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Finally have some free time to continue the script, here's a short sample...with a touch of product placement.
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Awesome sample though Snicker's needs to be capitalized as it's a proper noun. I did like the exchange of "Better?" "Better." as a nod to the famous commercials. Nicely done.
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Leo's quite a jerk in this so far
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Yep, he's got issues...all of which are explained
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My Review on Chapters 1-12
Hey ZariusTwo,
I finished reading Ch. 1-12, and I can see where the T rating is coming from now with the language, alcohol/drug references, and brutal punishments of Bebop and Rocksteady. But it's not bad or anything, just different. So far it seems like it's 90% OT "gone darker in combination with the 1990 TMNT movie" so far from what I've read, but I guess I'll see some other TMNT incarnations soon enough after reading some later reviews I enjoy the multiple story lines here with the buildings being mysteriously destroyed (by the robots apparently), an apparent connection between the photograph of Ms. Ester's teenage relative and a mutated animal along with Bebop who has mutated, the complicated April and Casey relationship, and Leo's insistence to remain "in the shadows." As I pointed out earlier in ff.net, it's a little unusual to see Raphael be more heroic in wanting to stop crime and Leonardo wanting to remain reclusive. Leonardo is much more stoic here, and I'm wondering if he's more Mirage Leonardo here. (I'm vaguely familiar with the comics' versions of the Turtles.) I guess I'm unsure how far, or how long this story is, but so far the Turtles seem to remain "in the shadows" Besides small grammar or very minor word errors, the story looks generally fine. But there's one thing that's lacking a bit, and it's the emotional description of the story. (One example is in my review for Ch. 7 with the motorcycle-car chase scene. It's totally up to you, but adding some "heart racing" descriptions, the fear, the blur of the environment and cars as Casey and April weaved through traffic, the tense anxious muscles of April trying to fight back, etc.). I don't know how much you want to emphasize it, but it can dramatically increase the suspense and can "plant" the reader into the tense situation right there with the character. In your OT novella fanfics, you displayed this when April was explaining how she distanced herself from the Turtles and felt emotionally lost in the sixth book "The Flies That Came To Dinner". It's just a small suggestion of mine, that's all, but doing so could help tug at the emotions of the reader and help relate more to those characters, if it's what you want in this particular fanfic. If there are any particular aspects of the story you want me to keep a heavy eye on (i.e. character development, story suspense/plot, tone of the story, emotional/physical descriptions, pacing, etc.) that you're curious about what a reader may think of it, feel free to tell me and I can give you my small, humble opinion on it. Looking forward to the next segment of chapters. |
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Thanks for all your helpful reviews J, it's appreciated
Yeah, the descriptive portions are lacking in places because I'm working word for word off the script, a lot of the prowse is actually what was in there and I didnt put a lot of time into...well..the parts that required "acting" I think I get a bit better in the descriptions as the book goes on, but I'll leave that for you to judge. Yeah, so far the story is slow, but everything is being pecied together as you suspect, and when we get rolling, it all gets a lot faster. |
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As long as the reviews are helpful to you, then I'm always glad to help.
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New sample. This takes place just before Don and Raph find out about a certain someone's involvment with an incident from earlier in the story
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Awesome sample. Looks like Irma's been kissing Don, hasn't she? I spotted a few mistakes: coffe should be coffee, and tattoes should be tattoos. Other than those little errors, awesome job on this. I can't wait for more.
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Small sample
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Awesome sample, Zar. I loved Raph's last line about Mikey only getting up when the alarm clock goes off. That was funn. Nicely done on this. I'll be eagerly awaiting an update.
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Another short sample from near the end of the film
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Wow. Awesome sample. Loved Mikey's joke about the Mona Lisa. Nicely done as always, Zar.
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My Review on Chapters 13-31
Hmm... where to start.
