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[superstaff]

Originally Posted by 1987

there needs to be a third major political party called “the patriot party” for people that actually care and love their country.

The problem with having another, more popular 'third party' is that there's no guarantee that party wouldn't become corrupted, from the get-go or eventually. One of the major components of politics is politicians and their party getting funded, and thus gaining more visibility to the public. Most of that money is potentially dirty. Politicians are not generally idealists, and those who are rarely get elected (I think someone said this once...was it Carlin?? I don't know, but I remember this coming from somewhere). Another issue is that even if we get another political party to choose from, it's just going to splinter the populace even more. We, as a people, are more fractured and disconnected than ever. And people are not holding their politicians accountable, especially those in their 'team'. This is why power grabs done by the left are allowed by, well, the leftist supporters, and the same goes for the right. "My team can do no wrong" is the mentality that's destroying the country. We should really be demanding better 'service' from our leaders, on BOTH SIDES.

But nah. Best to just to post crap on Twitter, and yammer on about 'those filthy other guys' to get brownie points from the home team. In the meantime, the country continues to spin around the toilet with the many, many problems plaguing this nation (this world, really) getting worse.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yes, we know where you stand on politicians. For me, even if I don't believe or care that they personally do or don't care about me (and I think looking for saviors within politicians is a fallacy as you'd probably agree), it's enough that I believe they do care about very basic things of importance. The value of the nuclear family, protecting kids from indoctrination, the 2nd amendment, and securing the border, for starters. That's enough vs. the other side, who doesn't care about even one of those things and openly so.

Ah, yes. The politicians on the right are totally saving the nuclear family, and 'protecting kids'. They'll singlehandedly bring back true morality to the US! I'm sure they'd never, ever turn if a corporation gave them a huge enough sack of cash. They're the modern day knights of the roundtable who can do no wrong. They also totally fought for the US when the lockdowns and vaccination mandates happened, and went out on a limb to defend all of our rights... Oh, wait. They didn't. Aside from the governor of South Dakota, they all enacted restrictions, and did nothing to combat that stuff, particularly outside their own 'bubble'. Hm. Yeah, true heroes!

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by 1987

I don’t identify as a republican, I thought I was a couple years ago during the 2020 madness, but after seeing all those republicans backstabbing Trump over the J6 setup, I realized republicans are fake puppets just like democrats. I would consider myself conservative though and right leaning. republicans like bush sr and gw bush were in on it, they are for new world order. controlled opposition. not all republicans are evil, but alot of them are, like mitt romney and liz cheney, and pence, etc, working with the corrupt dc establishment. there needs to be a third major political party called “the patriot party” for people that actually care and love their country.

https://i.imgur.com/ULetrWb.jpg

You do realize Trump is buddies with those people, right? The outrage the Lunatic Left has for him is manufactured. And even 3rd party candidates are just looking for power... Politicians all need to learn to respect we the people again.

Bring back tar & feathers.

[superstaff]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

You do realize Trump is buddies with those people, right? The outrage the Lunatic Left has for him is manufactured. And even 3rd party candidates are just looking for power... Politicians all need to learn to respect we the people again.

Bring back tar & feathers.

I remember the pictures from 2021 of that summit Trump attended with Prince Charles, the Queen, Justin Trudeau, Boris Johnson, and, of course, the Clintons and Joe Biden. Yet people always deny that he's buddy-buddy with those types. "Nah! He just goes to those because he has to!!"

Oh, please. He has to go to meet-ups with corrupt politicians, leaders, and royalty? Does he really? Especially since he's not president anymore? You'd think this would ring some alarm bells. If Trump detested the establishment so much then why is he rubbing elbows with, well, the establishment?

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by superstaff

I remember the pictures from 2021 of that summit Trump attended with Prince Charles, the Queen, Justin Trudeau, Boris Johnson, and, of course, the Clintons and Joe Biden. Yet people always deny that he's buddy-buddy with those types. "Nah! He just goes to those because he has to!!"

