SSBB Thread: IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!! - Page 4

Peanut · 08-13-2007, 05:45 PM

Luigi wasn't a total clone in Melee, he had a couple of his own specific moves. What I hope they do is give him the Poltergust. That would be awesome.

And I totally agree with Diddy and Dixie. Even if they were a tag-team along the same line as the Ice Climbers. The DK franchise just doesn't have enough respresentation.

As far as Young Link goes, it seems more and more like Midna/Wolf Link will take his place, rather than tWW Link, who I'd prefer.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-13-2007, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Luigi wasn't a total clone in Melee, he had a couple of his own specific moves. What I hope they do is give him the Poltergust. That would be awesome.

And I totally agree with Diddy and Dixie. Even if they were a tag-team along the same line as the Ice Climbers. The DK franchise just doesn't have enough respresentation.

As far as Young Link goes, it seems more and more like Midna/Wolf Link will take his place, rather than tWW Link, who I'd prefer.

I disagree. I see Wolf Link being a Down+B of TP Link, like Sheik before him. It makes too much sense. Also, consider Wind Waker Link has a new game coming out to plug this fall.

As for Diddy & Dixie, they wouldn't have to be like the Ice Climbers. The Ice Climbers were really like one worthless character who had another tag along and do nothing. Nana just bounced around and looked cute. You controlled the Blue one only (Popo I think was his name, or something). Diddy & Dixie could be an actual Down+B tag-team set since the tag-team ability is already included in the game thanks to the Pokemon trainer.

I'm honestly hoping that the reason they haven't shown Mario's move set yet is because he's got a surprise from Galaxy, but I kind of doubt it. And for the record...Poltergust FTMFW.

Peanut · 08-13-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

I disagree. I see Wolf Link being a Down+B of TP Link, like Sheik before him. It makes too much sense. Also, consider Wind Waker Link has a new game coming out to plug this fall.

As for Diddy & Dixie, they wouldn't have to be like the Ice Climbers. The Ice Climbers were really like one worthless character who had another tag along and do nothing. Nana just bounced around and looked cute. You controlled the Blue one only (Popo I think was his name, or something). Diddy & Dixie could be an actual Down+B tag-team set since the tag-team ability is already included in the game thanks to the Pokemon trainer.

I'm honestly hoping that the reason they haven't shown Mario's move set yet is because he's got a surprise from Galaxy, but I kind of doubt it. And for the record...Poltergust FTMFW.

Agreed on all fronts.

I actually never thought of Link having a Down+B transformation move, but it makes perfect sense. And considering 3 out of his 4 moves (Arrow, Bomb, Boomerang) are all pretty sh*tty projectile attacks, I think it's time they gave him something else.

As for Diddy & Dixie, I like the tag team idea, but I still think if they worked as variation of the Ice Climbers, it would be even better. Think of them as one character instead of two, because I don't see them having many interesting moves alone. Make it so that they can't be knocked out individually, ala the Ice Climbers, and have them just be one entity. Together they make an interesting team, but on their own they seem kind of boring.

As far as Mario goes...am I the only one who would love to see the Leaf as a new powerup item? How awesome would it be to grab one and get the Racoon Tail, along with the ear. God, that would be awesome.

*Mecha Cow* · 08-13-2007, 06:13 PM

I really wouldn't count on a transformation move for Link, it would be way too radical of an overhaul for such a major character. Also consider that he's a series' representative, so he can't be too game-specific. It would be like giving Mario FLUDD moves. Like I've said before though, Wolf Link might be a seperate character.

I do hope this game will have alternate costumes. Three might be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps one extra plus a palette swap for both costumes. I mean, Wario needs his classic costume, doesn't he?

Mario/Dr. Mario
Link/Magic Armor Link
Wario/Classic Wario
Samus/Fusion Suit Samus

Etc., etc.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-13-2007, 06:44 PM

Yeah, Wario is probably the giveaway example for why we're likely to get alternate costumes (though I personally prefer Intelligent System's fat farty Wario to their older "angry troll" Wario). If you look at the models in detail, you can tell the costumes are modeled separately from the characters. I think its pretty well written in stone. I just want one thing for Mario....white overalls. I dearly miss the old Fire Mario disco pants circa 1986.

And I've been dreaming of a raccoon tail Super Leaf power-up since the game's announcement.

*Cure* · 08-13-2007, 10:57 PM

Wow, you guys have put a lot of thought into these responses.

