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Old 06-16-2012, 12:32 AM   #61
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Will this news effect the new cartoon show coming out??
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:33 AM   #62
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Will this news effect the new cartoon show coming out??
No, the two are not connected at all.
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Old 06-16-2012, 12:47 AM   #63
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No, the two are not connected at all.
Thanks good to know. I only started looking into the new show yesterday, and from what I know so far its seems like its going to be a good series.

I really started to like the animation style. At first I thought it was too childish, then shortly after it started to grow on me the more I learned about the show.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:11 AM   #64
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A lot of what Andrew said is ringing true. I also almost promise that it has a lot to do with toys. They want to make sure that there's a large gap between the cartoon toys coming out, and the movie toys coming out, so everything sells as much as possible. Plus the project apparently just isn't going very well.

I wouldn't bet on that new release date being set in stone, either, I wouldn't be shocked to see it get pushed back even further. If that one doesn't, one of the other "big" movies opening will open later around 4th of July. TMNT will never even try that, because the franchise as it stands likely wouldn't draw big against whatever CGI explosion movies come out in any given summer.

I predict it opens sometime around late-May or early-June 2014, if it comes out in 2014 at all. I can see it getting pushed back a whole year. Critics will call it juvenile and write reviews where they mix up references to the old cartoons and the first movie. Fans will have mixed feelings. Andrew will hate it. I didn't need my "Eye Of Kreskin" for that one.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:23 AM   #65
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Andrew will hate it.
Hey, no surprises there but that's been a foregone conclusion for a while now. Believe it or not, even before Kevin Eastman posted on his Facebook: "Hey Turtle fans, what's your favorite Fred Wolf cartoon episode so we can try and work that into the new movie?"
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:25 AM   #66
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Hey, no surprises there but that's been a foregone conclusion for a while now. Believe it or not, even before Kevin Eastman posted on his Facebook: "Hey Turtle fans, what's your favorite Fred Wolf cartoon episode so we can try and work that into the new movie?"
That wasn't a literal question he was asking.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:33 AM   #67
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That wasn't a literal question he was asking.
I know. But not exactly reassuring either...
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:39 AM   #68
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My take is, Paramount wants this movie to make it's money (of course, no duh, right?)

But what I mean is, they have 2 movies that are going through total Nightmares of production, called GI Joe 2 and World War Z.

*GI Joe 2 - A film that was supposed to be released in June, and then only a few weeks from release they decide to push the film about 9 months back, add more 'Channing Tatum' because he died in the opening of the flick and he's 'now more popular' thanks to flicks like The Vow & 21 Jump Street, as well as 3D conversion...so not only do you have the mucho dinero put into the production, you ALSO have all that $ spent on advertising (like the Super Bowl ads, and such...weirdly enough I have friends who STILL sees ads that the flick's coming out in June) as well as reshooting AND the 3D conversion...definitely a film that is in serious trouble financially (and they're Begging for big Box Office overseas).

*World War Z -The budget is up to $170 million. Though the principal shoot is long done, Paramount just tapped “Prometheus” screenwriter Damon Lindelof to rewrite the last act of the movie, which will require reshoots.

About 7 Weeks of reshoots...

And I think Paramount will be dealing with these Runaway Projects...along for fear of them (or Ninja Turtles) becoming just like how Universal is hurting from the Mega-flop "Battleship", as well as Disney's Mega-flop "John Carter", even Warner Bros. "Dark Shadows" didn't do that well, and that was a $150 million production.

