Official Ep Discussion: S3 Ep12-13: "Battle for New York"

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Orochi

To be honest, I only realised it was there a few days back and assumed Akira was his name, it was only until I saw those posts I realised it was completely false. Now I know you're an admin there, I can at least PM you if I see any vandalism. I'd make an account myself, but I always worry I'll break the coding somehow on wikia by changing something.

Okay that's good. Sorry for blowing up a bit. I get smacked in the face with it everywhere I go around here and it's starting to irritate me.

I appreciate the offer to help.

[Orochi]

No problem man, when something's your hobby and someone trashes it, it grates. Me saying everything on there was bullcrap was totally uncalled for, I just meant that I dislike that sometimes you can't always trust stuff you see on there because random users will just vandalise it. I'm glad that Hun's "real" name has been removed though. Given that I was totally mislead by it at first.

[CyberCubed]

LOL, someone actually edited Hun's wiki profile to say his real name was Akira?

I'm flattered someone took my idea.

[Ninjinister]

Re: Kurtzman's lady-friend.

Everyone seems to feel like he just likes to get freaky with the mutants, but what if she was his human girlfriend/wife and got mutated?

She's likely just a one-and-done "oops wrong slide" gag, but y'know... "what if"

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Orochi

See, I was never actually exposed to OT Irma, being that I was born way after turtlemania's first go. I sorta got into them via comics so this is my first exposure to Irma even though I'm aware she was hated during the original cartoon, but when I saw her in the Nick show, I loved her character, she was snarky, fun, sarcastic and adorable. I can totally accept she's probably just a robot and was never a real person, but i still have that little glimmer of hope she might have been a human at some point who was kidnapped and replicated. I'd like to think I'm not one of those psychotic fans of her, though. Given that I can completely accept she probably won't return, as much as I'd love her to.

Well Irma (alongside the rest of the Channel 6 crew) don't seem to be characters that remembered with as much fondness as the other main characters. Maybe it's because they distract from the plot of the episodes, maybe it's because they seem a bit out of place or maybe it's because they are thought of as annoying. Regardless, they're not as popular as the heroes or the villains.

Hehe, come to think of it, they're in countless episodes yet they seem less fondly remembered than characters like Mondo Gecko who were barely in the show at all.

[matteso586]

Saw the episode last night, and I'm surprised that there isn't a flashback showing how Subprime and Leatherhead survived their respective battles in The Invasion. Found it entertaining that the former plays as the special's main villain.

Ironic that through a failed experiment, the Kraang are responsible for Rockwell's restoration of his sense of humanity and superior intellect. And because he was voiced by Frank Welker in Monkey Brains, I expected him to sound like Fred Jones.

Nice jab from Raph to point out that Pigeon Pete is the "weakest mutant" ever. And Mikey is on a roll, from a faster way to make Retromutagen to Savage Mikey.

[Bitsy83]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Re: Kurtzman's lady-friend.

Everyone seems to feel like he just likes to get freaky with the mutants, but what if she was his human girlfriend/wife and got mutated?

She's likely just a one-and-done "oops wrong slide" gag, but y'know... "what if"

If they do refer to that again, I seriously hope it was Kurtzman's wife who got mutated. That would give him such a connection to the Kraang instead of just some conspiracy weirdo.

[shredder orokusaki]

The kraang has not been defeated the turtles only teleported them back to dimension x but they can come to earth at any time they want again. I didnt like that there was no Kraang prime i was expecting that there will be a big battle between kraang prime and turtles at the end. If this was the end of the kraang then they would have killed kraang prime. But at least now they can foucs more on me until the kraang returns.

[TigerClaw]

Personally, I liked Kraang Sub Prime more then Kraang Prime, Like many have said around here, He acted a little more like old school Krang.

[aliena]

I loved these episodes. I found them online commercial free and enjoyed them thoroughly. So much to mention..

I loved how Leo was a bit miffed at Mikey taking over in Dimension X. Savage Mikey rocked. I just adore Mikey when he's in charge.

Was Kirby acting a bit weird or did I imagine that?

It was so cool to see the Mutanimals working together. Slash is amazing.

I found it humorous how Raph reacted to seeing the lizard woman. I mulled her over for a while and I'm wondering if she was just a joke or if she will somehow come into play at some point. On the flip side. Mikey's expression was one of confusion, which still makes me wonder if he's ready to find a girl attractive.

Did the blimp survive? Maybe I missed what happened to it by the end.

Leo's excitement at transporting like Space Heroes was very cute.

[aliena]

Originally Posted by Bitsy83

Whew. Just went through two hours of TMNT. I rewatched "Serpent Hunt" to refresh my memory and then watched "Pig and Rhino" on iTunes (guess I didn't need to set up the DVR after all. I get embarrassed watching that with my parents around), then went to Nick.com.

Man....there's just too much to talk about. Awesome seeing Slash back and finally a good guy again. Sup-Prime is the ONLY Kraang who actually took advantage of the English language. Mikey being savagely awesome.

