Dreamwave TMNT art!!! - Page 4

beaker · 03-11-2003, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by anarchistguy

What are you people talking about? Those designs look FANTASTIC!!

word. I still cant believe how evolved and interesting just the concept designs alone are...judging from his past work, as well as other Dreamwave titles, I have a feeling art and story wise this will be nothing short of astonishing. Just wait, when this finally comes out(anyone have a release date?) put this and the newer Mirage series side by side...

Second, for those that dont like the breathtaking new Transformers comics, check out the less than stellar recently released TPB' of the 80's TF comic...
if they had had that 'Amerimanga color' styled TF back then I woul dhave fainted.

Thirdly, a great story cant make up for bad art. The newer TMNT Mirage series for example...the story is pretty cool, but its mired in what I would say is the worst TMNT illsutrations since early Archie TMNT. A shame, as I have a lot of older Lawson TMNT work which seems much better...what happened?

**GK Punk** · 03-11-2003, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beaker

"Third", a great story cant make up for bad art. The newer TMNT Mirage series for example...the story is pretty cool, but its mired in what I would say is the worst TMNT illsutrations since early Archie TMNT. A shame, as I have a lot of older Lawson TMNT work which seems much better...what happened?

True dat, homey... er I mean I agree with you, my friend.
One of my favorite Comics was DC's Supergirl, during the Peter David written story arc (the one of the Satanic Cult) And I followed it for years... Untill they got a bad artist... So In otherwords, I feel it goes both ways... You NEED both for a comic to be good!

Another Example is TopCow's Battle of The Planets... the art is perfect for the series, but the writing is terrible!! And that imo is "horrific"

Shellfox · 03-11-2003, 01:08 PM

Mike- I like the side pics, the one in the middle SCARES ME, he looks like hes on crack
Leo- very cool, diffrent but cool
Raph- As much as I hate to say it, this really looks like him

While I may like most of these pis, I can't say if I am going to enjoy an entire book if this is how they will look, maybe its to early for me to tell, and maybe I'll get use to them, time will tell, but the boats still out for me if these new designs are a good idea

**Karpo_007** · 03-11-2003, 01:17 PM

Beaker has a point, I too wonder what happened to Lawssons style. Hi TMNT are still great, but backrounds and especially human charcaters need some serious work.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 03-11-2003, 02:30 PM

Yeah, the TMNT are perfect, but humans look kinda strange.

CookSux · 03-11-2003, 02:34 PM

I think if they made the TMNT look more like ninja warriors instead of hulking body builders, then it might make a little more sense. I'm not saying that the art is disgusting, it's great. Just doesn't feel like the TMNT to me. And yeah, the current TMNT b/w book sucks. I guess I just have a lot to complain about.

*Eye of Sarnath* · 03-11-2003, 02:40 PM

I fail to see how anyone could like the examples we have been presented with. Raph was okay. But he could be a LOT better.

*Anarchistguy* · 03-11-2003, 02:58 PM

OH COME ON!! don't you think you're exagerating just a bit?! he doesn't look THAT bad.

**Karpo_007** · 03-11-2003, 04:01 PM

Well he doesn't look like a ninja turtle as we know either...

Psycrow · 03-11-2003, 04:24 PM

Actually, I like the Raph picture very much. I would die to draw like that... Well, die after I could put that drawing skill to good use, haha.

ninjapizza · 03-11-2003, 06:59 PM

I'll still buy it.

Greed · 03-11-2003, 07:02 PM

And really thats all that matters

ninjapizza · 03-11-2003, 07:07 PM

Indeed. I think I'll pass judgement once I see the final result. (the art looks ok so far...)

Aztec General · 03-11-2003, 07:52 PM

Wait a minute, stop the presses!!!!!!!!!!!!

These drawings are NOT be Pat Lee, I repeat NOT by Pat Lee. They are drawn by artist Lesean Thomas hence the "LeS" on the signature. Check the third link on Beaker's original post. According to him he's doing the artwork for Dreamwave's TMNT. If you check his profile it's listed there as his current project.

It also states that there is an upcoming Dreamwave TMNT miniseries!!!!!

Maybe Pat Lee is only doing inking, coloring, or covers?

tekcop · 03-11-2003, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Rat King

Wait a minute, stop the presses!!!!!!!!!!!!

These drawings are NOT be Pat Lee, I repeat NOT by Pat Lee. They are drawn by artist Lesean Thomas hence the "LeS" on the signature. Check the third link on Beaker's original post. According to him he's doing the artwork for Dreamwave's TMNT. If you check his profile it's listed there as his current project.

It also states that there is an upcoming Dreamwave TMNT miniseries!!!!!

Maybe Pat Lee is only doing inking, coloring, or covers?

Um... I thought everybody knew that Thomas dude was the artist?

TMNT is cooler than MOTU · 03-11-2003, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by beaker

Look what I scored, from browsing the Penny Arcade forums:

http://www.silver3.com/Testing%sh**/...Large/mike.jpg

http://lesean.defuser.net/art/BHMstudies.jpg

http://lesean.defuser.net/

HFS!!! And I thought the new TMNT cartoon designs rocked...these designs IMHO blow everything Ive seen away(and that includes the 80's Mirage stuff) I hat eto use this expression, but these new TMNT designs look sick as all get out.

I'm sorry, but I have a problme thinking these are legit. The artist is Pat Lee, correct? That really doesn't look like his tyle or signature.

Caliosidhe · 03-12-2003, 01:06 AM

Uh.. I think everyone reading the whole thread realizes that it's LeSean's art. I mean, the links are directly off of his homepage and all...

LOL I think some people are missing reading the whole thread

I think I've decided no to worry too much over tehse sketches.. They seem like very early conceptual design (I hope) I don't think this guy is the only one working on the book (Again I hope) Which means he could be a long way away from a final design.

