just obviously took creative liberty with him, which I knew they would given the actor they chose to play him.

*pennydreadful* · 08-12-2014, 03:15 AM

I cannot believe there's an argument about this. I mean, I can, but... damn. *shakes head in disbelief*

*IndigoErth* · 08-12-2014, 11:50 AM

Not really anything important to be right or wrong on really.. It's just Vernon/"Vern," at least he was a better version.

Ok, moving along...

Seems Raph is prob meant to be the central Turtle in this story, though I guess them cutting out that disguised bit with the added focus on him and April seems to have taken that away.

Anton Chigurh · 08-12-2014, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

I cannot believe there's an argument about this. I mean, I can, but... damn. *shakes head in disbelief*

hahahah I know, right?

Mona_Lisa · 08-12-2014, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

In some of the cartoon episodes Vernon totally does hit on April. Is it Donatello's degree where he asks for a kiss????

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spidergreg

This is not true.
Vernon doesn't even like April.
He'd say things like "I'm gonna get a new scoop before she does" etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfWmy9-8l4s
start video at 9 min. 30 seconds..... you can stop at 10 min 20 seconds

My memory was a little foggy but this is still VERNON flirting with April wanting
Mouth to mouth!!!! I didn't lie!!!!

On topic, Raph was awesome in this movie, but he was the ugliest Raph I've ever seen...
I have a question though. How did Raph get knocked out when his brothers was taken? I saw the movie once but the action was so fast no one I went with could answer this question for me!!!!

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-12-2014, 03:10 PM

People think mikey is creepy, yet they seem to want to screw one of the turtles. I am talking about the tmnt fangirls. To me, what mikey said to april is nothing compared to the notion that they act like they want to screw one of them.

*pennydreadful* · 08-12-2014, 09:49 PM

The point that's being made is that unwanted sexual attention from somebody is unappealing. Just because some people want to sex the Turtles, doesn't mean that everybody everywhere wants to sex the Turtles - and therefore, context and respect for boundaries when hitting on someone is important. That's like saying "Well, some people want to bang me, so therefore every person should be ok with me hitting on them." No. Not how it works.

If April is definitely into Mikey in this movie, then him hitting on her isn't a big deal. If she's not displaying sexual or romantic interest in him, then I can understand why people would feel that the repeated come-ons are gross and creeptastic.

*IndigoErth* · 08-12-2014, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mona_Lisa

How did Raph get knocked out when his brothers was taken? I saw the movie once but the action was so fast no one I went with could answer this question for me!!!!

I don't recall seeing it either, maybe it was lost inside explosions. Seems the ceiling, or whatever mass of concrete, fell on him though, since he was climbing out of it later.

*Warhorse* · 08-12-2014, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

The point that's being made is that unwanted sexual attention from somebody is unappealing. Just because some people want to sex the Turtles, doesn't mean that everybody everywhere wants to sex the Turtles - and therefore, context and respect for boundaries when hitting on someone is important. That's like saying "Well, some people want to bang me, so therefore every person should be ok with me hitting on them." No. Not how it works.

If April is definitely into Mikey in this movie, then him hitting on her isn't a big deal. If she's not displaying sexual or romantic interest in him, then I can understand why people would feel that the repeated come-ons are gross and creeptastic.

It's even weirder now, because he's supposed to be a teenager and April is a full grown woman. Hmmmmm. This is so not as cute as the Donny/April thing on Nick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I don't recall seeing it either, maybe it was lost inside explosions. Seems the ceiling, or whatever mass of concrete, fell on him though, since he was climbing out of it later.

I bet, there was a more extended scene, that was cut, to get it under 100 mi

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-12-2014, 10:22 PM

Tmnt fans that are women who act like they want to have sex with one of the tmnt=creepy

Mikey saying creepy stuff to april=Lol, gtfo (Imo)

I found none of the stuff that he said to her creepy, I do not blame him cause I see her as a really good looking woman and would be saying the kind of stuff he said to her as a teenager, if I were him and had the courage to. :3
Why is it that things that are said are only creepy when a guy does it? If a girl does it everything is gravy and no one questions it cause they are blinded by the truth that is that all women aren't as good as they think they are, these people brush stuff under the rug when they show how corrupted and rotten they are. What some of us have to understand is that he is still learning and doesn't know much about female women, he isn't use to being around them in the flesh, this was his first time. Maybe he will use tact next time if she get's offended and if the scene or scenes call for it.

Mellie · 08-12-2014, 10:42 PM

I don't see a problem with it. April never looked disgusted at what Mikey said (that I remember anyways). I don't even think he's serious.. if April was like "ayyy ok turtle boi, let's do this

" I don't think he'd follow through. He's just a jokester that knows nothing about humans.

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-12-2014, 10:47 PM

Another thing is that april didn't care, had she cared she would have told mike to knock it off at some point. But she didn't, so it was rational for mikey to continue.

*IndigoErth* · 08-12-2014, 10:50 PM

She doesn't care because she had men writing her lines and directing her [actress]...

Why are we trying to justify why a scripted character doesn't care. lol

That aside though, at the very least if she was like "Yeah, no, go home, kid" his brothers could probably be trusted to drag him off.

*pennydreadful* · 08-12-2014, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ScrewtheMirageTMNT

Tmnt fans that are women who act like they want to have sex with one of the tmnt=creepy

Mikey saying creepy stuff to april=Lol, gtfo (Imo)

I found none of the stuff that he said to her creepy, I do not blame him cause I see her as a really good looking woman and would be saying the kind of stuff he said to her as a teenager, if I were him and had the courage to. :3
Why is it that things that are said are only creepy when a guy does it? If a girl does it everything is gravy and no questions it cause they are blinded by the truth that is that all women aren't as good as they think they are, these people brush stuff under the rug when they show how corrupted and rotten they are.