And plus, the Ninja Turtles movie was going to come out on Christmas...now, Christmas?? Who goes to the movies on Christmas Day? And a week or two before that film you had the Hunger Games Sequel AND a Hobbit movie...as much as I love Ninja Turtles, it would've been crushed by those 2 giants.
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Old 06-16-2012, 01:43 AM   #69
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Paramount just tapped “Prometheus” screenwriter Damon Lindelof to rewrite the last act of the movie, which will require reshoots.
Huge mistake, by the way. *hack* *hack* *cough* *cough* Prometheus is virtually a case study in how everything about a movie can be picture perfect... except for the script.
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Huge mistake, by the way. *hack* *hack* *cough* *cough* Prometheus is virtually a case study in how everything about a movie can be picture perfect... except for the script.
Heh...you mean like the part where the 2 guys get lost, one gets high in his suit, and the other calls a snake creature 'beautiful' and 'a cutie', and then looks like he wants to French kiss it after it hissed at him?
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Heh...you mean like the part where the 2 guys get lost, one gets high in his suit, and the other calls a snake creature 'beautiful' and 'a cutie', and then looks like he wants to French kiss it after it hissed at him?
The same two biologists who ran away and wanted to go back to the ship at the first sign of actual alien dead bodies to examine like two scenes before that? Yeah. Like that part.
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I have the sneaking suspiscion that this might go straight back into development hell.
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Old 06-16-2012, 02:04 AM   #73
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Huge mistake, by the way. *hack* *hack* *cough* *cough* Prometheus is virtually a case study in how everything about a movie can be picture perfect... except for the script.
Now, don't be like that. He also co-wrote Cowboys & Aliens, which really is a.... Wait, he co-wrote ****ing Cowboys & Aliens? ****.

He should never write anything without Carlton Cuse. And yes, I liked Lost up until the very end
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I know. But not exactly reassuring either...
I'd be sold, then again I'm not a biased, boring elitist MIRAGE loyalist who can only enjoy ever one version of the TMNT. Sucks to be you doesnt it?

"Oh boo hoo, TMNT 2007 was toothless, this movie will be a hack job, all because it's not having the Turtles be the kind of Turtles I want (throws toys out of the pram), I want them to be ruthless and vengeful, I want them stabbing and gutting people, I want dark and gritty, I want..."

...Just go away Andrew, it's never happening and you know it. The Turtles are seen as kids icons and their far more interesting and wholesome morality is centerfold to just about every version period. The MIRAGE and overrated IDW books are irrelevant in the long run, you will never get your way, so stop infesting every thread on this movie with your useless doom-report DRIVEL. Accept there's more than one version of TMNT, and either like it or...you know, DON'T BLOODY WATCH IT. Some of us on the other hand will keep discussing and looking forward to it because unlike you, we CAN accept other versions.

And TMNT wasnt a bad film at all.

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Old 06-16-2012, 09:40 AM   #75
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Will this news effect the new cartoon show coming out??
If anything it's a good thing the movie will come out when the show is in its second season. The show will already have an established fanbase of little kids who will beg their parents to take them to the new movie, much like what happened in 1990 with the first movie.

Anyway between the movie, comics and cartoon, the movie always sounded like the worst of the 3 so hopefully this turns out for the best.
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Old 06-16-2012, 10:50 AM   #76
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Whatever happens, it's safe to say we have the 1990 film. The update about the new movie being postponed has made me lost hope for a new film at all. It may take a few years before the turtles debut on the big screen. Let's just hope we get something some time.
Don't lose hope man, it's just postponed for improving and i'm sure we'll get something sooner of later!

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A rush job? Turtles Part 5 has officially been in pre-production since about 2009. And look how well Turtles Part 4's 13 year pre-production went... come 2007, we got a stillborn, toothless fart with a bunch of monsters and nonsense. I would put absolutely no faith in "more time" resulting in a better product... it just gives the financiers more time to figure out how to better align the toy placement and merchandising angles. This movie is in no way, shape, or form the labor of love by someone wanting to bring their vision of their definitive Turtles movie to light... it's just a studio who has acquired the rights to TMNT hiring guns and figuring out the best ways and best angles to maximize revenue on their investment. There will be focus groups, multiple "writing teams," and all sorts of nonsense that goes into productions like these.

Sorry if I sound cynical, but it's true.
TMNT 2007 was a great movie, better than most of the animated movies out there. Yea sure it's not the best movie for the turtles. BUT It was good.

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I have the sneaking suspiscion that this might go straight back into development hell.
Could possibly, The turtles are known for that. What would have been the next mutation movie, and wasn't there another they were gonna make?

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I'd be sold, then again I'm not a biased, boring elitist MIRAGE loyalist who can only enjoy ever one version of the TMNT. Sucks to be you doesnt it?

"Oh boo hoo, TMNT 2007 was toothless, this movie will be a hack job, all because it's not having the Turtles be the kind of Turtles I want (throws toys out of the pram), I want them to be ruthless and vengeful, I want them stabbing and gutting people, I want dark and gritty, I want..."