Heck, Eastman and Laird's first designs ended up changing a whole lot before the first book was turned out..

**Karpo_007** · 03-12-2003, 05:32 AM

True, thats why we need to see some real art. So Pat Lee is not involved... How good is this Lesean guy?

tekcop · 03-12-2003, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TMNT is cooler than MOTU

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Originally Posted by beaker

Look what I scored, from browsing the Penny Arcade forums:

http://www.silver3.com/Testing%sh**/...Large/mike.jpg

http://lesean.defuser.net/art/BHMstudies.jpg

http://lesean.defuser.net/

HFS!!! And I thought the new TMNT cartoon designs rocked...these designs IMHO blow everything Ive seen away(and that includes the 80's Mirage stuff) I hat eto use this expression, but these new TMNT designs look sick as all get out.

I'm sorry, but I have a problme thinking these are legit. The artist is Pat Lee, correct? That really doesn't look like his tyle or signature.

Um... as Rat King just said, that's because the artist is Sean LeThomas, not Pat Lee.

CookSux · 03-12-2003, 10:30 AM

Now, whoever thought that these sketches were done by Pat Lee must be blind. Even the signature says Les. Then again everyone assumes that just because Dreamwave is doing something that Pat Lee has his fingers on it... and that's partially true. I bet Pat Lee's going to want to do some covers, and a couple books. That cocky punk! Haha.

03-11-2003, 02:30 PM	#65
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	Yeah, the TMNT are perfect, but humans look kinda strange. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

03-11-2003, 02:40 PM	#67
Eye of Sarnath Mad Scientist Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NY Posts: 1,590	I fail to see how anyone could like the examples we have been presented with. Raph was okay. But he could be a LOT better. __________________ "When I was real small I heard about this thing called the decline of civilization... and I decided that it was something I would like to become involved in." -George Carlin

03-11-2003, 02:58 PM	#68
Anarchistguy Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Canada (This country is too peaceful, Something's up...) Posts: 2,137	OH COME ON!! don't you think you're exagerating just a bit?! he doesn't look THAT bad. __________________ M.D.K. Maim! Destroy! Kill!!! "When my time comes, I wanna be buried face down, so those who don't like me can kiss my ass!"

03-11-2003, 04:24 PM	#70
Psycrow Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 435	Actually, I like the Raph picture very much. I would die to draw like that... Well, die after I could put that drawing skill to good use, haha. __________________ "Before you criticize others you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way when you criticize them, you're a mile away... and you have their shoes."

03-11-2003, 07:02 PM	#72
Greed Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Chicago, ILL Posts: 931	And really thats all that matters __________________ Why? Because they're blacker than the blackest black times infinity. (Formerly known as Slash89, go ahead think back you know me.)

03-11-2003, 01:08 PM	#63
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	Mike- I like the side pics, the one in the middle SCARES ME, he looks like hes on crack Leo- very cool, diffrent but cool Raph- As much as I hate to say it, this really looks like him While I may like most of these pis, I can't say if I am going to enjoy an entire book if this is how they will look, maybe its to early for me to tell, and maybe I'll get use to them, time will tell, but the boats still out for me if these new designs are a good idea

03-11-2003, 01:17 PM	#64
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Beaker has a point, I too wonder what happened to Lawssons style. Hi TMNT are still great, but backrounds and especially human charcaters need some serious work.

03-11-2003, 02:34 PM	#66
CookSux Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sparta Posts: 928	I think if they made the TMNT look more like ninja warriors instead of hulking body builders, then it might make a little more sense. I'm not saying that the art is disgusting, it's great. Just doesn't feel like the TMNT to me. And yeah, the current TMNT b/w book sucks. I guess I just have a lot to complain about.

03-11-2003, 04:01 PM	#69
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Well he doesn't look like a ninja turtle as we know either...

03-11-2003, 06:59 PM	#71
ninjapizza Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 101	I'll still buy it.

03-11-2003, 07:07 PM	#73
ninjapizza Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 101	Indeed. I think I'll pass judgement once I see the final result. (the art looks ok so far...)

03-11-2003, 07:52 PM	#74
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Wait a minute, stop the presses!!!!!!!!!!!! These drawings are NOT be Pat Lee, I repeat NOT by Pat Lee. They are drawn by artist Lesean Thomas hence the "LeS" on the signature. Check the third link on Beaker's original post. According to him he's doing the artwork for Dreamwave's TMNT. If you check his profile it's listed there as his current project. It also states that there is an upcoming Dreamwave TMNT miniseries!!!!! Maybe Pat Lee is only doing inking, coloring, or covers? __________________

03-12-2003, 01:06 AM	#77
Caliosidhe Thug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 95	Uh.. I think everyone reading the whole thread realizes that it's LeSean's art. I mean, the links are directly off of his homepage and all... LOL I think some people are missing reading the whole thread I think I've decided no to worry too much over tehse sketches.. They seem like very early conceptual design (I hope) I don't think this guy is the only one working on the book (Again I hope) Which means he could be a long way away from a final design. Heck, Eastman and Laird's first designs ended up changing a whole lot before the first book was turned out..

03-12-2003, 05:32 AM	#78
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	True, thats why we need to see some real art. So Pat Lee is not involved... How good is this Lesean guy?

03-12-2003, 10:30 AM	#80
CookSux Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Sparta Posts: 928	Now, whoever thought that these sketches were done by Pat Lee must be blind. Even the signature says Les. Then again everyone assumes that just because Dreamwave is doing something that Pat Lee has his fingers on it... and that's partially true. I bet Pat Lee's going to want to do some covers, and a couple books. That cocky punk! Haha.