For Diddy and Dixie, I think something along Peanut's idea would be cool. Like, instead of tagging out ala Pokemon Trainer or having an exact replica follow you around ala Ice Climbers they could fight as a team, you know? Like, for one standard attack Diddy will use his tail and for another Dixie will use her hair and as a special attack one throws the other a short distance. They're up B will be Dixie's hair glider and so on and so forth. I think that'd be cool.

I agree with Mecha as far as Link. Adding his wolf form would've been good for a final smash, but we all know it's not that. I could see Midna as maybe a support trophy, but I don't really know. Although I also agree his lame projectile attacks need to be changed. The only one I really use is the arrow. Fully charged it does up to 20% damage I think.

The alternate costumes I think will be cool for Wario and Mario. Not much else to say on that.

*Dr. Doom* · 08-14-2007, 01:25 AM

I'm praying they include Wolf Link, and I'm also praying that Falco remains in the game, he's my best/favorite character in melee. I know I can just play as Fox, but I like Falco better. Something else we have to consider is that they're probably not gonna announce unlockable characters on the site, at least I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't. So some of these people we're holding our breath for we might not know about until the game is final and being reviewed, or from like a strategy guide/FAQ.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 01:33 AM

Well, every character was announced when Melee came out, the unlockables just weren't talked about in detail. Still, I'm with you. I'd rather there be some surprises in store once we finally get the game in our hands.

Edit: After such an awesome update, I was expecting an assist trophy, but whatever the hell we got...I don't even know. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items.../assist05.html

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-14-2007, 03:53 AM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_World

Its the funky dancing devil from Miyamoto's old Pac-Man ripoff Devil World we never saw released over here. He moved the maze back and forth and you had to eat the "pellets" while staying within the boarder as he moved it around. Now he does the same thing to the Smash Bros. play field. That seems to just fit well with Smash's play mechanics.

Seriously, they have little reason not to release that game in the US with something like Devil's Crush (TG-16) already on the VC.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 04:21 AM

I just want some more AC stuff to be announced! Smashville and a Pitfall aren't enough!

*Mecha Cow* · 08-14-2007, 07:19 AM

The Devil?! Won't somebody please think of the children?!

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-14-2007, 08:25 PM

Fu*k the kiddies. Panty shots for the win.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 08:27 PM

Who wants to take bets on if "Devil" will be called Demon, and have a palette swap in the NA version?

*Mecha Cow* · 08-14-2007, 08:36 PM

Actually, he's called 'Devil' on the US website, but if you check the European sites he's called 'Demon'. Interesting.

See, we are not Satanists.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 08:38 PM

Probably because the game was never released here, but it got a release in Europe as Demon World. Since they have nothing to base off of for the US site, they went with the Japanese name. Once Brawl comes over to the NA, I'd say there's a good chance he'll be called Demon as well.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-14-2007, 08:41 PM

Yeah, I'll tag that bet. If you action replay the trophy in Melee, it calls the game "Demon World".

Krueger · 08-14-2007, 08:47 PM

I will cry if they do not bring back Falcon.

*Dr. Doom* · 08-14-2007, 09:07 PM

There's no way they wouldn't.

*Deathknight* · 08-14-2007, 09:11 PM

There's already an F-zero assist trophy so it's pretty much confirmed that Falcon is coming back.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 09:15 PM

Of the older veteran SSB characters, I'd say the only ones that can be worried about are Ness and Jigglypuff.

08-13-2007, 06:13 PM	#64
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I really wouldn't count on a transformation move for Link, it would be way too radical of an overhaul for such a major character. Also consider that he's a series' representative, so he can't be too game-specific. It would be like giving Mario FLUDD moves. Like I've said before though, Wolf Link might be a seperate character. I do hope this game will have alternate costumes. Three might be a bit of a stretch, but perhaps one extra plus a palette swap for both costumes. I mean, Wario needs his classic costume, doesn't he? Mario/Dr. Mario Link/Magic Armor Link Wario/Classic Wario Samus/Fusion Suit Samus Etc., etc. __________________

08-13-2007, 06:44 PM	#65
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Yeah, Wario is probably the giveaway example for why we're likely to get alternate costumes (though I personally prefer Intelligent System's fat farty Wario to their older "angry troll" Wario). If you look at the models in detail, you can tell the costumes are modeled separately from the characters. I think its pretty well written in stone. I just want one thing for Mario....white overalls. I dearly miss the old Fire Mario disco pants circa 1986. And I've been dreaming of a raccoon tail Super Leaf power-up since the game's announcement. __________________

