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Old 10-04-2014, 08:26 AM   #81
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I can totally see them making a plush version of ICK at Build the Bear.
I really want a plush ICK.
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I really want a plush ICK.
I'm just making one. I don't expect to see her on shelves.
I'm also making my cat Ice Cream Kitty for Halloween.
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Maybe the top of ICK should be of cotton/stuffing whatever and the bottom part should be filled with bean bag material so that it can stand on a shelf.
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Old 10-04-2014, 02:34 PM   #84
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Is thing Sunday? Legend of Korra one is. Also are they giving us some thing special?

I guess the Legend of Korra panel is giving a view of the second episode of season four.
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Old 10-04-2014, 03:52 PM   #85
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No, the TMNT panel is on Friday.
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Old 10-04-2014, 04:07 PM   #86
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Is thing Sunday? Legend of Korra one is. Also are they giving us some thing special?

I guess the Legend of Korra panel is giving a view of the second episode of season four.
The Korra panel is Thursday.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:49 PM   #87
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If the creators intentions all along were to have Irma be a robot, and then just to never be seen again but then are forced to bring her back because of fan demand (maybe Nick execs or Playmates could force the change) this could be bad because the creators just might take Irma and really bastardize her character as a final FU to anyone questioning their storytelling.
Or maybe even KILL HER OFF.
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^ This. Totally this. Also, you have to remember that there is the possibility that Irma is still out there. I doubt they'd introduce her just to get rid of her. The Kraang plot worked perfectly with what they wanted to do, and it gave that shock value they were looking for. No big deal here.
Just because someone doesn't intend harm doesn't mean they don't cause it. Just because a writer thinks he's hot stuff doesn't mean we all have to nod our heads and agree.

Seriously; I'm getting sick of all these conventions, interviews and press movies where Nieli and company just flex their egos and revel in every decision they make like it's a great one, and the people clap like trained seals. It's high time they hear from the people who hate Apriltello. (I don't, but I understand the hate.). It's time they hear from the people who maybe like the pairing but hate the love triangle. The people who want April and Casey and whatever other humans exist in this world to be shown to have a life; instead of just being pieces in the Turtles' lives. The people who think it was moronic to mutate Karai (and contrary to what was said at the San Diego convention, in a big way it does not make her even more badass. ) The people who've had it up with all this mutation, period. (Vomit monsters? Really?!)

Creators should have to face their detractors from time to time. If the people who love everything about their work are the only ones who matter, they don't need to talk to them at all. If they really have no intentions to make any changes to their plans, they shouldn't bother pretending to be communicative. Ciro Nieli's creation is wearing out its welcome. The Irma bit was just one of many groan-inducing things about it.
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^ This. Totally this. Also, you have to remember that there is the possibility that Irma is still out there. I doubt they'd introduce her just to get rid of her. The Kraang plot worked perfectly with what they wanted to do, and it gave that shock value they were looking for. No big deal here.
One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.

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Just because someone doesn't intend harm doesn't mean they don't cause it. Just because a writer thinks he's hot stuff doesn't mean we all have to nod our heads and agree.

Seriously; I'm getting sick of all these conventions, interviews and press movies where Nieli and company just flex their egos and revel in every decision they make like it's a great one, and the people clap like trained seals. It's high time they hear from the people who hate Apriltello. (I don't, but I understand the hate.). It's time they hear from the people who maybe like the pairing but hate the love triangle. The people who want April and Casey and whatever other humans exist in this world to be shown to have a life; instead of just being pieces in the Turtles' lives. The people who think it was moronic to mutate Karai (and contrary to what was said at the San Diego convention, in a big way it does not make her even more badass. ) The people who've had it up with all this mutation, period. (Vomit monsters? Really?!)

Creators should have to face their detractors from time to time. If the people who love everything about their work are the only ones who matter, they don't need to talk to them at all. If they really have no intentions to make any changes to their plans, they shouldn't bother pretending to be communicative. Ciro Nieli's creation is wearing out its welcome. The Irma bit was just one of many groan-inducing things about it.
I have seen on Facebook and other blogs that because of this Ciro dude, and his comments on how females are too hard for him to write because they get too powerful, kind of pissed off a lot of female fans and have stopped watching any show he's involved with. I guess he's never heard of the expression, if you can't say nothing nice, then don't say anything at all. It's a shame he feels that way. Everyone that I personally know that watches TMNT, are females. Unfortunately for everyone involved, many of them did like Irma pre robot.

