Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

If you’re tattling on people for popping off online and getting them fired… you’re a bitch, a snitch and an absolute loser. Get a life.

I have to admit I am with this current wave of snitching. Celebrating deaths with gleeful grins and cackles in this kind of case should be stamped down in the most forceful manner possible. The alternative is... significantly more "mean." This cannot be allowed to prosper.

This isn't "once I slapped a chick on the butt and now I lost my TV job when a video went viral from 1995" this is... life and death. Of a guy who did nothing wrong. Didn't do any "hate speech," only speech that certain people hated.

[ToTheNines]

You’re drinking the kook aid brother. Very short sighted too. What the next step of that? Someone loses their career for libbing out too hard on twitter, then what?

Realistically, they’ll find another job and land on their feet. But now they’re even more bitter towards the other side. Nothing good will come out of this. Just more databases and free speech restrictions.

[Nickokapo]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

So, he's a Furry? LOL.... you people. seriously. that is NOT better!
keep on trying to dig yourself in deeper. As a wise rat once said, your own evil, will be your own undoing.

It is hated because of a rampancy of pedophiles and zoosadists (like GlitchedPuppet).
Now, a murderer too.

It is bad...

Not to trivialize something that is more serious than an internet thing, but i believe he was "memelord" rather than "furry" (But maybe both...i don't know...)

[Mayhem]

Turns out those in charge weren't particularly enamoured with Kirk either...

"...three years prior to the shooting, Kirk had attacked Spencer Cox on social media when discussing transgender involvement in sports and called for Cox's expulsion from the Republican Party."

The fact he has also called for both sides to stop attacking each other and find some common ground has another meaning now.

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

If you’re tattling on people for popping off online and getting them fired… you’re a bitch, a snitch and an absolute loser. Get a life.

There's a couple of people right now on X taking great delight in compiling a huge "database" of people who supposedly have diminished Kirk in their posts about his death in attempt for others to then get them fired from their jobs for such comments.

It just sounds like the Stasi to me here...

[ToTheNines]

It’s straight out of the “woke-ism” playbook. Total bitch move. McCarthyism.

[TMNT is cooler than MOTU]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I would also like to add:

If you’re dabbing on Kirk/the right for this, you’re kind of a crappy person. He’s a public figure and not someone you know, so whatever. But cheering on a violent public execution is not good for your soul.

If you’re tattling on people for popping off online and getting them fired… you’re a bitch, a snitch and an absolute loser. Get a life.

100% this. Folks need to get their own lives in order before they worry about what others say and do.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I have to admit I am with this current wave of snitching. Celebrating deaths with gleeful grins and cackles in this kind of case should be stamped down in the most forceful manner possible. The alternative is... significantly more "mean." This cannot be allowed to prosper.

This isn't "once I slapped a chick on the butt and now I lost my TV job when a video went viral from 1995" this is... life and death. Of a guy who did nothing wrong. Didn't do any "hate speech," only speech that certain people hated.

We tried to play nice, and now they are killing us.

It's time to identify them, and get them the **** out of places where they can indoctrinate more people.

the list is neccesary.

[Barkworm]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

It just sounds like the Stasi to me here...

Eh, I don't know. The reasoning of the right-wingers is f*cked up as usual (mainly because it's so hypocritical ) but overall, people still feel way too anonymous on the internet so there needs to be some sort of consequence when people pour their verbal diarrhea into the world and celebrating people's deaths is nothing short of hate speech.

Of course, it's slightly ironic when the 'freedom of speech' crowd calls for this kind of measures.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

but overall, people still feel way too anonymous on the internet so there needs to be some sort of consequence when people pour their verbal diarrhea into the world and celebrating people's deaths is nothing short of hate speech.

Strongly disagree. I wish something could be done about all the bots, but as far as humans go, who cares if people want to be idiots on line?

Let sites/platforms police their own content.

Of course, it's slightly ironic when the 'freedom of speech' crowd calls for this kind of measures.

I agree, very ironic. Also hilarious as well as pathetic.

[KaraiLover09]

What surprises me is that the companies are actually firing them over mocking someone on the right. Usually these companies are very left-leaning and turn a blind eye on that. Like that one time a pilot got fired because some karen complained that he had a 'Let's Go Brandon' sticker on his luggage. I'm sure if it say 'Die, Trump, Die', he'd still have a job.

Like previously stated, I don't recall hearing about people getting fired over mocking George Floyd or any other figure the left embraces. I'm sure people at the very least for the side-eye at work for siding with Rittenhouse openly.

