Official Episode Discussion S4 Ep 8:The War for Dimension X - Page 9

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-02-2016, 10:27 AM

I'm just gonna sit here and cackle like Palpatine while you guys argue and throw things at each other.

*Vicky82* · 02-02-2016, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I have to deal with other's opinions?
You two are constantly defending this show. Thus arguing with people who have different opinions.
Shut the hell up, boi.

I don't always defend this show, there have been a few episodes i've moaned about.

*TigerClaw* · 02-02-2016, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I have to deal with other's opinions?
You two are constantly defending this show. Thus arguing with people who have different opinions.
Shut the hell up, boi.

I'm not arguing, It seems you have issues with whatever is going on here and taking it personal.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 02-02-2016, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I'm not arguing, It seems you have issues with whatever is going on here and taking it personal.

I'm calling out you and Vicky82 for not accepting other's opinions and reaching out to excuse the flaws of this show.

*TigerClaw* · 02-02-2016, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm calling out you and Vicky82 for not accepting other's opinions and reaching out to excuse the flaws of this show.

and I'm calling you out for not respecting other's opinions, you can keep at it, you'll just go around in circles.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-02-2016, 10:37 AM

"Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you."

*TigerClaw* · 02-02-2016, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

"Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you."

Both sides will never be happy, Its why I stay around with all these discussions, it's meaningless.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-02-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Both sides will never be happy, Its why I stay around with all these discussions, it's meaningless.

Sometimes, it's incredibly entertaining.

Also usually a good venue to try out new witticisms.

*Vicky82* · 02-02-2016, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

I'm calling out you and Vicky82 for not accepting other's opinions and reaching out to excuse the flaws of this show.

What about other people who don't accept my opinions, I moaned about certain things and people question me.

So we all go round in circles.

~~Amaranthus~~ · 02-02-2016, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

and I'm calling you out for not respecting other's opinions, you can keep at it, you'll just go around in circles.

I do respect other's opinions. I never once tried to prove someone in this thread wrong.
Please do keep projecting though.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-02-2016, 10:48 AM

Instead of hating on each other, you guys should go back to hating on Mona Lisa and Raphael. It was much more entertaining.

Dance, you puppets! DANCE FOR MY AMUSEMENT!!!

*victory_angel* · 02-02-2016, 10:51 AM

victoryangel asked:
I have noticed some people discussing how the episodes for TMNT are coming across as rushed. I am aware that with a 22 minute episode that there are things that are going to be cut for time, or because they would be seen as too violent for a kids show. Can you walk us through the process of writing an episode for Ninja Turtles?

The standard production script for a 30 minute episode is 25-32 pages long.

Peter Di Cicco:
The writing process is pretty intense because we’re generally working on around five different stories in different stages of drafts, not including the 26+ episodes in various stages of production. But for each episode, the stages are laid out into premise, outline, 1st draft, 2nd draft, and record draft, which is the final version that gets recorded by the actors and given to the storyboard artists to start boarding.
One of the great challenges I personally have as a writer is timing the script so that it will work in under 22 minutes (I think if you account for the main title, we only have 21 minutes of actual show time now). And one thing you have to understand about television (at least, basic cable) is shows have to deliver precisely on time. They can’t be even 30 seconds over or under.
Once we see the show in animatic form, stuff almost always ends up getting cut or rewritten for time. Sometimes it actually helps the pacing, sometimes you just need to lose things. You’d be amazed how much a minute or even just 30 seconds of screen time can be.

*TigerClaw* · 02-02-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by victory_angel

victoryangel asked:
I have noticed some people discussing how the episodes for TMNT are coming across as rushed. I am aware that with a 22 minute episode that there are things that are going to be cut for time, or because they would be seen as too violent for a kids show. Can you walk us through the process of writing an episode for Ninja Turtles?

The standard production script for a 30 minute episode is 25-32 pages long.

Peter Di Cicco:
The writing process is pretty intense because we’re generally working on around five different stories in different stages of drafts, not including the 26+ episodes in various stages of production. But for each episode, the stages are laid out into premise, outline, 1st draft, 2nd draft, and record draft, which is the final version that gets recorded by the actors and given to the storyboard artists to start boarding.
One of the great challenges I personally have as a writer is timing the script so that it will work in under 22 minutes (I think if you account for the main title, we only have 21 minutes of actual show time now). And one thing you have to understand about television (at least, basic cable) is shows have to deliver precisely on time. They can’t be even 30 seconds over or under.
Once we see the show in animatic form, stuff almost always ends up getting cut or rewritten for time. Sometimes it actually helps the pacing, sometimes you just need to lose things. You’d be amazed how much a minute or even just 30 seconds of screen time can be.