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One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.

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They say a lot of sh!t that ends up false.
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That is true. I guess this only shows how much egg are on their faces.
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One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.

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If this the case...oh well. Loved the twist, still not keen on there not being a real Irma for reasons mentioned that would make sense if she was a Kraangbot part of the time, not the entire time.
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I have seen on Facebook and other blogs that because of this Ciro dude, and his comments on how females are too hard for him to write because they get too powerful, kind of pissed off a lot of female fans and have stopped watching any show he's involved with. I guess he's never heard of the expression, if you can't say nothing nice, then don't say anything at all. It's a shame he feels that way. Everyone that I personally know that watches TMNT, are females. Unfortunately for everyone involved, many of them did like Irma pre robot.



They say a lot of sh!t that ends up false.
You mean like how they announced that Slash will be an ally to the Turtles, but didn't start as one in Slash and Destroy?
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You mean like how they announced that Slash will be an ally to the Turtles, but didn't start as one in Slash and Destroy?
Or, when the storyboards dealing with Karai asking Shredder if Splinter was her father surfaced, and someone asked Ciro about it, he said it was fake. And then, OMG, it became true. They are not going to come out right and spoil stuff for the fans, they want to keep you guessing. I may not like many of the things that have transpired, but I do like some of the surprises that do come up. I get a bit perturbed with how Raph is sometimes (turkey head, messing up alot, not being there for major fight scenes) but I do like the times when he does show his protector side, and when he does show up, he kicks all sorts of ass. I am just hoping that the writers do something with him seeing Shredder throw down Splinter, and it's he who gets personal with the Shredder for once, and not Leo. Or, maybe both of them have payback while the other two are kicking the asses of Rahzar and Tigerclaw.
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One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.

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Fan-demand is a strong thing.
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One of the writers already said that they have no intention of bringing back Irma.

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I can't say I'm devastated or anything - I liked Irma well enough and I do think she served a purpose, but the reveal was a shocker and I really appreciate how they pulled that off. I'd be happy if they brought a "real Irma" into the show, but if they choose not to I can respect that too.

I do think it's important to add more fully-developed female characters, though. Karai is one of the better characters on the show, but I'm concerned that her mutation will sideline her a bit for the time being. And I like April, and she has potential, but the focus on the Casey-Donnie triangle really sells her short as a character and it seems to have put the brakes on her own development.

I've said it before, but I think Angel would be a strong addition to the cast right about now.

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I'm just making one. I don't expect to see her on shelves.
I'm also making my cat Ice Cream Kitty for Halloween.
Thats adorable. Post pics please.
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Who exactly said it?
One of the writers, Brandon Auman, said that the sub prime kraang might come back and that there was no human Irma. I saw the quote somewhere but I'll message you the link.

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I can't say I'm devastated or anything - I liked Irma well enough and I do think she served a purpose, but the reveal was a shocker and I really appreciate how they pulled that off. I'd be happy if they brought a "real Irma" into the show, but if they choose not to I can respect that too.

I do think it's important to add more fully-developed female characters, though. Karai is one of the better characters on the show, but I'm concerned that her mutation will sideline her a bit for the time being. And I like April, and she has potential, but the focus on the Casey-Donnie triangle really sells her short as a character and it seems to have put the brakes on her own development.

I've said it before, but I think Angel would be a strong addition to the cast right about now.

(And hey, excellent gif choice!)
Why thank you! But anyway, I know what it feels like to be disappointed. I think it would be better to write another female character that has more thought to her like Angel or my idea for Mona Lisa to be a grad student that's studying mutants for her thesis.
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One of the writers, Brandon Autumn, said that the sub prime kraang might come back and that there was no human Irma. I saw the quote somewhere but I'll message you the link.



Why thank you! But anyway, I know what it feels like to be disappointed. I think it would be better to write another female character that has more thought to her like Angel or my idea for Mona Lisa to be a grad student that's studying mutants for her thesis.
Well, if may I say something, I still have hope that Irma remains human.
The fake one was too much human and with so much personality to being a Kraangdroid all along. And the desing of Irma was so well done, AND since the 80s show she was always portrayed as an ally. The crew grew up watching the first show so I don't thing they would forget about Irma.

I honestly belive that Ciro might think about it, because I twiter him about her and he favorite it. It's true! I've found his twiter
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