Oh, please. He has to go to meet-ups with corrupt politicians, leaders, and royalty? Does he really? Especially since he's not president anymore? You'd think this would ring some alarm bells. If Trump detested the establishment so much then why is he rubbing elbows with, well, the establishment?

He is part of the establishment. He locked us down. He fast tracked the poison covid vaxx. He shut down the economy. I will never understand & side with these nutty "Trump will save us" clowns. They're just as bad as Biden apologists.

[1987]

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

You do realize Trump is buddies with those people, right? The outrage the Lunatic Left has for him is manufactured. And even 3rd party candidates are just looking for power... Politicians all need to learn to respect we the people again.

Bring back tar & feathers.

I’ve hear rumors about Trump being in on it, but idk, haven’t seen any real solid proof.

Originally Posted by mrmaczaps

He is part of the establishment. He locked us down. He fast tracked the poison covid vaxx. He shut down the economy. I will never understand & side with these nutty "Trump will save us" clowns. They're just as bad as Biden apologists.

He didn’t lock us down, wasn’t it up to each state? Florida was only locked down for 14 days to slow the spread, since they have a pro-freedom governor. Here in CA we have a communist governor, so there was more lockdowns, restrictions, and forcemasking. Also the leftists having a stronghold on the mainstream media narrative had a lot to do with it.

I get what you’re saying, about his involvement with the vaccines, but you gotta realize he was just one guy going up against the New World Order, who knows, they probably threatened his family or something if he didn’t do their bidding. If anything he made more people wake up to the corruption of the DC establishment, I never really even cared about politics until 2020. If he was part of the establishment why would they still be demonizing him and keep those J6 hearings going to prevent him from running again?

He was never supposed to win, so if anything he threw a wrench into the New World Order plans. The dems didn’t cheat so hard in 2016 cause they though hillary would win, that’s why they went hard with covid lockdowns, racism riots, and mail in voting in 2020, they were desperate to install xiden.

If hillary was installed in 2016, who knows where we’d be at now. It was her turn.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by 1987

Conservatives don’t have time for all that, they are too busy working and they’re taxpayer dollars are being used for leftist agenda programs so that liberals don’t have to work. Yeah, it’s a huge scam. Not sure how much more people gonna put up with this radical leftist agenda, they are really pushing their limits.

You do realise most blue states are net contributors to Government coffers (as in they pay more taxes and revenue than cost the state in benefits etc) whereas most red states are drains on the economy, paying less tax and revenue than paid in benefits. So the blue states actually keep the country going in a way…

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

You do realise most blue states are net contributors to Government coffers (as in they pay more taxes and revenue than cost the state in benefits etc) whereas most red states are drains on the economy, paying less tax and revenue than paid in benefits. So the blue states actually keep the country going in a way…

This is true! In of itself, this metric makes for a great go-to "argument statement" to people who won't otherwise consider why it's like this. It's a good sheep-manipulator. But the real question is how and why wealth is distributed this way and how can the wealth possibly match up to the projected "values" of the wealthy?

Here's a point of consideration to get gears turning - if the "blue rich actors in California" pay so much in taxes, and they champion "social justice" and "social narratives", then why do their social programs need additional funding all the time and why are there so many homeless people in California when all of the money is there?

I could explain it, but I'll let everyone here have their own epiphanies.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Here's a point of consideration to get gears turning - if the "blue rich actors in California" pay so much in taxes, and they champion "social justice" and "social narratives", then why do their social programs need additional funding all the time and why are there so many homeless people in California when all of the money is there?

I could explain it, but I'll let everyone here have their own epiphanies.

Because many of them aren't as rich as you think, and why should it be their responsibility to solely fund all the ills and inequalities in the state? Btw the tax revenues go to the central Government so it's their choice where the money then goes to outwards. I was merely commenting that more goes out of blue states than comes in. Whether some of that needs to increase (California as you note) is another matter for discussion.

