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**Machias Banshee** · 04-30-2002, 08:52 AM

hehehe, just messin' with ya...

*Kameko* · 04-30-2002, 10:27 AM

Suuuuuuuuuuuuure you were...

**Machias Banshee** · 04-30-2002, 08:04 PM

Hey, Mike and me go a loooonnnnggg way back. We like to joke around like that just to rile the guys up.

*Kameko* · 05-01-2002, 07:48 AM

Riiiiiiiight...

Actually, I think it's funny. I love seeing Raph get jealous over nothing -- as long as I'm out of striking distance, anyway...

**Machias Banshee** · 05-01-2002, 09:15 AM

Yeah, i'd love to do something like that too, but i value my livelihood...

*Kameko* · 05-01-2002, 10:43 AM

He has left some pretty big bruises...

**Kali** · 05-01-2002, 10:57 AM

*raises an eyebrow at Machias* As I remember, you did manage to whip Raph up into a jealous rage in ATFT. Actually Mike did with his stupid prank. *thinks* Actually, the second time was my fault. Leo ain't too fun when he's jealous either.

*Kameko* · 05-01-2002, 11:37 AM

Yeah, tell me about it. Leo's usually pretty mild mannered *has sudden thought of Leo in a suit and big black glasses a-la-Clark Kent

* but when he gets mad, he gets REALLY mad.

**Kali** · 05-01-2002, 11:50 AM

Yeah, tell me about it. I've experienced that first hand. Come to think about it, so had Machias. Man, Leo loses his temper more than Raph does in our RP.

**Machias Banshee** · 05-01-2002, 01:17 PM

NO kidding...

*rubs sore cheek*

I dont think I've ever seen Leo get into so much trouble before. And as for Raph, he plays dirty, like when he stole my bathing suit.....

*plots evil things to do to Raph*

*Kameko* · 05-03-2002, 07:59 AM

stole your bathing suit?

Pain in the shell, isn't he?

Hmph. Would you listen to me? the way I talk, you'd think I WAS a turtle, instead o' just living with them. *sigh*

*heretic888* · 10-10-2002, 01:33 PM

"The ninja/kunoichi thing has confused many people. Kunoichi aren't simply female ninja, it's a whole separate martial art form similar to ninjutsu. As much as we'd love to say men and women are equal, they aren't. Women are built, move, and think differently from men, and therefore fight differently. Women can practice ninjutsu, but kunoichi-jutsu takes advantage of feminine strengths. "

Im sorry, but i actually DO know about ninja, ninpo, and ninjutsu.... and this post i quoted is big load of poppycock. You will very easily notice that ninpo taijutsu utilized natural relanxed body movement without an emphasis on muscular strength or prowess. A kunoichi would study almost identical martial arts as a male ninja operative.

*Kameko* · 10-10-2002, 01:37 PM

Ummm... is there a particular reason you're dredging up long-forgotten threads so you can correct us?

*heretic888* · 10-10-2002, 01:38 PM

cuz im a ninja.

seriously, i just dont want 'false info' being filtered around. i take my art very seriously.

*Kameko* · 10-10-2002, 01:39 PM

Okay, but we hardly ever use those terms anyway, so it's really not that big of a deal. At least, I don't ever use them. But thanks for the info!

*heretic888* · 10-10-2002, 01:40 PM

no problem.

NINPO IKKAN!!!

**Kali** · 10-11-2002, 08:01 AM

Jerk.

Look, I study ninjutsu too, and I do have my facts together. Maybe in your style they teach men and women the same way, but I don't personally agree with that idea. Yes, the martial arts aspects of ninjutsu were similar for men and women, but traditionally, women were trained to be spies, to appear innocent and weak, then use that to their advantage. They were psychological fighters more than physical, and even had weapons especially made for their use.

I'm not saying that the styles were vastly different, just that there were specific elements unique to each. And today, in our "equality based" society, men and woman are trained the same way, for better or worse.

*heretic888* · 04-15-2003, 04:47 PM

Oh, I didn't notice this before.

Kali, which 'style' of ninjutsu do you study?? Bujinkan?? Genbukan?? Jinenkan??

And, traditionally, the only difference in how men and women were taught would be in emphasis not in content. They would still learn largely the same weaponry and kata and waza. And the same combat principles would be emphasized.

It is not correct to call what the women studied 'kunoichijutsu' as it was not actually a separate art. The kunoichi simply took the aspects of ninjutsu that were more important to their line of work and focused on them.

Ninpo Ikkan.

**Kali** · 04-15-2003, 05:39 PM

You realize that you just resurrected this thread just to get an answer of "I don't know", don't you?

Honestly, there is no style I study. "Jane of all trades, master of none". At the moment I see the martial arts through the eyes of a writer, an artist, not a practitioner. All I understand is that I don't understand everything about ninjutsu and related subjects, as you've so wonderfully pointed out on multiple occasions. What I do know is... unexplainable in this context, it would be like trying to describe an emotion. I deal in essence, not detail.

When I started learning about ninjutsu, I didn't have the time or resources to do much else with it. And now that I do, I've got medical problems to deal with. But honestly, and don't take this the wrong way, you aren't exactly inspiring me to take up the art.

*Tetsu Deinonychus* · 04-15-2003, 05:52 PM

Awww. You have Medical problems? That's so sad.
PM me if you need someone to talk to. Same goes for anyone who needs someone to talk to.
Though I guess everyone here but me has actual friends.