[ToTheNines]

Yeah that’s a good point. Kinda strange.

I saw a journalist (not someone I’m familiar with) say they were fired from a progressive publication for his comments.

[KaraiLover09]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Yeah that’s a good point. Kinda strange.

I saw a journalist (not someone I’m familiar with) say they were fired from a progressive publication for his comments.

With how the left tries to enforce that their way is the only correct way to think, I'm surprised these guys aren't getting a raise or a promotion instead of getting fired over mocking Charlie Kirk.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Strongly disagree. I wish something could be done about all the bots, but as far as humans go, who cares if people want to be idiots on line?

Let sites/platforms police their own content.



I agree, very ironic. Also hilarious as well as pathetic.

freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.

AOC and Gavin Newsom will have you on their list. Enjoy!

[Andrew NDB]

"I'm a republican" <---- that right there, just saying that in recent years, gets you fired in short order from a ton of white collar jobs. They can't say THAT'S the reason they fired you, of course, but from that moment on they will find a reason to terminate you when one presents itself in ways they wouldn't with others.

So I don't want to hear about it. If not publicly celebrating someone's death that didn't do anything wrong is just too much to ask or a bridge too far in some way, idk. Probably seek help.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Barkworm

celebrating people's deaths is nothing short of hate speech.

Issue is, many are interpretating a complete ambivelence or not caring about Kirk's passing from people in a similar vein to those who have actually posted "I'm glad he'd dead" type comments. Like, you're going on the list because you're not mourning our podcast deity! You must not care! Just like how no one on the right gave a toss when the two Minnesota reps were killed.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.

True, but here the companies aren't exactly doing it off their own bat and monitoring their employees, snitches get stitches etc.

[Daytona]

It’s not really cancel culture if you’re a medical professional who claims fellow Americans should die for their political opinion.

I saw some woman who works with suicide prevention was fired. If Kirk had called, would she tell him to off himself - how’s that work?

And teachers celebrating murder?

Even on the less imperative end - those office deport workers refused to do their job, so should they keep it?

Many of these people don’t seem qualified for their jobs.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.

Guess Kirk found that out.

He also became one of the statistics among the amount of gun deaths per year that he thought were okay for the sake of the second amendment.



Been too busy to bother to care much about this or that an asshat like him is gone. No, the man did not deserve to die for his BS and that's terrible for the kids who are too young to even understand, but he also does not deserve the pedestal that some are trying to put him on.

He's one of those who ran his mouth, liked the attention of it, and espoused views that, were he to have the kind of America he'd prefer it was, would take away a lot of people's freedom and rights, so I'm hardly surprised that he'd eventually draw the ire of nuts who think gunning down someone is okay.

It's funny that people are trying to white knight him, claiming that people are taking things he'd said out of context. Sorry, but racist and misogynistic garbage, among other things, that came out of his mouth are pretty direct topics and near impossible to be out of context.

Pretty ironic that people like Kirk and many of those who are fans of people like him were completely besides themselves that they were asked to wear a simple mask during a pandemic, like a temporary mask thing is oppressing them... but actually expect that people of the demographics on the receiving end of Kirk's bigotry should think his BS was just fine and are now the bad guys if not pretending he's some "great loss" to America.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

Guess Kirk found that out.

He also became one of the statistics among the amount of gun deaths per year that he thought were okay for the sake of the second amendment.



Been too busy to bother to care much about this or that an asshat like him is gone. No, the man did not deserve to die for his BS and that's terrible for the kids who are too young to even understand, but he also does not deserve the pedestal that some are trying to put him on.

He's one of those who ran his mouth, liked the attention of it, and espoused views that, were he to have the kind of America he'd prefer it was, would take away a lot of people's freedom and rights, so I'm hardly surprised that he'd eventually draw the ire of nuts who think gunning down someone is okay.

It's funny that people are trying to white knight him, claiming that people are taking things he'd said out of context. Sorry, but racist and misogynistic garbage, among other things, that came out of his mouth are pretty direct topics and near impossible to be out of context.

Pretty ironic that people like Kirk and many of those who are fans of people like him were completely besides themselves that they were asked to wear a simple mask during a pandemic, like a temporary mask thing is oppressing them... but actually expect that people of the demographics on the receiving end of Kirk's bigotry should think his BS was just fine and are now the bad guys if not pretending he's some "great loss" to America.

he spoke truth and common sense. don't like it? start your own planet.

[Mayhem]

Indeed the “**** your feelings” group has suddenly got all precious about your feelings.