The Conflict between the West and Middle East - Page 9

*ToTheNines* · 04-24-2026, 03:38 PM

Damn, Andrew. That’s crazy. Don’t mess with Mrs. Modeen lol

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Warmongering never ceases to amaze me but in this case I do think only the most hardcore MAGA crowd are ok with it. It seems to have split their base.

I mean, here’s Trump in 2016 in a legendary rant:

THAT’S what got him elected. I wonder what changed?

**Barkworm** · 04-25-2026, 08:57 AM

You ask that as if there has ever been any authentic ideology behind anything Trump has ever said.

*Prowler* · 04-25-2026, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

You ask that as if there has ever been any authentic ideology behind anything Trump has ever said.

Which is why I'm confused about Trump supporters. What do they even believe in?

*Mayhem* · 04-25-2026, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Which is why I'm confused about Trump supporters. What do they even believe in?

Whatever the last thing he rambled on about.

member_removed · 04-25-2026, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Which is why I'm confused about Trump supporters. What do they even believe in?

Certainly not climate change.

**Barkworm** · 04-30-2026, 12:11 AM

US war in Iran has cost $25 billion so far, says Pentagon official.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 04-30-2026, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

US war in Iran has cost $25 billion so far, says Pentagon official.

What a waste.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 05-03-2026, 08:18 PM

Trump to withdraw 5,000 American troops from Germany after Merz criticises Iran war.

What do you think of this, Barkworm? As crazy as Trump is, I'm all for American troops gettng out of Germany.

I hope we can look forward to a time when the post-ww2 American stronghold over Europe comes to an end.

*Andrew NDB* · 05-03-2026, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I hope we can look forward to a time when the post-ww2 American stronghold over Europe comes to an end.

Stronghold, is that the word we're using for that?

**Barkworm** · 05-04-2026, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Trump to withdraw 5,000 American troops from Germany after Merz criticises Iran war.

What do you think of this, Barkworm? As crazy as Trump is, I'm all for American troops gettng out of Germany.

I think I‘ve said this before, I‘m all for Europe becoming less dependent. This is a good step but there‘s a long way to go.

*Mayhem* · 05-04-2026, 02:00 AM

It also means if the US completely withdraws etc re NATO etc, they won’t be able to fly missions to the middle east from Europe and will have to found bases elsewhere. Like Israel itself.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 05-04-2026, 02:21 AM

I've read that the U.S. is looking to withdraw from NATO because not only are many European countries becoming less friendly towards Israel, but Israel has its sights set upon Turkey as the next major enemy after Iran.

Since Turkey is a NATO member, Israel wouldn't have much luck getting the U.S. to attack them, so it makes sense to encourage them to leave NATO first before the inevitable showdown.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-06-2026, 03:08 PM

Did anyone notice Iran threatening today that they will "continue" working toward a nuclear weapon as long as the US and Israel have them? The operative word there is "continue." As in, they were already doing that and them doing so was not a conspiracy.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-06-2026, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Did anyone notice Iran threatening today that they will "continue" working toward a nuclear weapon as long as the US and Israel have them? The operative word there is "continue." As in, they were already doing that and them doing so was not a conspiracy.

Are you happy with the war's progress?

*Mayhem* · 08-07-2026, 06:31 AM

You can continue if you had something, now have nothing, and are still going.

Hard to say here. Despite Trump saying he's stopped Iran five times now from being able to make one.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-07-2026, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

Are you happy with the war's progress?

Huh? What war?

*ToTheNines* · 08-07-2026, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Did anyone notice Iran threatening today that they will "continue" working toward a nuclear weapon as long as the US and Israel have them? The operative word there is "continue." As in, they were already doing that and them doing so was not a conspiracy.

I didn’t know anyone was disputing this.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-07-2026, 10:13 AM

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Huh? What war?

The war which Trump says he has won like 50 times.

Yet, the Regime is still intact and the Hormuz strait is still closed.

*Andrew NDB* · 08-07-2026, 11:06 AM

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I didn’t know anyone was disputing this.

I've seen pretty regularly people going like, "Israel/Trump SAYS they were developing a nuke, but Iran was in a deal where they couldn't develop one! We should have trusted them! It's Israel planting lies in Trump's ear," etc., etc..

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 08-07-2026, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I've seen pretty regularly people going like, "Israel/Trump SAYS they were developing a nuke, but Iran was in a deal where they couldn't develop one! We should have trusted them! It's Israel planting lies in Trump's ear," etc., etc..

It's not so much that people trust Iran as much as it is that most of the world doesn't trust USA and Israel anymore.

Trump is also not some gullible fool who was duped by Israel, he 100% knows what he is doing, and most of the American public see that. The Midterms and 2028 are gonna be a disaster for the Republicians.

04-25-2026, 08:57 AM	#162
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,698	You ask that as if there has ever been any authentic ideology behind anything Trump has ever said. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

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Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,698	US war in Iran has cost $25 billion so far, says Pentagon official. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

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Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,068	It also means if the US completely withdraws etc re NATO etc, they won’t be able to fly missions to the middle east from Europe and will have to found bases elsewhere. Like Israel itself. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

08-07-2026, 06:31 AM	#175
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,068	You can continue if you had something, now have nothing, and are still going. Hard to say here. Despite Trump saying he's stopped Iran five times now from being able to make one. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

08-06-2026, 03:08 PM	#173
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,396	Did anyone notice Iran threatening today that they will "continue" working toward a nuclear weapon as long as the US and Israel have them? The operative word there is "continue." As in, they were already doing that and them doing so was not a conspiracy.