10-10-2002, 01:33 PM	#152
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	what?! "The ninja/kunoichi thing has confused many people. Kunoichi aren't simply female ninja, it's a whole separate martial art form similar to ninjutsu. As much as we'd love to say men and women are equal, they aren't. Women are built, move, and think differently from men, and therefore fight differently. Women can practice ninjutsu, but kunoichi-jutsu takes advantage of feminine strengths. " Im sorry, but i actually DO know about ninja, ninpo, and ninjutsu.... and this post i quoted is big load of poppycock. You will very easily notice that ninpo taijutsu utilized natural relanxed body movement without an emphasis on muscular strength or prowess. A kunoichi would study almost identical martial arts as a male ninja operative. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-10-2002, 01:38 PM	#154
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	ummm... cuz im a ninja cuz im a ninja. seriously, i just dont want 'false info' being filtered around. i take my art very seriously. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-10-2002, 01:40 PM	#156
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hee no problem. NINPO IKKAN!!! __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

04-15-2003, 04:47 PM	#158
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	Oh, I didn't notice this before. Kali, which 'style' of ninjutsu do you study?? Bujinkan?? Genbukan?? Jinenkan?? And, traditionally, the only difference in how men and women were taught would be in emphasis not in content. They would still learn largely the same weaponry and kata and waza. And the same combat principles would be emphasized. It is not correct to call what the women studied 'kunoichijutsu' as it was not actually a separate art. The kunoichi simply took the aspects of ninjutsu that were more important to their line of work and focused on them. Ninpo Ikkan. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

04-15-2003, 05:52 PM	#160
Tetsu Deinonychus The Iron Dinosaur Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Studio Snowlion HQ Posts: 3,021	Awww. You have Medical problems? That's so sad. PM me if you need someone to talk to. Same goes for anyone who needs someone to talk to. Though I guess everyone here but me has actual friends. __________________ (Image hosting by Postimage.org) And here's a list of all my old wacky threads!

04-30-2002, 08:52 AM	#141
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	hehehe, just messin' with ya...

04-30-2002, 10:27 AM	#142
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Suuuuuuuuuuuuure you were...

04-30-2002, 08:04 PM	#143
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Hey, Mike and me go a loooonnnnggg way back. We like to joke around like that just to rile the guys up.

05-01-2002, 07:48 AM	#144
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Riiiiiiiight... Actually, I think it's funny. I love seeing Raph get jealous over nothing -- as long as I'm out of striking distance, anyway...

05-01-2002, 09:15 AM	#145
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Yeah, i'd love to do something like that too, but i value my livelihood...

05-01-2002, 10:43 AM	#146
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	He has left some pretty big bruises...

05-01-2002, 10:57 AM	#147
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	raises an eyebrow at Machias As I remember, you did manage to whip Raph up into a jealous rage in ATFT. Actually Mike did with his stupid prank. thinks Actually, the second time was my fault. Leo ain't too fun when he's jealous either.

05-01-2002, 11:37 AM	#148
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Yeah, tell me about it. Leo's usually pretty mild mannered has sudden thought of Leo in a suit and big black glasses a-la-Clark Kent but when he gets mad, he gets REALLY mad.

05-01-2002, 11:50 AM	#149
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Yeah, tell me about it. I've experienced that first hand. Come to think about it, so had Machias. Man, Leo loses his temper more than Raph does in our RP.

05-01-2002, 01:17 PM	#150
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	NO kidding... rubs sore cheek I dont think I've ever seen Leo get into so much trouble before. And as for Raph, he plays dirty, like when he stole my bathing suit..... plots evil things to do to Raph

05-03-2002, 07:59 AM	#151
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	stole your bathing suit? Pain in the shell, isn't he? Hmph. Would you listen to me? the way I talk, you'd think I WAS a turtle, instead o' just living with them. sigh

10-10-2002, 01:37 PM	#153
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Ummm... is there a particular reason you're dredging up long-forgotten threads so you can correct us?

10-10-2002, 01:39 PM	#155
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Okay, but we hardly ever use those terms anyway, so it's really not that big of a deal. At least, I don't ever use them. But thanks for the info!

10-11-2002, 08:01 AM	#157
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	Jerk. Look, I study ninjutsu too, and I do have my facts together. Maybe in your style they teach men and women the same way, but I don't personally agree with that idea. Yes, the martial arts aspects of ninjutsu were similar for men and women, but traditionally, women were trained to be spies, to appear innocent and weak, then use that to their advantage. They were psychological fighters more than physical, and even had weapons especially made for their use. I'm not saying that the styles were vastly different, just that there were specific elements unique to each. And today, in our "equality based" society, men and woman are trained the same way, for better or worse.

04-15-2003, 05:39 PM	#159
Kali Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California! Posts: 11,101	You realize that you just resurrected this thread just to get an answer of "I don't know", don't you? Honestly, there is no style I study. "Jane of all trades, master of none". At the moment I see the martial arts through the eyes of a writer, an artist, not a practitioner. All I understand is that I don't understand everything about ninjutsu and related subjects, as you've so wonderfully pointed out on multiple occasions. What I do know is... unexplainable in this context, it would be like trying to describe an emotion. I deal in essence, not detail. When I started learning about ninjutsu, I didn't have the time or resources to do much else with it. And now that I do, I've got medical problems to deal with. But honestly, and don't take this the wrong way, you aren't exactly inspiring me to take up the art.