As for the homeless, because it's so damn expensive to live in California, knowing a few people who live and work there. Most homeless are singletons, suggesting down and outs, or veterans etc. Although as a percentage of the population, it's a lot closer with some other states.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

Because many of them aren't as rich as you think, and why should it be their responsibility to solely fund all the ills and inequalities in the state? Btw the tax revenues go to the central Government so it's their choice where the money then goes to outwards. I was merely commenting that more goes out of blue states than comes in. Whether some of that needs to increase (California as you note) is another matter for discussion.

As for the homeless, because it's so damn expensive to live in California, knowing a few people who live and work there. Most homeless are singletons, suggesting down and outs, or veterans etc. Although as a percentage of the population, it's a lot closer with some other states.

I think you're missing wh -- ... eh.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I think you're missing wh -- ... eh.

Yyyyup....

[1987]

we are paying higher gas prices now to make sure billionaire warren buffet doesn’t lose money after donating to biden campaign



The Keystone pipeline was cancelled by Biden on first day in office. Warren Buffet owns the railroad that is now transporting all that oil. Warren Buffet donated 58 million to Biden campaign. Warren Buffet would lose billions in transport fees if the pipeline is completed. See how politics works? It is not an environmental issue, it is a money issue.

[Mayhem]

You’ll say fake MSM news, but the cancellation of the pipeline has been shown to have had no effect on the price of gas at the pump.

[mrmaczaps]

How do you know you've had to much koolaid:

Originally Posted by Mayhem

You’ll say fake MSM news, but the cancellation of the pipeline has been shown to have had no effect on the price of gas at the pump.

[Mayhem]

We don’t get Koolaid here, pedo Hitler ****er, try again. Hey, see I can sling the random insults out too. Just keep living in your echo chamber…

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Mayhem

We don’t get Koolaid here

Jesus, no wonder you people are so crochety and uptight. You've never had a giant pitcher-man smash through your living room wall and pour ultra-sweetened fruit drink out of his head.

It's jarring the first time but you get used to it. Turns out there's a whole separate insurance form and everything but the government takes care of most of it. If you get two "visits" from Kool-Aid Man in one year, they actually give YOU money for being such a good sport about it.

It's fun, it's like a more-destructive and fruity-flavored Christmas morning. You guys are deprived over there.

[CyberCubed]

It's times like this I'm glad I haven't drove a car since 2006, which is like 15+ years ago now. Goddamn. I can't imagine paying for gas and car insurance nowadays. I can't stand the metrocards as is.

[Mayhem]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Jesus, no wonder you people are so crochety and uptight. You've never had a giant pitcher-man smash through your living room wall and pour ultra-sweetened fruit drink out of his head.

It's jarring the first time but you get used to it. Turns out there's a whole separate insurance form and everything but the government takes care of most of it. If you get two "visits" from Kool-Aid Man in one year, they actually give YOU money for being such a good sport about it.

It's fun, it's like a more-destructive and fruity-flavored Christmas morning. You guys are deprived over there.

I've drunk Koolaid when I've been in the US, definitely, but it's been years now. I'm not aware of it being sold in the UK at all, except maybe in specialist US import sections in stores (an excellent place to find stupidly sugary Pop Tarts)

[1987]

US exporting over 5 million barrels of oil to Europe and Asia last month from US oil reserves despite record high gas prices

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...gh-gas-prices/

LoL tHe PrEsIdEnT dOeSn’T cOnTrOl ThE gAs PrIcEs LoL

it’s Trump’s fault
it’s Putin’s fault
it’s China’s fault
it’s the oil companies’s fault
it SCOTUS’s fault
it’s the unvaccinated’s fault

it’s anyone’s fault BUT Biden’s

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by 1987

US exporting over 5 million barrels of oil to Europe and Asia last month from US oil reserves despite record high gas prices

Lately it feels like the current administration care more about any other country except our own.

[mrmaczaps]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Lately it feels like the current administration care more about any other country except our own.

Because they're trying to kill us all... or enslave us. Duh.