Charlie Kirk, Turning Point USA founder, dead at 31 after Utah campus shooting - Page 8

KaraiLover09 · 09-15-2025, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

he spoke truth and common sense. don't like it? start your own planet.

So it's common sense for a woman that is raped to be blamed for it and be forced to carry to term? Even when Kirk said that about his own daughter?

*ToTheNines* · 09-15-2025, 06:14 PM

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/b...-charlie-kirk/

*Andrew NDB* · 09-15-2025, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KaraiLover09

So it's common sense for a woman that is raped to be blamed for it and be forced to carry to term? Even when Kirk said that about his own daughter?

See, I don't agree with that sentiment at all (like at ALL), and I think if he had actually been confronted with that scenario in real life he might have ended up feeling different. But the thing is it was coming from a good place. He valued life above all else. Even the life of a rapist's baby. You can disagree with that sentiment, I know I do, but I don't see how you can vilify him over it.

*ToTheNines* · 09-15-2025, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

See, I don't agree with that sentiment at all (like at ALL), and I think if he had actually been confronted with that scenario in real life he might have ended up feeling different. But the thing is it was coming from a good place. He valued life above all else. Even the life of a rapist's baby. You can disagree with that sentiment, I know I do, but I don't see how you can vilify him over it.

Right. This was just something stupid he said at a corny debate, not something be actually did.

The chick tried to hit him with a “gotcha” (a pretty good one) and he refused to take the L, so he doubled down lol

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 09-15-2025, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/b...-charlie-kirk/

That's Anti-Semitic! Shut it down!

*Vegita-San* · 09-15-2025, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Indeed the “**** your feelings” group has suddenly got all precious about your feelings.

someone threatens your life and your way of living, you get emotional no matter what. you don't? or complain about it happening? inhuman robot.

*Nickokapo* · 09-15-2025, 07:07 PM

The climate is very tense and violent.
Recently, somebody tried to hit President Milei on the temple with a slab of stone aswell...

It is a bit surreal to read something like "OwO" on the high profile news tho.

*Mayhem* · 09-16-2025, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

someone threatens your life and your way of living, you get emotional no matter what. you don't? or complain about it happening? inhuman robot.

Well the “**** your feelings” group back in Trump’s first term were threatening lives and the way of living for many, and didn’t care if they got emotional as a result. And now they care? Screw em.

*Mayhem* · 09-16-2025, 02:08 AM

Also it’s only free speech if we say is it and we support what you say

KaraiLover09 · 09-16-2025, 05:32 AM

It's a little funny seeing some old guy use 'FAFO'. He probably asked his grandson if he was using it right.

Technically the girl should bring up the law he mentioned, but I know it would fall on deaf ears. I know 'free speech but not freedom of consequences' but he literally signed a law protecting free speech.

Sure, she is still open to consequences like losing friends or maybe a classmate taking a swing at her, but calling the cops on her? For exercising free speech? And she's a minority too? Maybe wait til the heat dies down some and try to sue?

*ToTheNines* · 09-16-2025, 05:49 AM

She was probably detained and released immediately. But this stupid old cuckservative liked the optics of the photo and wanted to do an epic meme.

Clown world.

*Nickokapo* · 09-16-2025, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KaraiLover09

It's a little funny seeing some old guy use 'FAFO'. He probably asked his grandson if he was using it right.

Agreed!It's sorta funny...

*Vegita-San* · 09-16-2025, 09:08 AM

she was free to say it. but doesn't mean it's free of consequence.

*ToTheNines* · 09-16-2025, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

she was free to say it. but doesn't mean it's free of consequence.

First Amendment is supposed to protect your political speech from the government.

*Vegita-San* · 09-16-2025, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

First Amendment is supposed to protect your political speech from the government.

been doing more thinking of this.

reversing my decision on this.

I just get so tired of these people getting away with what they get away with, and we do nothing. What's the solution to deal with these hateful people?

Send them all to muslim country and let them deal with it?

*Vegita-San* · 09-16-2025, 09:46 AM

I also guess we have to make sure our emotions don't get the better of us.

When I first read that pam bondi statement, it sounded correct considering all of the firings that have been going on. I thought it meant a bit more of that.

but seeing the replies, guess I was wrong on that account. hence, reversing the decision.

---

double edit.

after reading more replies, I see where I mucked up. Her statement should have said VIOLENCE speech. as pointed out elsewhere, Hate Speech is where the UK is at right now.

God, I feel stupid.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-16-2025, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

First Amendment is supposed to protect your political speech from the government.

It's not the government. If you say "I'm really glad Charlie Kirk is dead!" that's fine, but that doesn't mean your boss should be forced to continue paying you.

*ToTheNines* · 09-16-2025, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It's not the government. If you say "I'm really glad Charlie Kirk is dead!" that's fine, but that doesn't mean your boss should be forced to continue paying you.

That’s not what I’m saying at all. The girl in the picture is being carried off in handcuffs. That is the government.

I think you’re a bitch if you go tattle on someone for their internet antics. But what the employers do with that information is entirely up to them. That’s their business and they have to protect the bottom line as they see fit.

EXCEPT… that charlatan Elon used to pretend he would foot the bill of any legal battle anyone got in for being fired over their tweets, in the name of free speech. Not surprised to see he was lying for clout.

*sdp* · 09-16-2025, 10:06 AM

Cancel culture is ok when I agree with it.

*Vegita-San* · 09-16-2025, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

EXCEPT… that charlatan Elon used to pretend he would foot the bill of any legal battle anyone got in for being fired over their tweets, in the name of free speech. Not surprised to see he was lying for clout.

well, he DID back Gina Corano. but, knowing Elon, he was probably trying to make her baby mamma number 15.

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Vegita-San Emperor Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,086	I also guess we have to make sure our emotions don't get the better of us. When I first read that pam bondi statement, it sounded correct considering all of the firings that have been going on. I thought it meant a bit more of that. but seeing the replies, guess I was wrong on that account. hence, reversing the decision. --- double edit. after reading more replies, I see where I mucked up. Her statement should have said VIOLENCE speech. as pointed out elsewhere, Hate Speech is where the UK is at right now. God, I feel stupid. __________________ 'Wrong, April. We've Been upgraded to Women hating TROLLS' ?The force is not female, the force is not male, the force is for everyone? Last edited by Vegita-San; 09-16-2025 at 09:53 AM.

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ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,143	https://thegrayzone.com/2025/09/15/b...-charlie-kirk/

09-16-2025, 05:32 AM	#150
KaraiLover09 Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2024 Posts: 48	It's a little funny seeing some old guy use 'FAFO'. He probably asked his grandson if he was using it right. Technically the girl should bring up the law he mentioned, but I know it would fall on deaf ears. I know 'free speech but not freedom of consequences' but he literally signed a law protecting free speech. Sure, she is still open to consequences like losing friends or maybe a classmate taking a swing at her, but calling the cops on her? For exercising free speech? And she's a minority too? Maybe wait til the heat dies down some and try to sue?

09-16-2025, 05:49 AM	#151
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,143	She was probably detained and released immediately. But this stupid old cuckservative liked the optics of the photo and wanted to do an epic meme. Clown world.