TMNT II - thoughts on it? - Page 4

~~Leo656~~ · 08-27-2003, 03:39 PM

I remember being like 11 when Batman: TAS came out and I was totally thrown by how dark it was and how much implied violence there was when it first started. I kinda stopped keeping up on it for a while after the third season or so, but the first few episodes were total "Holy Sh*t" stuff when I was a kid. Considering the last animated version of Batman before that was the one in Super-Friends, that's not hard to believe.

**Karpo_007** · 08-27-2003, 03:44 PM

Yes, the show was pretty exceptional when it came out. They really showed to everyone how cartoons are done.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-27-2003, 03:49 PM

I think that version of Batman is really close to the perfect vision of what Batman is like. That show and the first movie.

Speaking of, did you ever notice there were little things about the show and the movie that kind of crossed over? Like in one episode, a doctor at Arkham Asylum was naming several Bat-villains who were incarcerated at Arkham, and the Joker was referred to as "Jack Napier". I thought that was kinda neat.

**Karpo_007** · 08-27-2003, 03:52 PM

Yeah, but that's no wonder since the success of the movie spawned the series. In some levels I think it's even better than the movies[Speaking of the first two natrually]. I still think that Mask of Phantasm is the best Batman movie ever made.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 08-27-2003, 11:45 PM

Agreed!

And, the new TMNT is a mixed bag.
All the Shredder Eps. are all pretty dramatic.
Nano was actually quite disturbing.

But, most of the time the Turtles themselves are acting silly, and everything else is dead serious.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 04:47 AM

Yeah, in the New Show the TMNT really act like Teenagers.

RskimB · 08-28-2003, 06:16 AM

my mistake i forgot the tang shen scene and leo getting shredder's arm.

can't believe i missed that after just seeing the movie

~~Leo656~~ · 08-28-2003, 11:10 AM

I still remember being in the theater when the movie came out, and was all like 'Holy sh*t, he cut him!" when Leo sliced Shredder's arm. I was totally not expecting that.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 11:16 AM

I was still a kid [7 I think] When I first saw the movie and I tought it was awesome the fights were, especially the one with Shredder. Since I was used to the cartoon I wasn't excpecting anything like that.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-28-2003, 11:23 AM

Yeah the stuff that stood out for me the first time was 1) wondering where Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady were, 2) wondering why Splinter and Shredder's origins were different from the cartoon, and 3) being surprised that there was so much language in a movie based on a kids' cartoon.

Suffice to say my TMNT knowledge was extremely limited at the time. Outside of the cartoon and the Archie comic I knew nothing.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 11:27 AM

Same with me. I didn't know anything about Mirage at that time.Well before I watched the movie I had heard that there was no Krang, Bebop or Rocksteady so I wasn't really disapointed.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-28-2003, 11:32 AM

I remember hearing that there was another, black n white TMNT comic back then that supposedly preceded the cartoon, but no shops around here carried anything except issue 1, first print. So I was Mirage-less until I won an issue playing one of those wheel games at the Boardwalk (actually, after about 7 bucks of losses the guy running the game took pity on me and just let me have it, heheh). The issue was right in the middle of the "City at War" arc, so I had NO idea what was going on, but I was glad to have it anyway. Then two years ago I found my current comic shop and bought every Mirage, Image and Archie TMNT comic they had. I'm a little behind on reading though. I still prefer the Archie comic since I'm more familiar with it, but I like the storytelling in the Mirage books.

And Image I just thought sucked.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 11:39 AM

It was few years after the movie I read ab article about the TMNT. Thats where I first learned about Mirage comics, but since it was never released in Finland I had no means of getting any issues.

It was about year and a half ago I returned to the TMNT fandom, registered here, Downloaded the whole old cartoon and bought every issue of Mirage. I like achie too, I own almost every issue release, altough they are all in Finnish.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-28-2003, 11:41 AM

What I loved about Archie was that while it started out as a direct adaptation of the cartoon, it went its own way and really "grew up". I was mad when it got cancelled, especially since it was so abrupt. That series definitely deserved a better ending.

So did the Image series, but... I prefer to pretend the whole thing never happened.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 11:47 AM

As a kid I always prefered archie over the cartoon, it had very good stories most of the time. Haven't read thos books in years tough... Im sure they are still around somewhere.

From the few issues of Image I have seen, I can say that I don't like it. Mainly because of all the mutilations. Im glad it doesn't belong to the Mirage continuity anymore.

~~Leo656~~ · 08-28-2003, 11:49 AM

Yeah, I think the long-running joke amongst TMNT fans is that it's good for Mikey that the Image series ended when it did, otherwise he woulda probably been castrated.

*jeff the cheff* · 08-28-2003, 11:53 AM

the new cartoon is kind of a childrens show. It is not made for adults or anything. I love the new show just as much as the next guy but it is just like the second movie... which wasnt as bad as everyone says it is.

**Karpo_007** · 08-28-2003, 11:53 AM

Yeah...

Quiller-Bee · 08-28-2003, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffthecheff

the new cartoon is kind of a childrens show. It is not made for adults or anything. I love the new show just as much as the next guy but it is just like the second movie... which wasnt as bad as everyone says it is.

Okay . . . if “The Cheff” insists . . . .

