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**ThirdMarioBro** · 06-08-2003, 03:35 PM

I take that back, it's right after where Shredder takes Don's staff when you see April and Leo in the corner.

Caliosidhe · 06-08-2003, 04:42 PM

I though when I saw that that
Heck, since they're wrapped in blue, maybe they are Leo's? I'm sure they all know how to fight with each others weapons, they just have their preferences.

If it was a coloring error it'd have to be a MASSIVE one, since it would be more then just a bandana changing color. All the turtles are different colors

*Mr. Snackpants* · 06-08-2003, 05:09 PM

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Sun Jun 08, 2003 4:25 pm
Posted by:ThirdMarioBro
AH-HA! I saw it. First of all, that is Raph with Leo's mask in the preview for next week. You can tell by the way he's standing and the look on his face. If you need further proof, then play back the preview on tape. Slow it down while Shredder is fighting Splinter, and you can see April taking care of Leo in the corner of the room. It's kinda hard to see because the preview moves so fast, but it's there.

Just because April is taking care of Leo in the corner doesnt mean its not him with the sais. That could be early in the episode and later when he decides to get up and fight, he has the sais.

Aztec General · 06-08-2003, 05:13 PM

Stop me if I'm being redundant but Shredder Strikes Back Part One was AMAZING! Wow, I've watched it 3 times since Saturday and I still can't get over what a great job they did. I love this series.

**Karpo_007** · 06-08-2003, 05:39 PM

As do we all.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 06-08-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Turkituck

I loved how they showed another side of Splinter; the father raising 4 teenagers who can very often get on his nerves

I LOVED that! **sigh**Where's Machi when you need her.

This Ep. was BREATHTAKING, the best TV show I've seen in years! I even liked the belch and Don's comment!

Just one problem, thanks to this ep., I'm now officially pissed off at the old show for not including the Shredder elite! They ROCK!

**GK Punk** · 06-08-2003, 06:19 PM

Welll..... there was an A's game or something on here instead of TMNT when I tried to watch it... straight up ruined my day. I wish AT&T Would hurry up and install DSL lines in my area so I can go back to downloading the eps again.

Vroomkid · 06-08-2003, 07:31 PM

Guys, perhaps we should just wait it out till next week to see if there's some clever ploy explaining this miscoloured bandana / weapon situation?

As for no errors in this series...hehe, I think I spot one in this ep. Hate to say this, although Shredder Strikes Back is good, it ain't perfect.

Look at the scene right after Leo's defeated by the Foot Elite. It cuts to a clock ticking in April's apartment and the time is around 8:36. Next thing you know when it cuts to a wide shot of the 3 Turtles and the clock in the background, the clock's back to 8:00.....now any one up to the challenge of defending this animation mistake?

Shadow · 06-08-2003, 07:53 PM

okay okay.

I have 222 posts to look through...since my computer was not hooked up for like five days!!!

About this episode. OH MY GOD!!! Def. one of the best out there. My new fave.

Here is why:
animation was killer....so much drama was brough out just in the transitions to wide screen...and close ups. nice.

score: um...so when did cartoons get such a freaking awesome score? I want a cd. I was dancing one minute while i watched. I LOVE IT

Writing. wonderful use of juxtaposition. Mikey's burp is a prime example of that. So much comedy, and so much drama.....loved it.

it did have that TMNT 2 feel to it. I liked that....

I'm not totally framilar with the origional comics...so I kept thinking..."shouldn't it be Raph and not Leo?" But I stopped thinking that when he turned the mask. I think I was actually giddy at that point.

I give this eppisode 10 mangos.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 06-08-2003, 08:10 PM

Y'know there wouldn't be any animation mistakes about mask-color if they all wore red!

Just a thought!

Anyway, as of this episode, the new TMNT cartoon is now my second favorite version of TMNT dethroning Archie. To illustrate, before "Shredder Strikes Back" my Favorite to Least favorite chart was this:
(Remember the Closer to the top, the better!)

-Mirage
-Archie
>
>
>
-New Cartoon
>
>
-First TMNT movie
>
-Old Cartoon seasons 1,2 and 8
>
>
-Old Cartoon Seasons 3-7
-Action Figures
>
>
>
-TMNT Movie 2: Secret of the Ooze
>
>
>
>
>
-Image
-TMNT Movie 3
>
>
-Next Mutation
>
>
-Old Cartoon seasons 9 and 10
-Jim Lee action figures

Now it reads like this:
(Remember the Closer to the top, the better!)