That pretty much explains why things feel rushed, they have to somehow cram a story within the 22 minutes of runtime.

*Powder* · 02-02-2016, 12:15 PM

Just like literally every other creative team who works on a cartoon. Is that seriously new/enlightening information to you?

~~Amaranthus~~ · 02-02-2016, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

Just like literally every other creative team who works on a cartoon. Is that seriously new/enlightening information to you?

You should be used to TigerClaw stating the obvious by now.
I'm still recovering from this post he made.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...&postcount=287

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 02-02-2016, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaranthus

You should be used to TigerClaw stating the obvious by now.
I'm still recovering from this post he made.
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...&postcount=287

He does math so you don't have to.

*BabyTurtles* · 02-02-2016, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerClaw

That pretty much explains why things feel rushed, they have to somehow cram a story within the 22 minutes of runtime.

Just because they have to work with only 22 minutes doesn't mean thats an excuse for an episode to feel rushed....I mean every half hour cartoon has to deal with this in some way.

NoName999 · 02-02-2016, 01:48 PM

Here's an idea for the creative team:

Don't try to cram so much stuff

Now where's my paycheck

*MikeandRaph87* · 02-02-2016, 01:57 PM

I was thinking, if Kerma was to ever be used outside of the original cartoon this is the place ro do it.

*CyberCubed* · 02-02-2016, 02:27 PM

I didn't think this episode was rushed at all. It moved at a good pace.

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02-02-2016, 10:27 AM	#161
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I'm just gonna sit here and cackle like Palpatine while you guys argue and throw things at each other. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-02-2016, 10:37 AM	#166
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	"Good! Use your aggressive feelings, boy. Let the hate flow through you." __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-02-2016, 10:48 AM	#171
CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	Instead of hating on each other, you guys should go back to hating on Mona Lisa and Raphael. It was much more entertaining. Dance, you puppets! DANCE FOR MY AMUSEMENT!!! __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

02-02-2016, 10:51 AM	#172
victory_angel Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Ca Posts: 3,108	victoryangel asked: I have noticed some people discussing how the episodes for TMNT are coming across as rushed. I am aware that with a 22 minute episode that there are things that are going to be cut for time, or because they would be seen as too violent for a kids show. Can you walk us through the process of writing an episode for Ninja Turtles? The standard production script for a 30 minute episode is 25-32 pages long. Peter Di Cicco: The writing process is pretty intense because we’re generally working on around five different stories in different stages of drafts, not including the 26+ episodes in various stages of production. But for each episode, the stages are laid out into premise, outline, 1st draft, 2nd draft, and record draft, which is the final version that gets recorded by the actors and given to the storyboard artists to start boarding. One of the great challenges I personally have as a writer is timing the script so that it will work in under 22 minutes (I think if you account for the main title, we only have 21 minutes of actual show time now). And one thing you have to understand about television (at least, basic cable) is shows have to deliver precisely on time. They can’t be even 30 seconds over or under. Once we see the show in animatic form, stuff almost always ends up getting cut or rewritten for time. Sometimes it actually helps the pacing, sometimes you just need to lose things. You’d be amazed how much a minute or even just 30 seconds of screen time can be. __________________ Last edited by victory_angel; 02-02-2016 at 10:57 AM.

02-02-2016, 12:15 PM	#174
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Just like literally every other creative team who works on a cartoon. Is that seriously new/enlightening information to you?

02-02-2016, 01:48 PM	#178
NoName999 Foot Soldier Join Date: May 2014 Location: The Void Posts: 191	Here's an idea for the creative team: Don't try to cram so much stuff Now where's my paycheck __________________

02-02-2016, 01:57 PM	#179
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,186	I was thinking, if Kerma was to ever be used outside of the original cartoon this is the place ro do it. __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon! Last edited by MikeandRaph87; 02-02-2016 at 02:05 PM.

02-02-2016, 02:27 PM	#180
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,688	I didn't think this episode was rushed at all. It moved at a good pace.