If they do make a new TMNT cartoon... - Page 4

*ToTheNines* · 06-30-2007, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

What I mean is that I do not want to see a fifth Mutant Ninja Turtle, male or female, that would join the family/team and fight along with them.

Nor do I want to see a completely total new direction or a bizarre plot pulled out of nowhere that is kept in the main continuity. A "Red Sky" equivalent would be passable as long as it stays faithful to Mirage. Another TNM would NOT be.

Oh, ok. I just like to bust on TNM every chance I get.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-30-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Oh, ok. I just like to bust on TNM every chance I get.

Not everything about the next mutation was bad just like most tmnt worlds it had its good points while it was few and far between it did have some good points I have every episode and I just recently watched them all again.
Dr. Quease being the best part and the real last episode where shredder becomes himself again instead of a wacked out homeless man is great.

*CyberCubed* · 06-30-2007, 01:26 PM

Next Mutation didn't really do anything for the TMNT franchise. There's a reason why Mirage pretends it never happened.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-30-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Next Mutation didn't really do anything for the TMNT franchise. There's a reason why Mirage pretends it never happened.

Not everyone from mirage pretrends it didnt happen pretty much only peter laird and he pretends allot of things never happend.
And you are correct it did crap for tmnt but it's still part of the history even if its not that good. To deny one's past is foolish.

*Roseangelo* · 06-30-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

Not everyone from mirage pretrends it didnt happen pretty much only peter laird and he pretends allot of things never happend.
And you are correct it did crap for tmnt but it's still part of the history even if its not that good. To deny one's past is foolish.

Agreed. TNM may not be a high point in the history of the TMNT, but most fans did enjoy it when it was on TV and to completely deny that it ever happened... well, that's as lame as completely altering the comic book that made you rich in the first place.

*gobo* · 06-30-2007, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

How is Shadows back-ground too adult?

The product of a rape? I can't imagine how that would be TMI for a Saturday morning cartoon.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-30-2007, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

The product of a rape? I can't imagine how that would be TMI for a Saturday morning cartoon.

that wasnt shadow though that was gabes background I'm sure they could work around it.

*Scandia* · 06-30-2007, 06:53 PM

Somewhere on Wikipedia it says that Shadow was the product of a one night stand between Gabrielle and a guy named Albert who was the son of a mafioso named Antoine.

One night stand is not a synonym for rape.

Does it state officially that Shadow was the result of non-consensual sex?

It can be worked around that Casey and April meet a woman named Gabrielle who is about to give birth or who has a newborn but who dies shortly afterwards. Casey and April decide to raise Shadow this way. Sad, but nowhere near as controversial.

*Roseangelo* · 06-30-2007, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Somewhere on Wikipedia it says that Shadow was the product of a one night stand between Gabrielle and a guy named Albert who was the son of a mafioso named Antoine.

... And that is why one should not be relying on Wikipedia for information. Especially TMNT information. Most should-be reliable real sources of journalism can't write an accurate article on the TMNT; fake journalism is only going to be worse.

It sounds like part of that comes from the Image books, but those are non-canon.

*ToTheNines* · 06-30-2007, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

Not everything about the next mutation was bad just like most tmnt worlds it had its good points while it was few and far between it did have some good points I have every episode and I just recently watched them all again.
Dr. Quease being the best part and the real last episode where shredder becomes himself again instead of a wacked out homeless man is great.

Did it get better as it went on, becuase I just watched the first 5 episodes the other day and it was pretty terrible. The main thing that pissed me off was they didn't even move their mouths when they talked half the time... and then that gay dream of the old tortise (A new way, WE GOTTA FIND A NEW WAY LEOOOOOO.... then his stupid monolouge at the end THE WAY OF THE TURTLE didn't make sense at all).

*VaughnMichael* · 06-30-2007, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Did it get better as it went on, becuase I just watched the first 5 episodes the other day and it was pretty terrible. The main thing that pissed me off was they didn't even move their mouths when they talked half the time... and then that gay dream of the old tortise (A new way, WE GOTTA FIND A NEW WAY LEOOOOOO.... then his stupid monolouge at the end THE WAY OF THE TURTLE didn't make sense at all).

Like I said most of it was bad and really silly but some episode mostly the dr. quease ones had there good points I happen to like the episodes with Simon Bonesteal and Vam Mi the vampire as well. I happend to like that storyline very much.
I think the shows poor quality is what killed it I try to look past it to be honest even if its really hard to and those eye holes in the face ugh that just kills me and whomever is wicks puppetier is horrid they flop him around like a doll great characters they where just all exicuted so poorly.

*Roseangelo* · 06-30-2007, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

I think the shows poor quality is what killed it

Actually, the show had very good ratings. What killed it was that it was too expensive to produce and because it was a licensed property, Fox didn't make enough money off of it.

Bonesteel is awesome, though.

*VaughnMichael* · 06-30-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Actually, the show had very good ratings. What killed it was that it was too expensive to produce and because it was a licensed property, Fox didn't make enough money off of it.

Bonesteel is awesome, though.

That and the fact that I think that the higher ups didnt like the fact that tmnt was beating power rangers in the ratings.
Yes and my mother loves Bonesteal till this day she still does that kneck crack finger thing hahah cracks me up what a nuttball he is.
He and Qr. Quease or Dr. Feral from the rpgs are two characters I wouldnt mind seeing return in cartoon form.

*odupianist* · 07-01-2007, 07:39 PM

Damn it, now I'm going to have to download some episodes of TNM until a DVD comes out of it, which I doubt will happen.

*Roseangelo* · 07-01-2007, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

Damn it, now I'm going to have to download some episodes of TNM until a DVD comes out of it, which I doubt will happen.

Good luck finding them to download. But England is your friend when it comes to DVDs.

06-30-2007, 06:53 PM	#68
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Somewhere on Wikipedia it says that Shadow was the product of a one night stand between Gabrielle and a guy named Albert who was the son of a mafioso named Antoine. One night stand is not a synonym for rape. Does it state officially that Shadow was the result of non-consensual sex? It can be worked around that Casey and April meet a woman named Gabrielle who is about to give birth or who has a newborn but who dies shortly afterwards. Casey and April decide to raise Shadow this way. Sad, but nowhere near as controversial. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

06-30-2007, 01:26 PM	#63
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,758	Next Mutation didn't really do anything for the TMNT franchise. There's a reason why Mirage pretends it never happened.

07-01-2007, 07:39 PM	#74
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Damn it, now I'm going to have to download some episodes of TNM until a DVD comes out of it, which I doubt will happen.