At no point did anybody say that inappropriate come-ons by women are ok. With all the eloquence of a drunk eating his own vomit, you stumbled past my point, completely oblivious. Let me break it down for you again: repeated unwanted come-ons by anybody are not ok.

I'm assuming that you're straight, so let me ask you this - if a six foot tall, heavily muscled dude found you attractive, would it be ok for him to repeatedly hit on you even after you repeatedly displayed no interest? Seriously, think about it. Take your time. I'll wait.

Ye gods. It's like pulling teeth sometimes, it really is...

ScrewtheMirageTMNT · 08-12-2014, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pennydreadful

At no point did anybody say that inappropriate come-ons by women are ok. With all the eloquence of a drunk eating his own vomit, you stumbled past my point, completely oblivious. Let me break it down for you again: repeated unwanted come-ons by anybody are not ok.

I'm assuming that you're straight, so let me ask you this - if a six foot tall, heavily muscled dude found you attractive, would it be ok for him to repeatedly hit on you even after you repeatedly displayed no interest? Seriously, think about it. Take your time. I'll wait.

Ye gods. It's like pulling teeth sometimes, it really is...

If I wanted to discuss your previous post, I would have done so. I said what I said cause I wanted to, it had jack to do with your previous post, think what you want to think. I do not care, I just wanted to make points of my own. Listen, april may have shown no interest, but at the same time she also didn't tell him to knock it off.

08-12-2014, 01:51 AM	#41
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	It was confirmed a long time ago during early filming, as that picture have been shown before on the forums. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

08-12-2014, 02:32 AM	#45
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Okay, whatever. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

08-12-2014, 02:35 AM	#46
Midnight Mutant Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 249	Damn. A whole page of debating on whether Vern was Vernon? I thought that was confirmed a LONG time ago. They just obviously took creative liberty with him, which I knew they would given the actor they chose to play him. __________________

08-12-2014, 03:15 AM	#47
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	I cannot believe there's an argument about this. I mean, I can, but... damn. shakes head in disbelief __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

08-12-2014, 09:49 PM	#52
pennydreadful trash Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Australia Posts: 4,546	The point that's being made is that unwanted sexual attention from somebody is unappealing. Just because some people want to sex the Turtles, doesn't mean that everybody everywhere wants to sex the Turtles - and therefore, context and respect for boundaries when hitting on someone is important. That's like saying "Well, some people want to bang me, so therefore every person should be ok with me hitting on them." No. Not how it works. If April is definitely into Mikey in this movie, then him hitting on her isn't a big deal. If she's not displaying sexual or romantic interest in him, then I can understand why people would feel that the repeated come-ons are gross and creeptastic. __________________ Creator of the Technodrome After Dark Discussion Group. PM for an invite (must be over 18 - no exceptions).

08-12-2014, 01:59 AM	#42
Spidergreg Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,423	Everyone calls him Vern except you guys.... so forgive me, if you don't get my sarcasm.

08-12-2014, 11:50 AM	#48
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	Not really anything important to be right or wrong on really.. It's just Vernon/"Vern," at least he was a better version. Ok, moving along... Seems Raph is prob meant to be the central Turtle in this story, though I guess them cutting out that disguised bit with the added focus on him and April seems to have taken that away.

08-12-2014, 03:10 PM	#51
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	People think mikey is creepy, yet they seem to want to screw one of the turtles. I am talking about the tmnt fangirls. To me, what mikey said to april is nothing compared to the notion that they act like they want to screw one of them.

08-12-2014, 10:22 PM	#55
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	Tmnt fans that are women who act like they want to have sex with one of the tmnt=creepy Mikey saying creepy stuff to april=Lol, gtfo (Imo) I found none of the stuff that he said to her creepy, I do not blame him cause I see her as a really good looking woman and would be saying the kind of stuff he said to her as a teenager, if I were him and had the courage to. :3 Why is it that things that are said are only creepy when a guy does it? If a girl does it everything is gravy and no one questions it cause they are blinded by the truth that is that all women aren't as good as they think they are, these people brush stuff under the rug when they show how corrupted and rotten they are. What some of us have to understand is that he is still learning and doesn't know much about female women, he isn't use to being around them in the flesh, this was his first time. Maybe he will use tact next time if she get's offended and if the scene or scenes call for it. Last edited by ScrewtheMirageTMNT; 08-12-2014 at 11:34 PM.

08-12-2014, 10:42 PM	#56
Mellie Foot Soldier Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 184	I don't see a problem with it. April never looked disgusted at what Mikey said (that I remember anyways). I don't even think he's serious.. if April was like "ayyy ok turtle boi, let's do this " I don't think he'd follow through. He's just a jokester that knows nothing about humans.

08-12-2014, 10:47 PM	#57
ScrewtheMirageTMNT Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 493	Another thing is that april didn't care, had she cared she would have told mike to knock it off at some point. But she didn't, so it was rational for mikey to continue.

08-12-2014, 10:50 PM	#58
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	She doesn't care because she had men writing her lines and directing her [actress]... Why are we trying to justify why a scripted character doesn't care. lol That aside though, at the very least if she was like "Yeah, no, go home, kid" his brothers could probably be trusted to drag him off.