Megan Fox the main character, Turtles secondary according to new info?

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

I feel a bit bad that I had forgotten her name was Rachel Dawes...

Probably not as bad as I felt after cheering when she died in the second movie. I really didn't like her at all, so much so that I actually took joy from her Fridge'ing.

And hey Electric-Sheep, can we keep the sexist insults to a zero please.

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Eh, since we're talking about them anyway...

I liked Batman Begins. I thought it was a well done take on the character and faithful in adapting the overall intent of the origin to film. I liked the deeper look into exploring the origin and development of Batman before he became Batman and the exploration of how he creates the mythos was done well.

The Dark Knight was fantastic as well. A few problems, I felt, but overall done well.

The Dark Knight Rises was an poorly conceived disasterous cluster bomb to me. I was legitimately bored with the film in theaters at the midnight release. It took everything that Nolan did poorly about Batman in BB and TDK and amplified it times ten without drawing on the strengths they established.

They tried to squeeze too many iconic storylines into a single film in my opinion and the movie, particularly Batman's character, suffered for it.

But there were also a lot of issues I had with the portrayal of Batman/Bruce Wayne's character through the whole trilogy, despite really liking the first two films. They were issues I was more than willing to forgive, but they were too magnified in the finale.

One particular gripe I had was them wanting to do the "oh, The Dark Knight Returns is cool" aspect and forcing it into the story. It doesn't have the same impact if Batman disappears and returns only to.....disappear and return........so he disappears.

[Candy Kappa]

I hope the next Batman movies will have little more fun with the property, not shying away from superhero stuff such as Venom, Lazarus pits and so on.

[electric_sheep]

Let's face it here people, Nolan can't create a good Female character to save his life.

[plastroncafe]

It's certainly a fine line to walk, that's for sure. Some stuff easily transfers from the page to the screen, other stuff...not so much.

It's why I think IM the first works so well, once you get over the hump of believing the ridiculous premise, it's all a straight up reality story.

Where as Batman, starts out rooted in reality, and then takes a turn for the bizarre. When it's done well you don't even notice you're watching a guy dressed up like a bat fight a vigilante war against organized crime.

It's so easy to snap the strings that suspend one's disbelief. For me? Bale's Batman Voice did it. Everything up to that voice had me dead to rights.

When the first Turtle Movie came out the animatronics were so state of the art it was so easy to believe that the turtles were real things. They were right there! But...that movie hasn't aged well at all. Through no fault of its own, just because the goal posts have been moved.

Compared to the effects in something like "Where the Wild Things Are? It just doesn't hold a candle.

And yet, having the men in suits not be CGI means you don't have to worry about the Uncanny Valley like we're going to for the new movie.

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

It's certainly a fine line to walk, that's for sure. Some stuff easily transfers from the page to the screen, other stuff...not so much.

It's why I think IM the first works so well, once you get over the hump of believing the ridiculous premise, it's all a straight up reality story.

Where as Batman, starts out rooted in reality, and then takes a turn for the bizarre. When it's done well you don't even notice you're watching a guy dressed up like a bat fight a vigilante war against organized crime.

It's so easy to snap the strings that suspend one's disbelief. For me? Bale's Batman Voice did it. Everything up to that voice had me dead to rights.

When the first Turtle Movie came out the animatronics were so state of the art it was so easy to believe that the turtles were real things. They were right there! But...that movie hasn't aged well at all. Through no fault of its own, just because the goal posts have been moved.

Compared to the effects in something like "Where the Wild Things Are? It just doesn't hold a candle.

And yet, having the men in suits not be CGI means you don't have to worry about the Uncanny Valley like we're going to for the new movie.

Actualy the voice in the BB wasn't that bad, it was when dark knight came around that it got ridiculous, TDKR amplified it up to 11, that scene on the rooftop where he talks to Selina (who knows that is Bruce) and he is still doing it was cringe worthy, plus they gave her a ridiculous voice to, it wasn't a comedy, right?

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by electric_sheep

Actualy the voice in the BB wasn't that bad, it was when dark knight came around that it got ridiculous, TDKR amplified it up to 11, that scene on the rooftop where he talks to Selina (who knows that is Bruce) and he is still doing it was cringe worthy, plus they gave her a ridiculous voice to, it wasn't a comedy, right?

He spoke to Lucius and Alfred with his growling voice too. That always irked me.

I think it's all part of the fact that the man playing the part said he felt ridiculous in the role, the entire concept made no sense to him and he couldn't take himself seriously dressing up in the costume to fight crime and the gutteral voice was part of what helped him sell it to himself. Basically, Bale didn't conceptually accept the Batman idea.

