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Old 09-07-2023, 11:42 PM   #21
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Summed it up perfectly. Indeed. I don't laugh when they go off with their ridiculous slang and just talk over one another. I want to believe that when the Turtle VA are older, they're going to look back at their interviews for this and the promotions they did and cringe. Alas, I think that would be putting too much hope in Gen Z, and I have none.

The fact that the "teenage" aspect was their go-to selling point just shows their ignorance to authentic TMNT. Rogen played with the toys growing up, that's obvious. But beyond that, his "study" probably ended there.

The film did reasonably well, so maybe with the show we'll get some alright content. After viewing MM thrice, I need to read some Mirage and watch all 3 live action films posthaste.
Surely you don't mean to re-subject yourself to TMNT III? I know Mutant Mayhem was bad, but be reasonable, man! Get a hold of yourself!
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Old 09-08-2023, 02:22 PM   #22
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Surely you don't mean to re-subject yourself to TMNT III? I know Mutant Mayhem was bad, but be reasonable, man! Get a hold of yourself!
I will absolutely be watching TMNT III!
I don't understand why people love hating on TMNT III. I thought maybe it was only casuals, but I've found lots of people here with a negative opinion on III. I have nostaglic connections to the film, so there's that, but I also enjoy the Feudal Japan setting (however inaccurate!) and Michelangelo's character development.

In terms of silliness, I don't think III was any more goofy than SotO, the latter of which saw poor Donatello's bo staff take a severe cut in length.
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Old 09-08-2023, 10:57 PM   #23
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I will absolutely be watching TMNT III!
I don't understand why people love hating on TMNT III. I thought maybe it was only casuals, but I've found lots of people here with a negative opinion on III. I have nostaglic connections to the film, so there's that, but I also enjoy the Feudal Japan setting (however inaccurate!) and Michelangelo's character development.

In terms of silliness, I don't think III was any more goofy than SotO, the latter of which saw poor Donatello's bo staff take a severe cut in length.
Honestly, it's not the worst movie. Dog knows I've seen far worse. But I don't think it's very good overall, and since I got into TMNT from the 2003 show, I just don't have any nostalgia for it. For me, it's just a worse version of the first two movies which had already finished their story with Shredder. It's like the Mummy in that respect; I'd rather just pretend there are only two.

Additionally, Secret of the Ooze feels more like a TMNT movie, even if they did tone down the violence. TMNT III lacks a lot of TMNT stuff. If TMNT III had had Renet and Savanti Romero, I would have been more interested. It honestly feels like a story designed for those two, but they ran out of money, so we got a more generic version of the story.
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Old 09-09-2023, 12:38 AM   #24
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TMNT II threw the monkey wrench into things, by listening to and being overly sensitive to the parent groups at the time. TMNT III had a lot of potential and way more heart than II, actually had them using their weapons but ultimately, sadly was pretty much sh**.
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TMNT II threw the monkey wrench into things, by listening to and being overly sensitive to the parent groups at the time.
Nowadays they tell the parent groups to screw off.
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Old 09-09-2023, 06:24 PM   #26
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TMNT III is one of the best time travel and samurai/ancient Japan themed movies ever made.
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Old 09-10-2023, 03:32 AM   #27
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Nowadays they tell the parent groups to screw off.
If the parent group consists of fundamentalist crazies, I‘m fine with that.

A competent parent knows what they can show their kids anyway.
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Old 09-10-2023, 02:26 PM   #28
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To a point, I can forgive people a bit back then. They were the first generation of parents raising TMNT fans and most probably knew little about it other than "a cartoon and toys my kid is obsessed with." The fundies would inevitably s*** their pants, though the 1990 movie not being kiddie like the cartoon probably caught some parents by surprise if they didn't pay much attention and only responded to their kids begging to see it. They didn't have a whole internet to check reviews on first and find out if it's something they're okay with.

Now anyone today throwing a fit if something isn't kid-friendly enough, screw them. There's an internet packed with details and opinions and, for this franchise, almost 40 years of content that clearly isn't all for kids. (And while most of it is kid-friendly, it deserves the occasional thing that isn't.) If you're the last person on Earth to have any knowledge at all of what the TMNT is and can't bother to check to see if you approve of it for the kids, well that was entirely your own absentminded fault.
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To a point, I can forgive people a bit back then. They were the first generation of parents raising TMNT fans and most probably knew little about it other than "a cartoon and toys my kid is obsessed with." The fundies would inevitably s*** their pants, though the 1990 movie not being kiddie like the cartoon probably caught some parents by surprise if they didn't pay much attention and only responded to their kids begging to see it. They didn't have a whole internet to check reviews on first and find out if it's something they're okay with.
Yeah, I talked about the German dub of the Fred Wolf show before. Parents had every right to be concerned about that. Looking back, the amount of swearing in that dub was ... horrifying.
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Old 09-10-2023, 03:33 PM   #30
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To a point, I can forgive people a bit back then. They were the first generation of parents raising TMNT fans and most probably knew little about it other than "a cartoon and toys my kid is obsessed with." The fundies would inevitably s*** their pants, though the 1990 movie not being kiddie like the cartoon probably caught some parents by surprise if they didn't pay much attention and only responded to their kids begging to see it. They didn't have a whole internet to check reviews on first and find out if it's something they're okay with.

Now anyone today throwing a fit if something isn't kid-friendly enough, screw them. There's an internet packed with details and opinions and, for this franchise, almost 40 years of content that clearly isn't all for kids. (And while most of it is kid-friendly, it deserves the occasional thing that isn't.) If you're the last person on Earth to have any knowledge at all of what the TMNT is and can't bother to check to see if you approve of it for the kids, well that was entirely your own absentminded fault.
I may not have kids, but I'm at least old enough to see it through adult eyes. In an era where 'damn' was still considered a strong swear word to the point the Simpsons were edgy because they let Bart say it.... I can imagine being a parent that let their kids watch the show, buy the toys, buy the videogames, etc, then they take them to the movie theater and the first thing Raph says in the movie (bonus points if Raph happens to be your kid's favorite) is 'DAMN', I'd imagine they'd be like 'THIS IS THE SERIES I'M LETTING MY KIDS WATCH ON TV????'
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Old 09-17-2023, 10:32 PM   #31
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TMNT III had a lot of potential and way more heart than II
Absolutely III had more heart than SotO, which is why I believe Michelangelo naturally received the most character development.

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