-Mirage
-New Cartoon
-Archie
>
>
>
>
-First TMNT Movie
>
>
-Old Cartoon seasons 1,2 and 8
>
>
-Old Cartoon Seasons 3-7
-Action figures
>
>
>
-TMNT Movie 2: Secret of the Ooze
>
>
>
>
>
-Image
-TMNT Movie 3
>
>
-Next Mutation
>
>
-Old Cartoon seasons 9 and 10
-Jim Lee action figures

Has anybody else had to change their personal Chart as a result of this episode?

BTW If the New Cartoon had all red masks and replaced that crappy theme-song with the Fox-Box promotional Song, It'd beat Mirage!!!

**Kali** · 06-08-2003, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by grunger_kittie

Welll..... there was an A's game or something on here instead of TMNT when I tried to watch it... straight up ruined my day. I wish AT&T Would hurry up and install DSL lines in my area so I can go back to downloading the eps again.

*sigh* Come on, there has to be at least ONE other person in CA who managed to see the episode on Saturday. I can't be the only one.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 06-08-2003, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow

I'm not totally framilar with the original comics...so I kept thinking..."shouldn't it be Raph and not Leo?"

Nope, In the original comics, It was Leo!

Psycrow · 06-08-2003, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kali

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunger_kittie

Welll..... there was an A's game or something on here instead of TMNT when I tried to watch it... straight up ruined my day. I wish AT&T Would hurry up and install DSL lines in my area so I can go back to downloading the eps again.

*sigh* Come on, there has to be at least ONE other person in CA who managed to see the episode on Saturday. I can't be the only one.

I live in Vancouver BC, (same time zone), and I caught it after the baseball game...

Shadow · 06-09-2003, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TetsuDeinonychus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow

I'm not totally framilar with the original comics...so I kept thinking..."shouldn't it be Raph and not Leo?"

Nope, In the original comics, It was Leo!

well i know that now!!! ;o)

Keno · 06-09-2003, 07:18 AM

was Leo wearing his sword strap thing when he fell through the window?
the Foot could've ripped it off during the fight?

PanMan · 06-09-2003, 08:57 AM

mark my words . . . that leo thing is a colour mistake. it makes sense since the sais and his mask are blue. where would they get blue sais from anyways? and if the detail is so great in this ep, then why doesn't "leo" have bruises in that pic? i don't think the turtles can heal as fast as wolverine . . . correct me if i'm wrong. and i never saw leo and raph with sais in the same shot. what happened was the three TMNT (minus leo), casey, splinter all attacked the foot side by side. they then show a sai stopping a sword and then they show "leo" go flying back, and at the same time that is happening don and mike retreat. it is obvious to me that it is a colour mistake. it is so obvious that any argument against it doesn't make sense.

and i also noticed the clock changing time (the first time i watched it too).

and the funniest part of the entire ep . . .

Mikey: "ha ha ha . . . i was sleeping on my hand and it got numb and fell on my face and i thought someone slapped me"

*Jephael* · 06-09-2003, 09:24 AM

That was pretty funny, especially when Raph just looked at him like "This guy can't possibly be a blood relative."

JoshBYawn · 06-09-2003, 11:50 AM

It is sooooo Leo.

CoolWhip · 06-09-2003, 12:01 PM

Damn Fox Sports that interupt TMNT!! DAMN THEM!!!

Thank god for repeats!!

*Jephael* · 06-09-2003, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBYawn

Anyone else notice that in the preview for next week's episode, Leo has BLUE SAIS? Obviously he has them because his swords were broken, but, I can't wait to see how they explain it all.

I can tell that's Raph because of the skin tone. Leo's skin is a brighter shade of green than Raph's.

06-08-2003, 03:35 PM	#121
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I take that back, it's right after where Shredder takes Don's staff when you see April and Leo in the corner. __________________

06-08-2003, 04:42 PM	#122
Caliosidhe Thug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 95	I though when I saw that that Heck, since they're wrapped in blue, maybe they are Leo's? I'm sure they all know how to fight with each others weapons, they just have their preferences. If it was a coloring error it'd have to be a MASSIVE one, since it would be more then just a bandana changing color. All the turtles are different colors __________________ I'm being punished, aren't I?