I'm confident that Affleck is actually better prepared to play the role than perhaps anyone before him from the psychology aspect. Plus, Kevin Smith is always available to smack him in the head and say "What the hell are you thinking?! NO! BAD BATFLECK!" *smack with newspaper*

[plastroncafe]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

I'm confident that Affleck is actually better prepared to play the role than perhaps anyone before him from the psychology aspect. Plus, Kevin Smith is always available to smack him in the head and say "What the hell are you thinking?! NO! BAD BATFLECK!" *smack with newspaper*

"You are NOT the night! What you are is in time out until you get it right!"

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

He spoke to Lucius and Alfred with his growling voice too. That always irked me.

I think it's all part of the fact that the man playing the part said he felt ridiculous in the role, the entire concept made no sense to him and he couldn't take himself seriously dressing up in the costume to fight crime and the gutteral voice was part of what helped him sell it to himself. Basically, Bale didn't conceptually accept the Batman idea.

I'm confident that Affleck is actually better prepared to play the role than perhaps anyone before him from the psychology aspect. Plus, Kevin Smith is always available to smack him in the head and say "What the hell are you thinking?! NO! BAD BATFLECK!" *smack with newspaper*

yeah, I've noticed that to, his batman always felt forced, He is supposed to be Batman, Wayne is the fake persona, it felt reversed.
Bad Batfleck, Bad! Now, do it right!

[1984TMNT]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

He spoke to Lucius and Alfred with his growling voice too. That always irked me.

That was part of his persona though....he was "in the zone" for the most part in those scenes and when in the suit. He "isn't" Bruce when he has the suit on. Whether he's talking to someone that knows his secret or not.

I dunno....that never bothered me. Not to mention, he definitely dials it down a bit when talking to people who know him while in the suit, anyhow. IE: the scene with Gordon in BB when he's explaining what happened to Rachel, in TDK when talking to Lucious explaining his sonar equipment plan, etc. Still growling a bit, just not very (or with as much) intensity.

[Aaronardo]

As an optimist, I'd call this a good thing. Now, while this style doesn't work for Transformers, they are Ninja Turtles last I checked. Anyone who's a fan of TMNT or is Ninja themselves knows that Ninja are to stay in the shadows, especially giant green turtles. With apparent nostrils.

As long as the Turtles are the ones in the war with Shredder and Megan Fox isn't the one fighting him in the end (unless she knocks him out with her hips), it'll be fine. But, like I said, this'll keep them more in the shadows and thus make them more Ninja, thus making the movie a little bit more realistic.

(However, that's not to say I've seen the IGN video yet. "Spoiler Alert" came up and I wanted to be surprised when I see it alongside Winter Solider).

[SwiftNinjaFox]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

As an optimist, I'd call this a good thing. Now, while this style doesn't work for Transformers, they are Ninja Turtles last I checked. Anyone who's a fan of TMNT or is Ninja themselves knows that Ninja are to stay in the shadows, especially giant green turtles. With apparent nostrils.

As long as the Turtles are the ones in the war with Shredder and Megan Fox isn't the one fighting him in the end (unless she knocks him out with her hips), it'll be fine. But, like I said, this'll keep them more in the shadows and thus make them more Ninja, thus making the movie a little bit more realistic.

(However, that's not to say I've seen the IGN video yet. "Spoiler Alert" came up and I wanted to be surprised when I see it alongside Winter Solider).

From what's slipping out from the trailer descriptions and photos, the mean greens seem like they may be the worst ninja ever in terms of staying concealed.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

From what's slipping out from the trailer descriptions and photos, the mean greens seem like they may be the worst ninja ever in terms of staying concealed.

Heh, true. But I, like a couple of others, won't judge that part until I see the trailer myself. Staying optimistic.
Now, if the trailer sucks, my expectations will go down. Big time.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

As an optimist, I'd call this a good thing. Now, while this style doesn't work for Transformers, they are Ninja Turtles last I checked. Anyone who's a fan of TMNT or is Ninja themselves knows that Ninja are to stay in the shadows, especially giant green turtles. With apparent nostrils.

As long as the Turtles are the ones in the war with Shredder and Megan Fox isn't the one fighting him in the end (unless she knocks him out with her hips), it'll be fine. But, like I said, this'll keep them more in the shadows and thus make them more Ninja, thus making the movie a little bit more realistic.

(However, that's not to say I've seen the IGN video yet. "Spoiler Alert" came up and I wanted to be surprised when I see it alongside Winter Solider).

...that's taking it a bit too literally.

The movie is called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

I want to see Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

Not Megan Fox reacting to things.