AAAAAAND, for all you whiners, New York was saved and the Kraang was stopped WITHOUT the help of April. I thought they were going to use her powers, too, but they didn't. Kinda nice to see the mutants take out the Kraang, though I am worried the EPF are going to show and try to hunt the Turtles and Mut-animals.

Now....let's talk about this little tidbit, shall we?

https://41.media.tumblr.com/54e95ecc...h8v2o1_540.jpg

.....headcannon. This is either going to be Mona Lisa OR this is Mona Lisa's MOTHER. Allow me to explain: This woman (for confusion sake, let's call her "Mona") was the missing scientist that Kurtzman was sent to investigate. She was a prisoner of the Kraang, but he saves her while she's still human. Kurtzman uncovers the Kraang plot through her and together, they form a secret team to fight them. They eventually get married and she's pregnant when the Kraang kidnap her again. Mona becomes a lizard lady, but escapes and rejoins Kurtzman. Then she gives birth to Mona Lisa; they knew it wasn't safe for them to stay in New York, so Kurtzman organizes a hidden spot for his family to stay until Mona Lisa is old enough to rejoin her father.

Yeeeeeeah....my brain does that sometimes. Though, I can't help but think that THIS is like the Venus "cameo." The writers knew some people want Mona Lisa to come back, so this is a shoutout to the fans saying "Ok, you wanted a lizard lady. Here she is! Happy? Good, back to the show."

All and all, this was a lot of fun, though once again none of my predictions came true. (Sorry Victory. No pizza/ice cream party yet). It sort of did with Bebop and Rocksteady discovering the retromutagen and capturing Donnie, but not in the way that I was thinking. We're still waiting to find out if Shredder will discover about this now that Karai is in his possession again. Though it might changes since MIKEY is the one who made it. Then again, maybe Donnie will take the fall for him to protect him and.....yeah, my fan part of my brain is going a mile a minute, so I need to stop and rethink some stuff.

I love your theory on the gill woman. I would love to see her as a character or to learn that her daughter is Mona Lisa. She's too cool looking to not get to know more about her.

[Vicky82]

Slash was awesome and he really cared about his team mates

I think Kirby was just confused, as he was mutated (again) for months.

The Blimp was destroyed and it was left in Dimension X. I hope Donnie makes another one.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Ninjinister

Re: Kurtzman's lady-friend.

Everyone seems to feel like he just likes to get freaky with the mutants, but what if she was his human girlfriend/wife and got mutated?

She's likely just a one-and-done "oops wrong slide" gag, but y'know... "what if"

The man is in to what what he is in to, it would be a double standard to judge him for that short moment and still think Donnie's creepy stalker **** is OK.

[CowabungaMikey]

This was a fantastic episode! ''Here's Krangy!'' Haha. Great return of awesome characters and Mikey in the lead

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by neatoman

The man is in to what what he is in to, it would be a double standard to judge him for that short moment and still think Donnie's creepy stalker **** is OK.

Given that Kurtzman has seen a lot of things in his life, To him, its just the norm.

Perhaps that lizard woman he brought in, Was one of the victims, from the mutation after all those canisters fell from the sky during Season 2, Which I'm surprise that haven't fully addressed, There are still plenty of canisters unaccounted for.

Which of course will lead us to Mondo Gecko at some point.

[MaximeLoonatic]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Well Irma (alongside the rest of the Channel 6 crew) don't seem to be characters that remembered with as much fondness as the other main characters. Maybe it's because they distract from the plot of the episodes, maybe it's because they seem a bit out of place or maybe it's because they are thought of as annoying. Regardless, they're not as popular as the heroes or the villains.

Hehe, come to think of it, they're in countless episodes yet they seem less fondly remembered than characters like Mondo Gecko who were barely in the show at all.

But Irma did show that she was part of the team as a supportive fun relief girl. She was like the Velma of the team.

[RandomtasticFantasy]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Personally, I liked Kraang Sub Prime more then Kraang Prime, Like many have said around here, He acted a little more like old school Krang.

This, so much. I admit, I am not a huge fan of the Krang or most of the episodes centered around them, but Kraang Sub Prime was one of the first times I actually enjoyed watching them. I really hope he isn't dead and makes a comeback at some point.

As for the episode as a whole itself, not bad. The mutanimals were enjoyable as I love Slash and Leatherface (and watching Mikey and Leatherface interact, as Mikey is adorable) The story as a whole didn't really grab me at first, but I slowly got into it because of the execution: lots of humor, right amount of drama, tons of action, and sexy out-of-nowhere lizard chick.

I still didn't like it as much as TR&TP, but for a Krang-centric episode, it was pretty awesome.

[Garfield]

When Ms. Campbell cracked the whip, I got a little hot.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Garfield

When Ms. Campbell cracked the whip, I got a little hot.

She's a robot.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by neatoman

The man is in to what what he is in to, it would be a double standard to judge him for that short moment and still think Donnie's creepy stalker **** is OK.

I'm not judging anyone for anything at all (and like still, it's fiction, who gives a crap?)

I'm saying "what if this one-shot gag has a sweet or tragic backstory, instead of just "Jack likes lizard girls?"