06-08-2003, 05:13 PM	#124
Aztec General Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,437	Stop me if I'm being redundant but Shredder Strikes Back Part One was AMAZING! Wow, I've watched it 3 times since Saturday and I still can't get over what a great job they did. I love this series. __________________

06-08-2003, 08:10 PM	#130
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Y'know there wouldn't be any animation mistakes about mask-color if they all wore red! Just a thought! Anyway, as of this episode, the new TMNT cartoon is now my second favorite version of TMNT dethroning Archie. To illustrate, before "Shredder Strikes Back" my Favorite to Least favorite chart was this: (Remember the Closer to the top, the better!) -Mirage -Archie > > > -New Cartoon > > -First TMNT movie > -Old Cartoon seasons 1,2 and 8 > > -Old Cartoon Seasons 3-7 -Action Figures > > > -TMNT Movie 2: Secret of the Ooze > > > > > -Image -TMNT Movie 3 > > -Next Mutation > > -Old Cartoon seasons 9 and 10 -Jim Lee action figures Now it reads like this: (Remember the Closer to the top, the better!) -Mirage -New Cartoon -Archie > > > > -First TMNT Movie > > -Old Cartoon seasons 1,2 and 8 > > -Old Cartoon Seasons 3-7 -Action figures > > > -TMNT Movie 2: Secret of the Ooze > > > > > -Image -TMNT Movie 3 > > -Next Mutation > > -Old Cartoon seasons 9 and 10 -Jim Lee action figures Has anybody else had to change their personal Chart as a result of this episode? BTW If the New Cartoon had all red masks and replaced that crappy theme-song with the Fox-Box promotional Song, It'd beat Mirage!!! __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

06-09-2003, 07:18 AM	#135
Keno Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 244	was Leo wearing his sword strap thing when he fell through the window? the Foot could've ripped it off during the fight? __________________ When you're in trouble don't give in and go sour try and rely on YOUR turtle power!!

06-08-2003, 05:39 PM	#125
Karpo_007 Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Finland Posts: 8,798	As do we all.

06-08-2003, 06:19 PM	#127
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Welll..... there was an A's game or something on here instead of TMNT when I tried to watch it... straight up ruined my day. I wish AT&T Would hurry up and install DSL lines in my area so I can go back to downloading the eps again.

06-08-2003, 07:31 PM	#128
Vroomkid Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 172	Guys, perhaps we should just wait it out till next week to see if there's some clever ploy explaining this miscoloured bandana / weapon situation? As for no errors in this series...hehe, I think I spot one in this ep. Hate to say this, although Shredder Strikes Back is good, it ain't perfect. Look at the scene right after Leo's defeated by the Foot Elite. It cuts to a clock ticking in April's apartment and the time is around 8:36. Next thing you know when it cuts to a wide shot of the 3 Turtles and the clock in the background, the clock's back to 8:00.....now any one up to the challenge of defending this animation mistake?

06-08-2003, 07:53 PM	#129
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	okay okay. I have 222 posts to look through...since my computer was not hooked up for like five days!!! About this episode. OH MY GOD!!! Def. one of the best out there. My new fave. Here is why: animation was killer....so much drama was brough out just in the transitions to wide screen...and close ups. nice. score: um...so when did cartoons get such a freaking awesome score? I want a cd. I was dancing one minute while i watched. I LOVE IT Writing. wonderful use of juxtaposition. Mikey's burp is a prime example of that. So much comedy, and so much drama.....loved it. it did have that TMNT 2 feel to it. I liked that.... I'm not totally framilar with the origional comics...so I kept thinking..."shouldn't it be Raph and not Leo?" But I stopped thinking that when he turned the mask. I think I was actually giddy at that point. I give this eppisode 10 mangos.

06-09-2003, 08:57 AM	#136
PanMan Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 728	mark my words . . . that leo thing is a colour mistake. it makes sense since the sais and his mask are blue. where would they get blue sais from anyways? and if the detail is so great in this ep, then why doesn't "leo" have bruises in that pic? i don't think the turtles can heal as fast as wolverine . . . correct me if i'm wrong. and i never saw leo and raph with sais in the same shot. what happened was the three TMNT (minus leo), casey, splinter all attacked the foot side by side. they then show a sai stopping a sword and then they show "leo" go flying back, and at the same time that is happening don and mike retreat. it is obvious to me that it is a colour mistake. it is so obvious that any argument against it doesn't make sense. and i also noticed the clock changing time (the first time i watched it too). and the funniest part of the entire ep . . . Mikey: "ha ha ha . . . i was sleeping on my hand and it got numb and fell on my face and i thought someone slapped me" __________________ My name is Pan . . . and I am the Man! [February 19, 2005] I believe that The Shredder will appear in the New Cartoon past Season 3

06-09-2003, 09:24 AM	#137
Jephael That whack job behind you Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Carlisle, Pennsylvania Posts: 8,143	That was pretty funny, especially when Raph just looked at him like "This guy can't possibly be a blood relative." __________________ "I like it. Simple, but effective!" Raphael; The Mean Machines - 1988

06-09-2003, 11:50 AM	#138
JoshBYawn Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 293	It is sooooo Leo.

06-09-2003, 12:01 PM	#139
CoolWhip Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 151	Damn Fox Sports that interupt TMNT!! DAMN THEM!!! Thank god for repeats!! __________________ Shredder = Utrom. AWESOME!!