It seems like these chapters are placing April, Casey, and Gabrielle's love triangle to forefront of the story. I enjoyed how Chapter 13 revealed Casey's backstory with Bishop mocking him, and these chapters (13-31) seems to present how complicated April and Casey's relationship is. One thing that threw me off was in Chapter 13, when April was upset and throws a lamp, and I can understand Casey comforting her, but letting the phone ring after their lives are threatened with both Bishop and Saki's thugs? It's interesting how Gabrielle still has feelings for Casey (could he have feelings for her too?), and Casey's jealousy toward Michelangelo, in which Michelangelo is able to comfort April in a way that Casey can't. I guess the reason I said April, Casey, and Gabrielle seems to be in the forefront is that there hasn't been any heavy Turtle-focused chapters just yet. I mean there's the introduction they make with April and Irma, but the Turtle conversations are usually about fighting (in the present situation) or comedic situations/dialogue, with the exception of Michelangelo interacting with Zach and his friends (which is entertainingly warm and funny scene in Chapter 15.) I'm looking forward still to some brother-to-brother conversations, or Turtle-Splinter conversations to get to know the Turtles better. I'm still interested to see how and why Leonardo is still reclusive to stay in the shadows. What really surprised me, was how Leonardo was willing to fight ("If you two take another step further in this direction, I move in") Raphael rather than asking to speak with Splinter first. The Leonardo in your fanfic is much more obdurate than how he was depicted in the OT, 4Kids, Nick, and movie versions. It's an unusual depiction of Leonardo because usually we (the readers) expect Leonardo to be very disciplined and firm, but still merciful and compassionate. Here he seems unrelentingly authoritative and I'm finding myself supporting Raphael's position. One prominent shining moment in these chapters were the scenes with Splinter (Ch. 20-22), in his characterization (have some emotions beyond the wise stoic teacher), talking with April, and his description of the story about his master Hamato Yoshi and their beginnings. The fighting of Hamato Yoshi had both physical and emotional descriptions that brought the action/fighting scene to life. ...Maybe it was Splinter's narration that gave it that added emotional tone to it. I do enjoy how you are able to add in Michelangelo humor and Raphael's quips in the story to balance out the seriousness of the story (action and suspense) with some comedic relief. A couple of the fighting scenes and a story line did prompt my "analytical side": Hamato Yoshi's behavior with his hand being severed, and Bebop's still being conscious (after Leonardo made a "gash" on him and Raphael stabbing Bebop's arm), Bebop's strength (couldn't rip off the duct tape, but could tear out a street light reinforced by steel and concrete), and the plot hole with Irma (in Chapter 22 she's in the lair but then in Chapter 23, she's gone). The story is evolving to be more complex, but not complicated, and I enjoy that, with Saki now wanting more mutants, the police communication "jammer" being used, Michelangelo's affectionate concern to April, April's house now destroyed, and the love triangle between April, Casey, and Gabrielle. ...I have a feeling later on in the story that I'm going to read about Leonardo finally confronting his brothers, on why he was so resistant to be involved with the humans and be on the surface. Oh, I forgot to add one more thing. Love the hilarious Easter egg moments and references to the other versions of TMNT. Until next time Zarius! Last edited by Refractive Reflections; 07-24-2013 at 06:15 PM. |
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Thanks again for the extensive series of reviews J.
Leonardo's overreactions absolutely do have a storyline purpose to them. I've already given you big clues as to why and a question you asked once plays a big part in why he is how he is, read on to find out. I've put Irma back into Chapter 23, not a big role, I just gave her a c couple of redudnant lines of Aprils'. I needed to go back in and polish that chapter anyway. And the duct tape issue will be brought up in one of the final few chapters as a coy nod to your nit-picky nature, rofl Since there's an action beat every few chapters, and so much is going on with so many characters to deal with, I don't think I've had time for many Turtle-Turtle interactions for most of the story I'm afraid, but there is a choice exchange between Leo and Splinter down the line that I think you'll like. |
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So it's not disappointing or anything if there is few to no Turtle-Turtle interactions. Keep doing your great writing! |
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New sample
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Awesome sample. I really liked it and can't wait for more.
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My Review on Chapters 32-51
First of all, sorry for the delay but you know stuff happens.
Phew...Get ready for this detailed review. 1) I gotta ask was April's journal entry in Chapter 33, supposed to be a nod to the original TMNT movie when April was narrating in the movie when she discussing about each of the Turtles? 2) One thing I enjoyed was the bonding conversations especially with April & Michelangelo, and with Leonardo & Casey. 2a) It was good that you made April ask if Michelangelo explored "heavy stuff", because knowing how comical Michelangelo is (at least how you made him here) it would have appeared to be an awkward relationship between a juvenile, spontaneous fun-loving person with a serious, stubborn journalist without that conversation. 2b) As for Leonardo and Casey, it's a bonding moment I don't think I would have ever thought of before. Usually we're so used to seeing Raphael and Casey bond, but this was refreshingly different in a way. Was that intentional, or were just trying to find a way to reveal Leonardo's backstory here? As I mentioned before, Leo's hindsight narration brings the emotions out and it's an applaudable moment here. So it finally made sense now with why Leonardo was angsty... Spoiler:
3) As for Irma and Donatello, the potential kiss seemed a little rushed here. I guess I should consider the length of the story, but there wasn't a warmth between them like Michelangelo and April had. With Michelangelo and April, there was a serious heartfelt moment during the "heavy stuff" conversation, with Donatello and Irma... 4) I got to say that your twists on the TMNT elements are unexpected... to say the least. Spoiler:
5) The humor is very good. The TMNT references are cleverly subtle, and the humor tone between the characters is properly dry and witty here; some examples: Irma and Donatello's exchange (Ch. 45), the brotherly joking between Raphael and Donatello (Ch. 50). 6) The action scene at Ch. 51 stood out, with its detail, especially with Raphael's anger and language. (I didn't mind the language. Quote:
7) Lastly, before I end, you're writing Splinter remarkably well here with his speech, wisdom, and outlook. One thing that bothered me a bit was that Splinter seemed a bit aloof with Leonardo (Ch. 45), I was expecting more fatherly warmth after Splinter noticed how troubled Leonardo looked (i.e. an embrace or some type of personal encouragement) rather than giving some "teachable deep wisdom." For example in this scene: Quote:
Looks like the story is coming into the home stretch here Zarius! It'll be interesting to see how everything ends. Keep doing your good writing! |
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Maybe Michael Bay should take a look at this script.
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