[UGHShellshocked]

Hopefully she has more to her than Bella Swan did where the writer left her personality and description blank so that teen girls could imagine themselves in her position.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

This is called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

But that's just my point, if they're Ninja, shouldn't they stay more in the shadows? Ninja are shrouded in mystery. The less they show up, the more they're shrouded in mystery, making it more realistic.
Yes, I may be taking it a little too literally, but if Ninja Turtles are going to be more Ninja than ever, that could work out.
However, you and I maybe envisioning this differently. I envision the TMNT and April getting equal screen time (or April getting just a little more screentime than the TMNT), and you might be envisioning it as TMNT barely getting any screentime and April getting it all. I can't argue with it, however, because we don't know until we know.

[TrickOrTreater]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

But that's just my point, if they're Ninja, shouldn't they stay more in the shadows? Ninja are shrouded in mystery. The less they show up, the more they're shrouded in mystery, making it more realistic.

Yes, to characters in the movie.

Not to the audience.

[blindturtle02]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

From what's slipping out from the trailer descriptions and photos, the mean greens seem like they may be the worst ninja ever in terms of staying concealed.

Yep. They might not act too ninja esk in this one. Smashing into things and all that, from what I'm hearing.

Guys, as for who's going to save the day, c'mon! We all know it's that good ol wisecracking new and improved rootin tootin crime fightin Vernon! Complete with video camera gun, pencil knife, and clipboard shield. What? He might very well be using his ol 1992figure release weapons. The Burton Joker killed someone with a pen. Anywho, isn't Vernon supposed to be witty and kickbutt this time around? I just can't picture Vernon using a gun though. Now that's scary. Ok, the whole idea of him saving the day is scary. Thanks for planting that notion in my noggin, whoever came up with it originally. I seriously owe you a pizza if it comes true, but the idea of Vernon getting more screen time than the turtles much less saving the day has me feeling like cowering in terror! I'd post this and check on other threads, but in the words of 87 Krang,"I'm afraid to touch the computerherherher!"

[electric_sheep]

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

But that's just my point, if they're Ninja, shouldn't they stay more in the shadows? Ninja are shrouded in mystery. The less they show up, the more they're shrouded in mystery, making it more realistic.
Yes, I may be taking it a little too literally, but if Ninja Turtles are going to be more Ninja than ever, that could work out.
However, you and I maybe envisioning this differently. I envision the TMNT and April getting equal screen time (or April getting just a little more screentime than the TMNT), and you might be envisioning it as TMNT barely getting any screentime and April getting it all. I can't argue with it, however, because we don't know until we know.

well when the original turtles did it they where lean and small, they strike hard and fade away into the night. Sadly now "ninja" in the title makes no sense, you can't wanish into the night when you are big as Hulk..

[samxsteal]

Originally Posted by SwiftNinjaFox

From what's slipping out from the trailer descriptions and photos, the mean greens seem like they may be the worst ninja ever in terms of staying concealed.

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

Heh, true. But I, like a couple of others, won't judge that part until I see the trailer myself. Staying optimistic.
Now, if the trailer sucks, my expectations will go down. Big time.

Originally Posted by That Collector Guy

But that's just my point, if they're Ninja, shouldn't they stay more in the shadows? Ninja are shrouded in mystery. The less they show up, the more they're shrouded in mystery, making it more realistic.
Yes, I may be taking it a little too literally, but if Ninja Turtles are going to be more Ninja than ever, that could work out.
However, you and I maybe envisioning this differently. I envision the TMNT and April getting equal screen time (or April getting just a little more screentime than the TMNT), and you might be envisioning it as TMNT barely getting any screentime and April getting it all. I can't argue with it, however, because we don't know until we know.

Originally Posted by blindturtle02

Yep. They might not act too ninja esk in this one. Smashing into things and all that, from what I'm hearing.

Guys, as for who's going to save the day, c'mon! We all know it's that good ol wisecracking new and improved rootin tootin crime fightin Vernon! Complete with video camera gun, pencil knife, and clipboard shield. What? He might very well be using his ol 1992figure release weapons. The Burton Joker killed someone with a pen. Anywho, isn't Vernon supposed to be witty and kickbutt this time around? I just can't picture Vernon using a gun though. Now that's scary. Ok, the whole idea of him saving the day is scary. Thanks for planting that notion in my noggin, whoever came up with it originally. I seriously owe you a pizza if it comes true, but the idea of Vernon getting more screen time than the turtles much less saving the day has me feeling like cowering in terror! I'd post this and check on other threads, but in the words of 87 Krang,"I'm afraid to touch the computerherherher!"

From one of the Description it say Leo and Mikey appear in-front of April as if from nowhere, yes there is a large thump when he lands but were did he come from how did he just appear quickly from thin air, that seems ninja to me. The crashing into thing happens in the wolf series and nick series all the time.