The CONFIRMED New Season - Page 38

*VaughnMichael* · 12-22-2007, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by tcclives23

I agree . . . for the most part. However, there was one part in particular (well that I can remember) that was really dark and violent. Exodus Pt. 2. Shredder kicked their asses. That was violent! Very cool but also violent. Huh, I still cringe when Shredder breaks Raph's back and Mikey's legs.

You know I do also but it's more the noise of it than the visual.

The Shelf · 12-22-2007, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Yes when we were 7. You do realize that it's alot different now then it was when we were kids right? Cartoons for the most part are all dumbed down for little kids to watch. Shows like Batman TAS were the norm back then not anymore. 2K3 turtles is going against the current not with it like everything else.

Erm, no. Things aren't nearly as different as you think, only your perception of it because you're older now. Seriously, there were so many cartoons that I watched when I was younger, and when I watch them now (despite my desire to say otherwise if only out of nostalgia) I realize that they weren't nearly as awesome as I thought when I was a kid. Batman TAS was a special case. It was no more or less part of the norm back then than it is now.

But I agree with you on one thing, at least. Friendlier cartoons like Fast Forward are definitely more profitable than more serious cartoons like 2k3. This shouldn't surprise anyone. Even the best R-rated movies are never as successful as the best PG-rated movies. Why? Because they entertain a wider audience. It's no different with cartoons or anything else for that matter.

*gobo* · 12-22-2007, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by The Shelf

Even the best R-rated movies are never as successful as the best PG-rated movies.

Anyone know how bad PG-rated movies can be before they get less profitable than the best R-rated movies? That'd be interesting.

*Spitfire* · 12-22-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by The Shelf

Erm, no. Things aren't nearly as different as you think, only your perception of it because you're older now. Seriously, there were so many cartoons that I watched when I was younger, and when I watch them now (despite my desire to say otherwise if only out of nostalgia) I realize that they weren't nearly as awesome as I thought when I was a kid. Batman TAS was a special case. It was no more or less part of the norm back then than it is now.

I'm, not speaking on how good the series is I'm speaking on the level of violence and adult humor allowed into the series.

*gobo* · 12-22-2007, 01:34 PM

Adult humor? Meaning in 2K3? O_o If so, I don't recall any. Examples, please...

*Spitfire* · 12-22-2007, 01:40 PM

Where was I talking about 2K3 in that last comment?

Cartoons in the 80's and 90's were more violent and filled with more adult humor then they are allowed to now. This is due to parents being more over protective of their kids and what they watch.

Now why I brought this up was to explain this point, which does involve 2K3 but not in the context you thought I was talking about.

2K3 being re-vamped to FF doesn't surprise me at all, and if you look the ratings were higher for FF so when the new series comes out expect a hybrid of the two. 2K3 will never come back. Serling being in the new season is a testament to what I'm saying.

syk_skillz · 12-22-2007, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Adult humor? Meaning in 2K3? O_o If so, I don't recall any. Examples, please...

I remember the phrase "compensate much?" said to Mikey but that was in FF

*gobo* · 12-22-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Where was I talking about 2K3 in that last comment?

I was under the impression that "if so" was a good-enough indicator that I wasn't sure. Chill.

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Originally Posted by syk_skillz

I remember the phrase "compensate much?" said to Mikey but that was in FF

"Overcompensate much?" might make people think about particular situations, but it wasn't used in an even questionable manner. That's like saying Tinky-Winky was a gay-joke. So, that was just a regular joke with slightly suggestive wording. Thanks for the example though.

*Cure* · 12-22-2007, 07:19 PM

Justice League had lotsa adult humor, and that show ended only recently. I remember The Flash getting accused of watching porn and whatnot.

Leonardo Mystic · 12-23-2007, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

Adult humor? Meaning in 2K3? O_o If so, I don't recall any. Examples, please...

I can recall a really good one from Return New York Part One. It was half of Raphael's opening dialogue at the beginning. "They say the difference between men and boys is the size of their toys. If that's the case, I'd say I just became a man. Or at least an adult mutant ninja turtle."

He was piloting that flying laser cannon as he said it, but it has bigger implications than simply reference to the machine. o_o I don't think I'll ever forget that.

*Spitfire* · 12-23-2007, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCure

Justice League had lotsa adult humor, and that show ended only recently. I remember The Flash getting accused of watching porn and whatnot.

That's a very good point, DC always got away with stuff like that though. It seems like networks always turned their heads on DC shows and let them do what they want. Hence why their so good right? Man I miss Batman TAS.

*ToTheNines* · 12-23-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo Mystic

I can recall a really good one from Return New York Part One. It was half of Raphael's opening dialogue at the beginning. "They say the difference between men and boys is the size of their toys. If that's the case, I'd say I just became a man. Or at least an adult mutant ninja turtle."

I personally don't see this as adult humor, it's pretty clean cut.