08-13-2007, 10:57 PM	#66
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Wow, you guys have put a lot of thought into these responses. For Diddy and Dixie, I think something along Peanut's idea would be cool. Like, instead of tagging out ala Pokemon Trainer or having an exact replica follow you around ala Ice Climbers they could fight as a team, you know? Like, for one standard attack Diddy will use his tail and for another Dixie will use her hair and as a special attack one throws the other a short distance. They're up B will be Dixie's hair glider and so on and so forth. I think that'd be cool. I agree with Mecha as far as Link. Adding his wolf form would've been good for a final smash, but we all know it's not that. I could see Midna as maybe a support trophy, but I don't really know. Although I also agree his lame projectile attacks need to be changed. The only one I really use is the arrow. Fully charged it does up to 20% damage I think. The alternate costumes I think will be cool for Wario and Mario. Not much else to say on that. __________________

08-14-2007, 01:25 AM	#67
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I'm praying they include Wolf Link, and I'm also praying that Falco remains in the game, he's my best/favorite character in melee. I know I can just play as Fox, but I like Falco better. Something else we have to consider is that they're probably not gonna announce unlockable characters on the site, at least I wouldn't be suprised if they didn't. So some of these people we're holding our breath for we might not know about until the game is final and being reviewed, or from like a strategy guide/FAQ. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

08-14-2007, 03:53 AM	#69
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_World Its the funky dancing devil from Miyamoto's old Pac-Man ripoff Devil World we never saw released over here. He moved the maze back and forth and you had to eat the "pellets" while staying within the boarder as he moved it around. Now he does the same thing to the Smash Bros. play field. That seems to just fit well with Smash's play mechanics. Seriously, they have little reason not to release that game in the US with something like Devil's Crush (TG-16) already on the VC. __________________

08-13-2007, 05:45 PM	#61
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Luigi wasn't a total clone in Melee, he had a couple of his own specific moves. What I hope they do is give him the Poltergust. That would be awesome. And I totally agree with Diddy and Dixie. Even if they were a tag-team along the same line as the Ice Climbers. The DK franchise just doesn't have enough respresentation. As far as Young Link goes, it seems more and more like Midna/Wolf Link will take his place, rather than tWW Link, who I'd prefer.

08-14-2007, 01:33 AM	#68
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Well, every character was announced when Melee came out, the unlockables just weren't talked about in detail. Still, I'm with you. I'd rather there be some surprises in store once we finally get the game in our hands. Edit: After such an awesome update, I was expecting an assist trophy, but whatever the hell we got...I don't even know. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/items.../assist05.html

08-14-2007, 04:21 AM	#70
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I just want some more AC stuff to be announced! Smashville and a Pitfall aren't enough!

08-14-2007, 07:19 AM	#71
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	The Devil?! Won't somebody please think of the children?! __________________

08-14-2007, 08:25 PM	#72
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Fu*k the kiddies. Panty shots for the win. __________________

08-14-2007, 08:27 PM	#73
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Who wants to take bets on if "Devil" will be called Demon, and have a palette swap in the NA version?

08-14-2007, 08:36 PM	#74
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Actually, he's called 'Devil' on the US website, but if you check the European sites he's called 'Demon'. Interesting. See, we are not Satanists. __________________

08-14-2007, 08:38 PM	#75
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Probably because the game was never released here, but it got a release in Europe as Demon World. Since they have nothing to base off of for the US site, they went with the Japanese name. Once Brawl comes over to the NA, I'd say there's a good chance he'll be called Demon as well.

08-14-2007, 08:41 PM	#76
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Yeah, I'll tag that bet. If you action replay the trophy in Melee, it calls the game "Demon World". __________________

08-14-2007, 08:47 PM	#77
Krueger Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New York Posts: 481	I will cry if they do not bring back Falcon. __________________ "Why are ya screaming? I haven't even cut you yet."

08-14-2007, 09:07 PM	#78
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	There's no way they wouldn't. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

08-14-2007, 09:11 PM	#79
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	There's already an F-zero assist trophy so it's pretty much confirmed that Falcon is coming back. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

08-14-2007, 09:15 PM	#80
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Of the older veteran SSB characters, I'd say the only ones that can be worried about are Ness and Jigglypuff.