Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2 Gets A New Title! - Page 5

*Bry* · 03-28-2015, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Galactus

Also with a rumored budget of a paltry 70 million then you wonder that they are wasting money on this.

Is that the entire budget? I've heard that number repeated a few times on here, but I haven't read any reports about it personally, so I've got no idea.

If that's true, then the budget for the sequel would be basically slashed in half from the first's. That seems kind of insane.

*IndigoErth* · 03-28-2015, 05:41 PM

While something like an NBA game is outside the norm for a TMNT movie and sounds absurd as the first bit of info we hear, what disappoints me is knowing they probably won't take these normal real life settings as an opportunity to treat these characters like people. I doubt most of them in charge can even wrap their minds around that concept.

Sure, the Turtles are a bit different than the average New Yorker, but if they're trying to make them fit the real world then it would help if they recognized that the guys would still have other aspects of their lives that are separate from just fighting the bad guys. (Film makers read: the down time people have asked for - for the Turtles, not Vern.) They aren't just weird "talking animals" who go home and sit in the dark until the next bad guy does something terrible. They're people who probably go home after a long night and grab some dinner and crash in front of the tv for a bit before going to bed.

Chances are high that, like many other people in the city, some or all of the Turtles might be fans of the local teams. What the Turtles might not give - other than blowing their cover - to have the option of attending one of those fabled super bowl parties with other fans. Why not tap into that? (Not necessarily those topics or spend too much time on it than a film can fit, but that perspective at least.) If they're trying to make them real to the viewer, simple things that are that relateable would go a long way. If they ever mange to do it I'll be pleasantly shocked.

Should be added I guess that their bedroom in particular being so full of their posters and other stuff helps that, I assume, but then of course in the actual film it was barely there.

*MrTMNT2012* · 03-28-2015, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TrickOrTreater

I didn't...claim it was what the f*ck are you talking about?

Just saying there's no point in saying you didn't pay to see the movie when it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-28-2015, 05:55 PM

That can't be the budget. $70 million won't cover the catering on most of these types of flicks nowadays. That had to have been misreported or misquoted.

If it's accurate though... Haha, nice. If it openly looks like crap, people won't be razzle-dazzled into defending it.

Doubt it, though. Way too much CGI (we're talking 7-8 characters, at least, that will be all or heavily CGI) for that low a number. I do remember reading "TMNT 2" and "$70 million" in the same place, but I can't remember where, and I doubt it was referring to the entire budget. That seems crazy low.

*snake* · 03-28-2015, 06:03 PM

Weird. It's probably just a working title.

How they haven't come up with something better is beyond me.

*NinjaPug* · 03-28-2015, 06:06 PM

I doubt that's the full production budget but if $70 million is then PD really doesn't give a crap about making anything decent. They're just trying to increase their bottom line.

Why should they waste money on this? The first one proved you don't need to put any thought into a TMNT movie to have people show up.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-28-2015, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah, it was people who thought it was the "BEST THING EVAR!!!" seeing it upwards of 5 times.

Not true. I saw it twice in the theater, and my hubby saw it with me the second time- but I didn't pay for any of those tickets. They were the freebies from Crush and the Nick TMNT DVD.

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

While something like an NBA game is outside the norm for a TMNT movie and sounds absurd as the first bit of info we hear, what disappoints me is knowing they probably won't take these normal real life settings as an opportunity to treat these characters like people. I doubt most of them in charge can even wrap their minds around that concept.

Sure, the Turtles are a bit different than the average New Yorker, but if they're trying to make them fit the real world then it would help if they recognized that the guys would still have other aspects of their lives that are separate from just fighting the bad guys. (Film makers read: the down time people have asked for - for the Turtles, not Vern.) They aren't just weird "talking animals" who go home and sit in the dark until the next bad guy does something terrible. They're people who probably go home after a long night and grab some dinner and crash in front of the tv for a bit before going to bed.

Chances are high that, like many other people in the city, some or all of the Turtles might be fans of the local teams. What the Turtles might not give - other than blowing their cover - to have the option of attending one of those fabled super bowl parties with other fans. Why not tap into that? (Not necessarily those topics or spend too much time on it than a film can fit, but that perspective at least.) If they're trying to make them real to the viewer, simple things that are that relateable would go a long way. If they ever mange to do it I'll be pleasantly shocked.

Should be added I guess that their bedroom in particular being so full of their posters and other stuff helps that, I assume, but then of course in the actual film it was barely there.

I'd actually like to see something like that, where they are sneaking in to watch a game, and Vern just happens to be there. Or maybe April is doing an interview at the game, and Vern's there, and something happens while they are doing the interview that gets the turtles involved. Any of these things could happen, and all of them would make sense.