*gobo* · 12-23-2007, 07:48 PM

I didn't want to say it. The point that defines adult humor is being undeniably about sexual relations. Other than Raph saying he just became a man, there was nothing suggestive about it.

The Shelf · 12-23-2007, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I'm, not speaking on how good the series is I'm speaking on the level of violence and adult humor allowed into the series.

I don't remember much adult humor in old cartoons (at least no more than what we see now in cartoons) and the level of violence is about the same if not higher now than before. Spider-man rarely, if ever, threw a punch in the 90's cartoon. The fighting in the original TMNT cartoon while cool at the time is rather laughable if you watch it now. Avatar, Naruto, 2k3 TMNT, and several others are all about as violent as any cartoon I can think of from the 80's and 90's.

I just can't believe that cartoons these days are more dumbed down than cartoons back then.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-23-2007, 11:17 PM

Exactly. People making that claim either

1. Dont look hard enough, nor want to
2. Are biased to the shows THEY used to watch and think they establish the standard for shows that modern audiences watch, when there's a 50% chance there watching similar shows alongside lighter shows.

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Originally Posted by The Shelf

The fighting in the original TMNT cartoon while cool at the time is rather laughable if you watch it now.n.

Except the original TMNT isnt ABOUT the fighting, and will elitists STOP using the "laughable if you watch it now" excuse? Others dont have that opinion

*Spitfire* · 12-24-2007, 04:07 AM

Avatar was canceled I seem to recall, and Naurto is heavily censored for US television, also I believe it's TV-14 meaning not for young kids.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-24-2007, 04:27 AM

Avatar was meant to be three seasons long, a trilogy. The producers werent stupid enough to assume a show THAT dark would be on for a long time.

The Shelf · 12-24-2007, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Avatar was canceled I seem to recall, and Naurto is heavily censored for US television, also I believe it's TV-14 meaning not for young kids.

Um, Avatar canceled...? Check again. It's one of Nick's most successful cartoons right now. It's on winter break right now and should continue in January. At least, that's what I've heard. And the stuff that is being censored in Naruto sure as heck wasn't in cartoons in the 80's and 90's either. The censored version is TV-PG not TV-14 and manages to show some blood and violence, certainly no less than the good ole' cartoons of yester-year.

Leonardo Mystic · 12-24-2007, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

I didn't want to say it. The point that defines adult humor is being undeniably about sexual relations. Other than Raph saying he just became a man, there was nothing suggestive about it.

Uh, yeah, it is. How often do you hear a cartoon character refer to the size of boys and mens toys? It sounds pretty suggestive to me. Anyone else I've quoted it to sounds sexual to them. Or maybe I or them are not as jaded to it as some folks are.

*Spitfire* · 12-24-2007, 03:36 PM

You all know there's no way your going to win this argument with me because I think I'm right and I'm not bending. I've yet to see anything that has made me think otherwise yet, and when I do I'll admit I'm wrong. But let's just drop the subject cause this going back and fourth is getting nowhere.

Let's leave it at, some people see what I'm talking about, some don't. Is that cool?

12-22-2007, 01:34 PM	#745
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Adult humor? Meaning in 2K3? O_o If so, I don't recall any. Examples, please... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-22-2007, 01:40 PM	#746
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Where was I talking about 2K3 in that last comment? Cartoons in the 80's and 90's were more violent and filled with more adult humor then they are allowed to now. This is due to parents being more over protective of their kids and what they watch. Now why I brought this up was to explain this point, which does involve 2K3 but not in the context you thought I was talking about. 2K3 being re-vamped to FF doesn't surprise me at all, and if you look the ratings were higher for FF so when the new series comes out expect a hybrid of the two. 2K3 will never come back. Serling being in the new season is a testament to what I'm saying. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/ Last edited by Spitfire; 12-22-2007 at 01:48 PM.

12-22-2007, 07:19 PM	#749
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Justice League had lotsa adult humor, and that show ended only recently. I remember The Flash getting accused of watching porn and whatnot. __________________

12-23-2007, 07:48 PM	#753
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I didn't want to say it. The point that defines adult humor is being undeniably about sexual relations. Other than Raph saying he just became a man, there was nothing suggestive about it. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-24-2007, 04:07 AM	#756
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Avatar was canceled I seem to recall, and Naurto is heavily censored for US television, also I believe it's TV-14 meaning not for young kids. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

12-24-2007, 04:27 AM	#757
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,317	Avatar was meant to be three seasons long, a trilogy. The producers werent stupid enough to assume a show THAT dark would be on for a long time. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

12-24-2007, 03:36 PM	#760
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	You all know there's no way your going to win this argument with me because I think I'm right and I'm not bending. I've yet to see anything that has made me think otherwise yet, and when I do I'll admit I'm wrong. But let's just drop the subject cause this going back and fourth is getting nowhere. Let's leave it at, some people see what I'm talking about, some don't. Is that cool? __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/