...Just go away Andrew, it's never happening and you know it. The Turtles are seen as kids icons and their far more interesting and wholesome morality is centerfold to just about every version period. The MIRAGE and overrated IDW books are irrelevant in the long run, you will never get your way, so stop infesting every thread on this movie with your useless doom-report DRIVEL. Accept there's more than one version of TMNT, and either like it or...you know, DON'T BLOODY WATCH IT. Some of us on the other hand will keep discussing and looking forward to it because unlike you, we CAN accept other versions.

And TMNT wasnt a bad film at all.
AMEN! Andrew is like the grouch, he's just grouchy. It's better to ignore characters like that. Then on the other hand, it's better to ignore all the characters on Sesimy (or how ever you spell it ) street.

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If anything it's a good thing the movie will come out when the show is in its second season. The show will already have an established fanbase of little kids who will beg their parents to take them to the new movie, much like what happened in 1990 with the first movie.

Anyway between the movie, comics and cartoon, the movie always sounded like the worst of the 3 so hopefully this turns out for the best.
I think the movie will be the worst (I didn't say it would be bad though) The IDW comics will be the best. And the shows will be in the middle.
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I'd be sold, then again I'm not a biased, boring elitist MIRAGE loyalist who can only enjoy ever one version of the TMNT. Sucks to be you doesnt it?

"Oh boo hoo, TMNT 2007 was toothless, this movie will be a hack job, all because it's not having the Turtles be the kind of Turtles I want (throws toys out of the pram), I want them to be ruthless and vengeful, I want them stabbing and gutting people, I want dark and gritty, I want..."

...Just go away Andrew, it's never happening and you know it. The Turtles are seen as kids icons and their far more interesting and wholesome morality is centerfold to just about every version period. The MIRAGE and overrated IDW books are irrelevant in the long run, you will never get your way, so stop infesting every thread on this movie with your useless doom-report DRIVEL. Accept there's more than one version of TMNT, and either like it or...you know, DON'T BLOODY WATCH IT. Some of us on the other hand will keep discussing and looking forward to it because unlike you, we CAN accept other versions.

And TMNT wasnt a bad film at all.
I hear what your saying, but he like what he likes. Im open minded to watch what they do with this movie, (if it happens now). As long as they do the franchise justice I will be happy.
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Old 06-16-2012, 11:12 AM   #78
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Don't lose hope man, it's just postponed for improving and i'm sure we'll get something sooner of later!

I'm not going to lose that much hope. It's just I have a feeling that this movie will take long to make. Therefore, we can't expect it to be closer.

TMNT 2007 was a great movie, better than most of the animated movies out there. Yea sure it's not the best movie for the turtles. BUT It was good.

Right on, dude!

AMEN! Andrew is like the grouch, he's just grouchy. It's better to ignore characters like that. Then on the other hand, it's better to ignore all the characters on Sesimy (or how ever you spell it ) street.

"Sesame" Street. That's how you spell it. Plus, Sesame Street is still not bad for kids, but the Muppets have stronger characters.

I think the movie will be the worst (I didn't say it would be bad though) The IDW comics will be the best. And the shows will be in the middle.

I think it's a matter of opinion. To me, the comics fall in the middle. I don't like them that much and find the change of origin unnecessary. Plus, I find Don unlikeable in that one so far. The show, I believe, will be at the top. With all the hype, advertising, merchandising, and previews it's getting, it seems Nickelodeon's CGI show is the one to be the best. Come on. A Leonardo that's into this Star Trek show is better than the boring one we have in IDW at this moment. Yet, I must agree. The movie may be the worst. We'll just have to see what happens.
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TMNT 2007 was a great movie, better than most of the animated movies out there. Yea sure it's not the best movie for the turtles. BUT It was good.
I want to know what animated movies it's better than. 'Most' is a pretty broad statement and I bet it's completely wrong.

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it's better to ignore all the characters on Sesimy (or how ever you spell it ) street.
Maybe if you watched more Sesame Street you'd know how to spell.
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I want to know what animated movies it's better than. 'Most' is a pretty broad statement and I bet it's completely wrong.



Maybe if you watched more Sesame Street you'd know how to spell.
I'm talking about stuff like walle, how to train you dragon, and stuff like that. I would say kung fu panda too, but that one might be a bit better than tmnt

realy i guess it depends on what you like



And as for Sesame Street....... it would be tourtue, but... that's not a bad idea
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