*Galactus* · 03-28-2015, 06:26 PM

There's a few articles which claim that they will spend an estimated 63 million out of a budget of 70 million while shooting in New York.

It does sound unlikely that this is the whole budget. I would guess that's just for shooting and there will be more for cgi and the like.

That being said I don't think the budget will be significantly more than the last. I have a suspicion that it might be the same or less. I know Liebesman was banking on the cgi being cheaper to do in the sequel now that they had the models for the turtles, Splinter and Shredder and Dave Green is apparently good for working on big visuals on a small budget. Who knows maybe 70 mill is a more accurate figure than we may believe.

**Jester** · 03-28-2015, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not true. I saw it twice in the theater, and my hubby saw it with me the second time- but I didn't pay for any of those tickets. They were the freebies from Crush and the Nick TMNT DVD.

Well, there's always exceptions to the rule....

Did you think it was "TEH BEST THING EVAR!" though? Seeing it twice, for free, doesn't equate to enjoying it.

Cryomancer · 03-28-2015, 06:48 PM

"Yeah, I really want Vern to come back in a new TMNT movie" -no one, ever

"That was great, but how about if Vern had a girlfriend and scenes dedicated to just those two?" -somehow yet even less than no one, ever

**Jester** · 03-28-2015, 06:49 PM

"Who sees a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, anyway?" - Paramount/Platinum Dunes Execs.

*Bry* · 03-28-2015, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Not true. I saw it twice in the theater, and my hubby saw it with me the second time- but I didn't pay for any of those tickets. They were the freebies from Crush and the Nick TMNT DVD.

I'm still curious if all the freebie tickets they were throwing around counted toward the box office totals. Because those things were everywhere.

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

I'd actually like to see something like that, where they are sneaking in to watch a game, and Vern just happens to be there. Or maybe April is doing an interview at the game, and Vern's there, and something happens while they are doing the interview that gets the turtles involved. Any of these things could happen, and all of them would make sense.

A live NBA game would be the most risky place ever for them to "hide" - bright lights and cameras everywhere. Then again, they didn't care much about being stealthy in the first movie, so.

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Originally Posted by Galactus

There's a few articles which claim that they will spend an estimated 63 million out of a budget of 70 million while shooting in New York.

It does sound unlikely that this is the whole budget. I would guess that's just for shooting and there will be more for cgi and the like.

That sounds more realistic. Regardless - I'm curious. Either the budget's been slashed (and would likely look it) or it's as/more expensive than the first and coming out in a far more competitive month.

*pennydreadful* · 03-28-2015, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

If it openly looks like crap, people won't be razzle-dazzled into defending it.

Oh yes they will. You know there'll always be folks who will defend it no matter what.

I think it's like, Stockholm Syndrome at work or something.

**Jester** · 03-28-2015, 07:05 PM

Yeah, the TMNT fandom has something I'm going to coin "Stockman Syndrome."

"I've gotta support ANYTHING TMNT, even the worst, or else we'll never get GOOD TMNT again."

~~Leo656~~ · 03-28-2015, 07:14 PM

Don't forget, "It made money, so it's awesome."

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 03-28-2015, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bry

I'm still curious if all the freebie tickets they were throwing around counted toward the box office totals. Because those things were everywhere.

Yeah, it makes me wonder a little if Paramount was concerned that ticket sales might be a little underwhelming, so they encouraged people to see it through free tickets on Crush soda or wherever.

Say what you will about this film, they did a good job plastering the turtles across every Crush soda they could.

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 03-28-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Well, there's always exceptions to the rule....

Did you think it was "TEH BEST THING EVAR!" though? Seeing it twice, for free, doesn't equate to enjoying it.

I liked it enough to see it again, obviously, even though I could've used those Crush tickets for a different movie. Never claimed it was "BEST THING EVER!", but I liked it for what it was.

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Originally Posted by Bry

A live NBA game would be the most risky place ever for them to "hide" - bright lights and cameras everywhere. Then again, they didn't care much about being stealthy in the first movie, so.

Eh, not if they went "Gargoyle style", and hid in the rafters or under stands or something. Most arenas have plenty of places one could hide in to watch without anyone seeing you. Though it would be funny if they just disguised themselves like in the "Fallen Angel" episode of 2K3 at the Purple Dragons initiation fight. Then they could hide right in the middle of the crowd, and no one would notice! (Stretching it, I know, given their size, but.... I'm going for the "ironic" factor here. Run with it, LOL!)

~~Leo656~~ · 03-28-2015, 07:40 PM

They are seven feet tall and weigh about 700lbs each. Climbing in rafters? Are you serious? They play jacks with shipping crates, for crap's sake. They'd cause serious structural damage.

