Is Nick Mikey really the dumbest of all Mikeys?

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

Not sure. Back in them days, there were two types of boys. The mature ones, that were either shy, and afraid to talk to you, or the ones with confidence and would try to impress you with their skills (be it throwing the perfect touchdown or solving the complicated math quiz) Then, there were the immature brats. The ones that liked you, but didn't really know how to go about telling you, so instead, would do stupid stuff to you like pranks or even be mean to you. Mikey just might be the kind of guy to go the latter route.

Hm, I kinda disagree with this. Despite what most think about Nick Mikey, being purposely mean wouldn't be one of them. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body, unless slashing Vision Quest's Rahzar's neck or trying to stab Bradford in the head counts. *still feels Nick Mikey has a dark side*

Out of the four, Mikey to me seems the most confident of them and doesn't seem to care what others think of him. He's like a free-spirit and very comfortable in his skin...or shell rather. Ironically, I'm looking forward to the Renet stuff (mainly because of the time traveling element and potential). I just couldn't see him reacting in the way Leo did with Karai or Donnie with April. In other words, I couldn't see him changing his personality and stuff or acting stereotypical, like you proposed. So yeah, Mikey with a crush has me highly curious, but I still hope that they don't do one for Raph. I like how he plays the straight man...er...turtle role. He's like the sarcastic Abbott to Leo, Donnie, and Mikey's Costello, imo.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Yes, he can. It's called OT Mikey.

Movies 1-3 Mikey too...or maybe movie 1. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit!"

[GoldMutant]

Sorry, just wanted to bring that up.

Anyways, the original toon and the movies (minus 3 and PD) captured the party dude perfectly. He was light-hearted, cool-witted, laid back, and just an overall fun guy you want. Perfect for the young demographic.

However, I don't think Mikey is dumb in the Nick show, but his characterization is one of the more off putting things in the series. Sometimes he's hilarious (The Olympics!), sometimes he's a bada** (Dimension X episodes), sometimes he's perfect for emotion (The Invasion and Leatherhead come to mind), but he has his fair share of stupidity. Due to him lacking substantial growth like Raphael in the show, Michelangelo always flips from likable to just untolerable.

I'd like Mikey to mature more, he can still be a goofball but has a lot of potential to grow. It almost went well following the Invasion, but the Croaking screwed him up.

I don't get why we have to dumb him down in the incarnations, he can be serious and funny. He's arguably the weakest character yet due to his age (and the fact he acts like Beast Boy from Teen Titans due to having Greg Cipes as the va), but it leaves a lot to be desired.

[Technogeek29]

Finally! How anyone finds this little numskull entertaining is beyond me.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Yes, Nick Mikey may be portrayed as a "young teen for the first time" but that does not help anything by the fact that he is considered the weakest link of the team. His brothers to this day still treat him with the lowest amount of respect. At this point, they should be trusting him but he still manages to do things that are either to make him look like a screw-up (setting off alarms) or just plain unsafe (mixing Don's retro-mutagen with another formula, which worked out of sheer dumb luck). Mikey being "adorable", "having a big heart", and "seeing the good in others" is just grasping straws.

[IndigoErth]

Maybe he's stuck in this mode to ensure that he comes off as "the baby brother" for some reason? Does his voice actor mainly only do young, ditzy sorts of characters? (Not really familiar with his work outside of this.)

Or maybe they keep him emotionally young for the purpose of pulling in some amount of young viewers with the Turtle that seems emotionally closer to their level and fun/funny....

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Hm, I kinda disagree with this. Despite what most think about Nick Mikey, being purposely mean wouldn't be one of them. He doesn't have a mean bone in his body, unless slashing Vision Quest's Rahzar's neck or trying to stab Bradford in the head counts. *still feels Nick Mikey has a dark side*

Out of the four, Mikey to me seems the most confident of them and doesn't seem to care what others think of him. He's like a free-spirit and very comfortable in his skin...or shell rather. Ironically, I'm looking forward to the Renet stuff (mainly because of the time traveling element and potential). I just couldn't see him reacting in the way Leo did with Karai or Donnie with April. In other words, I couldn't see him changing his personality and stuff or acting stereotypical, like you proposed. So yeah, Mikey with a crush has me highly curious, but I still hope that they don't do one for Raph. I like how he plays the straight man...er...turtle role. He's like the sarcastic Abbott to Leo, Donnie, and Mikey's Costello, imo.

Movies 1-3 Mikey too...or maybe movie 1. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit!"

Definitely all three. He was allowed to really shine in three, in fact!

Originally Posted by GoldMutant

Sorry, just wanted to bring that up.

Anyways, the original toon and the movies (minus 3 and PD) captured the party dude perfectly. He was light-hearted, cool-witted, laid back, and just an overall fun guy you want. Perfect for the young demographic.

However, I don't think Mikey is dumb in the Nick show, but his characterization is one of the more off putting things in the series. Sometimes he's hilarious (The Olympics!), sometimes he's a bada** (Dimension X episodes), sometimes he's perfect for emotion (The Invasion and Leatherhead come to mind), but he has his fair share of stupidity. Due to him lacking substantial growth like Raphael in the show, Michelangelo always flips from likable to just untolerable.

I'd like Mikey to mature more, he can still be a goofball but has a lot of potential to grow. It almost went well following the Invasion, but the Croaking screwed him up.

I don't get why we have to dumb him down in the incarnations, he can be serious and funny. He's arguably the weakest character yet due to his age (and the fact he acts like Beast Boy from Teen Titans due to having Greg Cipes as the va), but it leaves a lot to be desired.

Yup to all this. I would add movie 3, though. He was actually at his best, there, IMHO.

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

Yes, Nick Mikey may be portrayed as a "young teen for the first time" but that does not help anything by the fact that he is considered the weakest link of the team. His brothers to this day still treat him with the lowest amount of respect. At this point, they should be trusting him but he still manages to do things that are either to make him look like a screw-up (setting off alarms) or just plain unsafe (mixing Don's retro-mutagen with another formula, which worked out of sheer dumb luck). Mikey being "adorable", "having a big heart", and "seeing the good in others" is just grasping straws.

Exactly. 2007 Mikey had him act a bit slow, but Nick's Mikey just dumbed him down even further, to the point that he simply can't be taken seriously AT ALL.