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Shreddette · 02-23-2004, 05:03 PM

All that said, it was still my favourite action figure, alongside Usagi Yo Jimbo.

*Wes* · 02-23-2004, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Skeletoncrew

You're faking that innocence! I've never done anything to my Shredder figure like you did!

No, seriously, I'm innocent! But I won't be if this thread continues... Ohhh jeez, talking about the Turtles learning the "ropes" as young'uns? Granted I don't have any kid Turtles, but I've got some pretty freakish alternatives...freakish alternatives with Don King hair. Is anyone else terrified?

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Originally Posted by Shreddette

Like licked his plastic chest?
Snort.

Try having him fisted by MetalHead...

I love these TMNT emoticons.

*Whitewolf89* · 02-24-2004, 09:23 AM

TMNT memoribilia, I can understand, but ruining Saturday mornings with all the "educational" stuff?! Bleah. Saturday mornings are for having fun kicking back watching your favorite toons 'n' such, NOT getting pounded with stuff that is better left for weekdays. That's what SCHOOL is for, or was the last time I looked. Leave Saturday mornings for old-fashioned cartoon fun, and leave the educational stuff in the classroom the rest of the week, where it belongs. I wish they'd drop the 'politically-correct" garbage, too. When was the last time you saw Bugs Bunny being politically-correct, for Pete's sake?! That's what's caused the rest of us to lose some of the greatest cartoon series ever thought of, just 'cause some nitwits up in Washington DC think that they're, and I quote, "Too voilent", end-quote. Why can't they just leave well enough alone for once.?!

Idiots.

MW8979 · 02-24-2004, 03:42 PM

I agree with you on that completely. Political correctness killed a lot of creativity in people (and not only in cartoons) by enforcing stupid rules. Shows have enough standards to put up with as it is to get on tv, but if they have to fill a quota of regulations, just because some people like to see perfect equality on tv, it pretty much limits what you can do and what kind of plots you can make. Some people try too hard.

*Wes* · 02-24-2004, 04:28 PM

What do we mean by "political correctness" here? Or would answering that take us into one of those forbidden topics...?

**Kali** · 02-24-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Wes

What do we mean by "political correctness" here? Or would answering that take us into one of those forbidden topics...?

That would depend on show type. For the new Turtles show, it's aimed at children, so they can't have extreme violence, and the like. Teaching lessons and morals.

It does kill a bit of creativity, but a lot of artists would also consider it a challenge, and enjoy dancing on that line.

*Skeletoncrew* · 02-25-2004, 12:40 AM

Some of us prefer obliterating that line completely.

*Wes* · 02-25-2004, 01:18 AM

Oh, you wacky Skel.

But if that's what you all mean by "political correctness" -- lack of extreme violence and positive messages -- then I'm definitely a fan of that. Most of the values I hold now I initially got from cartoons like TMNT (I certainly didn't get them from my parents) and rediscovered in my philosophical inquiries. But I don't think that would have happened if I hadn't already been receptive to them, so yeah, I think that's definitely something kids should have -- they'd probably be better adults for it, and the would would be a better place.

And I've got to admit, I blanched when Leo decapitated the Shredder. I was like, "WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?" "That," I thought, "was too much." And then I had to say it again after he picked his damned head up and strode off into the darkness.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 02-25-2004, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Skeletoncrew

Some of us prefer obliterating that line completely.

I'm all for THAT!

**Kali** · 02-25-2004, 10:00 AM

I myself am not a fan of gratuitous violence (or sexuality, which has nothing to do with this show, but thought I'd throw it in here anyway) but some stories do require some violence, like this show. As long as there's a reason for it, and it isn't "just because it's cooler". Shredder's beheading was necessary, and not just because it's gruesome and shocking, but because that, and his walking away from it, gave a lot to the story. I do believe that lessons should be learned, both for the characters and the viewers. That's a part of life.

Strange thing is that parents scream "Foul!" if there's so much as a slap on a cartoon, yet they let, and even insist that their children watch the news, which is a lot more gruesome and upsetting than most shows I could name.

MW8979 · 02-25-2004, 02:33 PM

You're right about that, but I think that it works this way because the news only talks about it or briefly glimpses it, while cartoons show violence in a lot more detail. Still, nothing a few amendments can't change...