Like, maybe the Ninja Turtles could do that kinda thing, yeah. Not these Shrek/Hulk?Gamera monstrosities.

Then again, "F*** Physics" could've been the first movie's subtitle, so whatever. It'd look stupid with these goofs, though.

**Jester** · 03-28-2015, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Then again, "F*** Physics" could've been the first movie's subtitle, so whatever. It'd look stupid with these goofs, though.

Indeed:

*Redeemer* · 03-28-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

Indeed:

That scene is funny literally make me laugh out loud.
I am hoping it means the sequel will take a new direction.

03-28-2015, 06:48 PM	#90
Cryomancer Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1,090	"Yeah, I really want Vern to come back in a new TMNT movie" -no one, ever "That was great, but how about if Vern had a girlfriend and scenes dedicated to just those two?" -somehow yet even less than no one, ever __________________ Final Boss of translation group Opentrain. We do videogame comics and TMNT stuff. http://opentrain.theyear199x.org/

03-28-2015, 06:49 PM	#91
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	"Who sees a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie for Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, anyway?" - Paramount/Platinum Dunes Execs. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-28-2015, 07:05 PM	#94
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,296	Yeah, the TMNT fandom has something I'm going to coin "Stockman Syndrome." "I've gotta support ANYTHING TMNT, even the worst, or else we'll never get GOOD TMNT again." __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-28-2015, 05:41 PM	#82
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,293	While something like an NBA game is outside the norm for a TMNT movie and sounds absurd as the first bit of info we hear, what disappoints me is knowing they probably won't take these normal real life settings as an opportunity to treat these characters like people. I doubt most of them in charge can even wrap their minds around that concept. Sure, the Turtles are a bit different than the average New Yorker, but if they're trying to make them fit the real world then it would help if they recognized that the guys would still have other aspects of their lives that are separate from just fighting the bad guys. (Film makers read: the down time people have asked for - for the Turtles, not Vern.) They aren't just weird "talking animals" who go home and sit in the dark until the next bad guy does something terrible. They're people who probably go home after a long night and grab some dinner and crash in front of the tv for a bit before going to bed. Chances are high that, like many other people in the city, some or all of the Turtles might be fans of the local teams. What the Turtles might not give - other than blowing their cover - to have the option of attending one of those fabled super bowl parties with other fans. Why not tap into that? (Not necessarily those topics or spend too much time on it than a film can fit, but that perspective at least.) If they're trying to make them real to the viewer, simple things that are that relateable would go a long way. If they ever mange to do it I'll be pleasantly shocked. Should be added I guess that their bedroom in particular being so full of their posters and other stuff helps that, I assume, but then of course in the actual film it was barely there.

03-28-2015, 05:55 PM	#84
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	That can't be the budget. $70 million won't cover the catering on most of these types of flicks nowadays. That had to have been misreported or misquoted. If it's accurate though... Haha, nice. If it openly looks like crap, people won't be razzle-dazzled into defending it. Doubt it, though. Way too much CGI (we're talking 7-8 characters, at least, that will be all or heavily CGI) for that low a number. I do remember reading "TMNT 2" and "$70 million" in the same place, but I can't remember where, and I doubt it was referring to the entire budget. That seems crazy low.

03-28-2015, 06:03 PM	#85
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Weird. It's probably just a working title. How they haven't come up with something better is beyond me.

03-28-2015, 06:06 PM	#86
NinjaPug Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 4,390	I doubt that's the full production budget but if $70 million is then PD really doesn't give a crap about making anything decent. They're just trying to increase their bottom line. Why should they waste money on this? The first one proved you don't need to put any thought into a TMNT movie to have people show up.

03-28-2015, 06:26 PM	#88
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	There's a few articles which claim that they will spend an estimated 63 million out of a budget of 70 million while shooting in New York. It does sound unlikely that this is the whole budget. I would guess that's just for shooting and there will be more for cgi and the like. That being said I don't think the budget will be significantly more than the last. I have a suspicion that it might be the same or less. I know Liebesman was banking on the cgi being cheaper to do in the sequel now that they had the models for the turtles, Splinter and Shredder and Dave Green is apparently good for working on big visuals on a small budget. Who knows maybe 70 mill is a more accurate figure than we may believe.

03-28-2015, 07:14 PM	#95
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Don't forget, "It made money, so it's awesome."

03-28-2015, 07:40 PM	#98
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	They are seven feet tall and weigh about 700lbs each. Climbing in rafters? Are you serious? They play jacks with shipping crates, for crap's sake. They'd cause serious structural damage. Like, maybe the Ninja Turtles could do that kinda thing, yeah. Not these Shrek/Hulk?Gamera monstrosities. Then again, "F*** Physics" could've been the first movie's subtitle, so whatever. It'd look stupid with these goofs, though.