Nah, forget it. You're just wrong, man.

*jeff the cheff* · 08-28-2003, 05:18 PM

No...its a cartoon.

08-27-2003, 11:45 PM	#65
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Agreed! And, the new TMNT is a mixed bag. All the Shredder Eps. are all pretty dramatic. Nano was actually quite disturbing. But, most of the time the Turtles themselves are acting silly, and everything else is dead serious. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

08-28-2003, 06:16 AM	#67
RskimB Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: west coast Posts: 302	my mistake i forgot the tang shen scene and leo getting shredder's arm. can't believe i missed that after just seeing the movie __________________ leswrite.com

08-27-2003, 03:39 PM	#61
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I remember being like 11 when Batman: TAS came out and I was totally thrown by how dark it was and how much implied violence there was when it first started. I kinda stopped keeping up on it for a while after the third season or so, but the first few episodes were total "Holy Sh*t" stuff when I was a kid. Considering the last animated version of Batman before that was the one in Super-Friends, that's not hard to believe.

08-27-2003, 03:44 PM	#62
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yes, the show was pretty exceptional when it came out. They really showed to everyone how cartoons are done.

08-27-2003, 03:49 PM	#63
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I think that version of Batman is really close to the perfect vision of what Batman is like. That show and the first movie. Speaking of, did you ever notice there were little things about the show and the movie that kind of crossed over? Like in one episode, a doctor at Arkham Asylum was naming several Bat-villains who were incarcerated at Arkham, and the Joker was referred to as "Jack Napier". I thought that was kinda neat.

08-27-2003, 03:52 PM	#64
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah, but that's no wonder since the success of the movie spawned the series. In some levels I think it's even better than the movies[Speaking of the first two natrually]. I still think that Mask of Phantasm is the best Batman movie ever made.

08-28-2003, 04:47 AM	#66
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Yeah, in the New Show the TMNT really act like Teenagers.

08-28-2003, 11:10 AM	#68
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I still remember being in the theater when the movie came out, and was all like 'Holy sh*t, he cut him!" when Leo sliced Shredder's arm. I was totally not expecting that.

08-28-2003, 11:16 AM	#69
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	I was still a kid [7 I think] When I first saw the movie and I tought it was awesome the fights were, especially the one with Shredder. Since I was used to the cartoon I wasn't excpecting anything like that.

08-28-2003, 11:23 AM	#70
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah the stuff that stood out for me the first time was 1) wondering where Krang, Bebop and Rocksteady were, 2) wondering why Splinter and Shredder's origins were different from the cartoon, and 3) being surprised that there was so much language in a movie based on a kids' cartoon. Suffice to say my TMNT knowledge was extremely limited at the time. Outside of the cartoon and the Archie comic I knew nothing.

08-28-2003, 11:27 AM	#71
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	Same with me. I didn't know anything about Mirage at that time.Well before I watched the movie I had heard that there was no Krang, Bebop or Rocksteady so I wasn't really disapointed.

08-28-2003, 11:32 AM	#72
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I remember hearing that there was another, black n white TMNT comic back then that supposedly preceded the cartoon, but no shops around here carried anything except issue 1, first print. So I was Mirage-less until I won an issue playing one of those wheel games at the Boardwalk (actually, after about 7 bucks of losses the guy running the game took pity on me and just let me have it, heheh). The issue was right in the middle of the "City at War" arc, so I had NO idea what was going on, but I was glad to have it anyway. Then two years ago I found my current comic shop and bought every Mirage, Image and Archie TMNT comic they had. I'm a little behind on reading though. I still prefer the Archie comic since I'm more familiar with it, but I like the storytelling in the Mirage books. And Image I just thought sucked.

08-28-2003, 11:39 AM	#73
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	It was few years after the movie I read ab article about the TMNT. Thats where I first learned about Mirage comics, but since it was never released in Finland I had no means of getting any issues. It was about year and a half ago I returned to the TMNT fandom, registered here, Downloaded the whole old cartoon and bought every issue of Mirage. I like achie too, I own almost every issue release, altough they are all in Finnish.

08-28-2003, 11:41 AM	#74
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	What I loved about Archie was that while it started out as a direct adaptation of the cartoon, it went its own way and really "grew up". I was mad when it got cancelled, especially since it was so abrupt. That series definitely deserved a better ending. So did the Image series, but... I prefer to pretend the whole thing never happened.

08-28-2003, 11:47 AM	#75
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	As a kid I always prefered archie over the cartoon, it had very good stories most of the time. Haven't read thos books in years tough... Im sure they are still around somewhere. From the few issues of Image I have seen, I can say that I don't like it. Mainly because of all the mutilations. Im glad it doesn't belong to the Mirage continuity anymore.

08-28-2003, 11:49 AM	#76
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, I think the long-running joke amongst TMNT fans is that it's good for Mikey that the Image series ended when it did, otherwise he woulda probably been castrated.

08-28-2003, 11:53 AM	#77
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	the new cartoon is kind of a childrens show. It is not made for adults or anything. I love the new show just as much as the next guy but it is just like the second movie... which wasnt as bad as everyone says it is.

08-28-2003, 05:18 PM	#80
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	No...its a cartoon.