*Skeletoncrew* · 02-26-2004, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SuperShredder84

You're right about that, but I think that it works this way because the news only talks about it or briefly glimpses it, while cartoons show violence in a lot more detail. Still, nothing a few amendments can't change...

You must be joking. "...only talks about it or briefly glimpses it..." How many times did the news channels run footage of the World Trade Center being hit by those planes and collapsing? All those people dying in those buildings, and it was REAL. What happened on September 11th was far more traumatic than any cartoon violence I've ever seen. TV news loves violence and graphic images.

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02-24-2004, 09:23 AM	#43
Whitewolf89 Freedom Fighter and Ninja Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Currently residing in the Turtles' Lair, NYC sewer system, NYC, NY Posts: 2,927	TMNT memoribilia, I can understand, but ruining Saturday mornings with all the "educational" stuff?! Bleah. Saturday mornings are for having fun kicking back watching your favorite toons 'n' such, NOT getting pounded with stuff that is better left for weekdays. That's what SCHOOL is for, or was the last time I looked. Leave Saturday mornings for old-fashioned cartoon fun, and leave the educational stuff in the classroom the rest of the week, where it belongs. I wish they'd drop the 'politically-correct" garbage, too. When was the last time you saw Bugs Bunny being politically-correct, for Pete's sake?! That's what's caused the rest of us to lose some of the greatest cartoon series ever thought of, just 'cause some nitwits up in Washington DC think that they're, and I quote, "Too voilent", end-quote. Why can't they just leave well enough alone for once.?! Idiots. __________________ Brother against brother...........

02-24-2004, 04:28 PM	#45
Wes Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A very scary place. With crayons! Posts: 1,607	What do we mean by "political correctness" here? Or would answering that take us into one of those forbidden topics...? __________________ * Scary-Crayon * Wesoteric * Chew your gum properly, ok? Aaand... Technodrome buy/sell/trade thread here!

02-25-2004, 12:40 AM	#47
Skeletoncrew Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Bearing in on your spicy brains Posts: 3,275	Some of us prefer obliterating that line completely. __________________ Adult TMNT fan art and fiction contest Now accepting entries!

02-25-2004, 01:18 AM	#48
Wes Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: A very scary place. With crayons! Posts: 1,607	Oh, you wacky Skel. But if that's what you all mean by "political correctness" -- lack of extreme violence and positive messages -- then I'm definitely a fan of that. Most of the values I hold now I initially got from cartoons like TMNT (I certainly didn't get them from my parents) and rediscovered in my philosophical inquiries. But I don't think that would have happened if I hadn't already been receptive to them, so yeah, I think that's definitely something kids should have -- they'd probably be better adults for it, and the would would be a better place. And I've got to admit, I blanched when Leo decapitated the Shredder. I was like, "WHAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?" "That," I thought, "was too much." And then I had to say it again after he picked his damned head up and strode off into the darkness. __________________ * Scary-Crayon * Wesoteric * Chew your gum properly, ok? Aaand... Technodrome buy/sell/trade thread here!

02-23-2004, 05:03 PM	#41
Shreddette Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Chained to Shredders Bed Posts: 402	All that said, it was still my favourite action figure, alongside Usagi Yo Jimbo.

02-24-2004, 03:42 PM	#44
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	I agree with you on that completely. Political correctness killed a lot of creativity in people (and not only in cartoons) by enforcing stupid rules. Shows have enough standards to put up with as it is to get on tv, but if they have to fill a quota of regulations, just because some people like to see perfect equality on tv, it pretty much limits what you can do and what kind of plots you can make. Some people try too hard.

02-25-2004, 10:00 AM	#50
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	I myself am not a fan of gratuitous violence (or sexuality, which has nothing to do with this show, but thought I'd throw it in here anyway) but some stories do require some violence, like this show. As long as there's a reason for it, and it isn't "just because it's cooler". Shredder's beheading was necessary, and not just because it's gruesome and shocking, but because that, and his walking away from it, gave a lot to the story. I do believe that lessons should be learned, both for the characters and the viewers. That's a part of life. Strange thing is that parents scream "Foul!" if there's so much as a slap on a cartoon, yet they let, and even insist that their children watch the news, which is a lot more gruesome and upsetting than most shows I could name.

02-25-2004, 02:33 PM	#51
MW8979 Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 431	You're right about that, but I think that it works this way because the news only talks about it or briefly glimpses it, while cartoons show violence in a lot more detail. Still, nothing a few amendments can't change...